There's always a level of human error. No card is exactly the same and it's difficult to assign a grade to a card with so many different variables; surface, centering, corners, edges, print clarity, etc. PSA has graded millions of cards, millions. The consistency as a whole is pretty rock solid, but you can always find instances of the contrary.
To answer your question, grading is not a perfect science. Like any other service oriented business, there are some grading companies (as well as some individual graders) who do it better than others.
PSA is as solid as they come in terms of consistency. They also provide highest card value in most cases.
However, I think I speak for all on this form when I say we've all witnessed a few cards that "raise eye brows".
Most cards are easy to grade consistently, and most people who know the issue will agree with the grade. Some cards are on the edge of one grade up or down. They can go either way based on the grader's personal opinion on the significance of certain qualities which are hard to measure and hard for everyone to agree on how they should impact the grade. You'll then have more people in disagreement with the grade. The majority of disagreement will come from people who aren't very familiar with the issue and its peculiarities.
I have sent the same card in to PSA after removing it from it's holder on several occasions, sometimes it comes back with the same grade and sometimes not.
Good luck!
Joe
2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
You can send the same card in 5 times, likely get 5 different graders, and more than likely get 3 different grades from those 5 graders. Meaning a couple will agree. Good/bad who knows. Not sure whether to categorize that as consistent, inconsistent or "here boys, throw a dart at a number on the board concerning that card and that's the grade we give it". But, PSA knows what they are doing. They manipulate the market well with the registry, know which cards to keep hot and not. Know which cards to make hot and not. Some smart folks in the upper offices who pull the strings on the puppets
You can send the same card in 5 times, likely get 5 different graders, and more than likely get 3 different grades from those 5 graders.
The only reason you're sending a particular card in 5 times is because you think the card should be in a higher grade holder. Your other cards are all in holders you're okay with so you're not sending those in 5 times. You're more likely to toggle between only 2 grades than 3, but then again with the card being popped out and handled so many times, maybe some of the inconsistent grading is due to the card wearing away from all the handling. It's your card so you won't see theses defects, but the graders will.
The more graded card I buy the more faith I have in the consistency of graded cards. I'm on ebay everyday and I see very few cards that make me go "wow, that one sucks".
<< <i>You can send the same card in 5 times, likely get 5 different graders, and more than likely get 3 different grades from those 5 graders.
The only reason you're sending a particular card in 5 times is because you think the card should be in a higher grade holder. Your other cards are all in holders you're okay with so you're not sending those in 5 times. You're more likely to toggle between only 2 grades than 3, but then again with the card being popped out and handled so many times, maybe some of the inconsistent grading is due to the card wearing away from all the handling. It's your card so you won't see theses defects, but the graders will. >>
Had a 50 or so card submission pop a few months ago. None of the cards were off-center more than 60/40. Got 5 or 6 that were rejected as "miscut". Took the cars and checked them against other cards and one was oversize. Sent the rest in as they looked OK and they all got grades 7's and 8's if I remember.
This bothered me, and still does. How can this happen?
PSA is the best TPG company there is, but they are not always right, sometimes they aren't even close. If the grade does not fit go ahead and resubmit.
Good luck, PSA will give you the best results and return on your dollar when selling as far as I am concerned.
2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
<< <i>Today's episode of Rational Thinking is entitled "When frugal is foolish". >>
Today's episode of Maurice showing his ignorance is entitled "My incessant proclivity to stick quotation marks inside of periods, and I'm not even British."
Fixed it for you. You're welcome, amigo. Perhaps if you spent less time trying to defame PWCC and read your little Strunk book more often, you'd actually be as smart as you proclaim to be.
I think PSA's consistency with sports cards is miles ahead compared to other more obscure issues. Let's face it, they can't be experts on the minutiae of every card issue. My own issue of focus, Wacky Packages, has several aspects that just don't come up with sports cards. As shown below, the card contains a copyright line, and how it is factored into judging the centering absolutely varies from grader to grader and submission to submission. So that is inconsistent and frustrating.
Go read your grammar book, actually learn something and you'll feel much better.
Promise. >>
Or perhaps I could just ship some cards to slobetz.
>>
That's similar to a lot of the hockey OPC stickers I've had graded from the late 80's. The sticker number appears on the front under the photo like the copyright does in your card. I called PSA to discuss and was told that when figuring in centering they went by the bottom of the # not the picture. That's why I didn't think this had a shot at a 10 when I sent it in so who knows.
<< <i>Today's episode of Rational Thinking is entitled "When frugal is foolish". >>
Today's episode of Maurice showing his ignorance is entitled "My incessant proclivity to stick quotation marks inside of periods, and I'm not even British."
Fixed it for you. You're welcome, amigo. Perhaps if you spent less time trying to defame PWCC and read your little Strunk book more often, you'd actually be as smart as you proclaim to be. >>
Either way I have ZERO faith in consistent grading, it doesnt exist.
That's similar to a lot of the hockey OPC stickers I've had graded from the late 80's. The sticker number appears on the front under the photo like the copyright does in your card. I called PSA to discuss and was told that when figuring in centering they went by the bottom of the # not the picture. That's why I didn't think this had a shot at a 10 when I sent it in so who knows.
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That is similar. I can prove from the uncut sheet that the copyright should be regarded as part of the image in figuring centering, but many of the graders don't seem to see it that way.
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To answer your question, grading is not a perfect science. Like any other service oriented business, there are some grading companies (as well as some individual graders) who do it better than others.
PSA is as solid as they come in terms of consistency. They also provide highest card value in most cases.
However, I think I speak for all on this form when I say we've all witnessed a few cards that "raise eye brows".
i asked the kind old lady next door what she thought of my card and she said there's not a darn thing wrong with it, perfect.
didn't cost me a dime.
Jason and Dave hit it on the head. Overall, I believe PSA is as consistent as can be expected.
Btw, no one told me about charging for my opinion. Damn, no wonder I have over 10k PM's.
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And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
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<< <i>a grade is an opinion. what's astounding is that we willingly pay for opinions.
i asked the kind old lady next door what she thought of my card and she said there's not a darn thing wrong with it, perfect.
didn't cost me a dime. >>
Today's episode of Rational Thinking is entitled "When frugal is foolish".
I have sent the same card in to PSA after removing it from it's holder on several occasions, sometimes it comes back with the same grade and sometimes not.
Good luck!
Joe
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<< <i>a grade is an opinion. what's astounding is that we willingly pay for opinions.
i asked the kind old lady next door what she thought of my card and she said there's not a darn thing wrong with it, perfect.
didn't cost me a dime. >>
Today's episode of Rational Thinking is entitled "When frugal is foolish". >>
yeah, well just imagine how foolish i'm gonna feel when she asks for due compensation for being correct.
Not sure whether to categorize that as consistent, inconsistent or "here boys, throw a dart at a number on the board concerning that card and that's the grade we give it". But, PSA knows what they are doing. They manipulate the market well with the registry, know which cards to keep hot and not. Know which cards to make hot and not. Some smart folks in the upper offices who pull the strings on the puppets
<< <i>a grade is an opinion. what's astounding is that we willingly pay for opinions.
i asked the kind old lady next door what she thought of my card and she said there's not a darn thing wrong with it, perfect.
didn't cost me a dime. >>
You should check with the lady next door to see if she knows what the guy across the street knows about possible future eBay rate increases.
I thought he retired on all the extra eBay fees he made.
besides, i tried to ask some dude on roller blades about my card, but he was going too fast and i crapped out at the corner.
The only reason you're sending a particular card in 5 times is because you think the card should be in a higher grade holder. Your other cards are all in holders you're okay with so you're not sending those in 5 times. You're more likely to toggle between only 2 grades than 3, but then again with the card being popped out and handled so many times, maybe some of the inconsistent grading is due to the card wearing away from all the handling. It's your card so you won't see theses defects, but the graders will.
<< <i>You can send the same card in 5 times, likely get 5 different graders, and more than likely get 3 different grades from those 5 graders.
The only reason you're sending a particular card in 5 times is because you think the card should be in a higher grade holder. Your other cards are all in holders you're okay with so you're not sending those in 5 times. You're more likely to toggle between only 2 grades than 3, but then again with the card being popped out and handled so many times, maybe some of the inconsistent grading is due to the card wearing away from all the handling. It's your card so you won't see theses defects, but the graders will. >>
Had a 50 or so card submission pop a few months ago. None of the cards were off-center more than 60/40. Got 5 or 6 that were rejected as "miscut". Took the cars and checked them against other cards and one was oversize. Sent the rest in as they looked OK and they all got grades 7's and 8's if I remember.
This bothered me, and still does. How can this happen?
PSA is the best TPG company there is, but they are not always right, sometimes they aren't even close. If the grade does not fit go ahead and resubmit.
Good luck, PSA will give you the best results and return on your dollar when selling as far as I am concerned.
<< <i>Today's episode of Rational Thinking is entitled "When frugal is foolish". >>
Today's episode of Maurice showing his ignorance is entitled "My incessant proclivity to stick quotation marks inside of periods, and I'm not even British."
Fixed it for you. You're welcome, amigo. Perhaps if you spent less time trying to defame PWCC and read your little Strunk book more often, you'd actually be as smart as you proclaim to be.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
<< <i>I feel nauseated again. >>
Go read your grammar book, actually learn something and you'll feel much better.
Promise.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
As shown below, the card contains a copyright line, and how it is factored into judging the centering absolutely varies from grader to grader and submission to submission. So that is inconsistent and frustrating.
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<< <i>I feel nauseated again. >>
Go read your grammar book, actually learn something and you'll feel much better.
Promise.
Or perhaps I could just ship some cards to slobetz.
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<< <i>I feel nauseated again. >>
Go read your grammar book, actually learn something and you'll feel much better.
Promise.
Or perhaps I could just ship some cards to slobetz.
That's similar to a lot of the hockey OPC stickers I've had graded from the late 80's. The sticker number appears on the front under the photo like the copyright does in your card. I called PSA to discuss and was told that when figuring in centering they went by the bottom of the # not the picture. That's why I didn't think this had a shot at a 10 when I sent it in so who knows.
<< <i>
<< <i>Today's episode of Rational Thinking is entitled "When frugal is foolish". >>
Today's episode of Maurice showing his ignorance is entitled "My incessant proclivity to stick quotation marks inside of periods, and I'm not even British."
Fixed it for you. You're welcome, amigo. Perhaps if you spent less time trying to defame PWCC and read your little Strunk book more often, you'd actually be as smart as you proclaim to be. >>
Either way I have ZERO faith in consistent grading, it doesnt exist.
<< <i>
That's similar to a lot of the hockey OPC stickers I've had graded from the late 80's. The sticker number appears on the front under the photo like the copyright does in your card. I called PSA to discuss and was told that when figuring in centering they went by the bottom of the # not the picture. That's why I didn't think this had a shot at a 10 when I sent it in so who knows.
That is similar. I can prove from the uncut sheet that the copyright should be regarded as part of the image in figuring centering, but many of the graders don't seem to see it that way.