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Another bogus 01-S Quarter on the bay? NGC AU58 this time - I doubt it -
SAM5969
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Looks like another bogus 01-S Quarter to me - Whatever the public says I am curious:
Link to 1901-S NGC 58
NGC Cert Verify
Price is within a couple hundred of NGC Price guide .. Hey no returns and a very unprofessional write up ..
Also, he says he had the coin for 33 years .. I say not in that holder he didn't ...
Link to 1901-S NGC 58
NGC Cert Verify
Price is within a couple hundred of NGC Price guide .. Hey no returns and a very unprofessional write up ..
Also, he says he had the coin for 33 years .. I say not in that holder he didn't ...
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looks like it may be legit?
other nice items avail.
sold some prosthetic eyes
can't be all bad huh?
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<< <i>Looks ok to me. If anybody can prove different,it will be the first NGC counterfeit slab I've seen. If anyone knows of one, please provide link, as I have been actively looking. Thanks BruceS >>
i've seen quite a few. they are out there. been several posted on this forum too.
should be a few in my thread
i have many more to add. just need to update.
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<< <i>Bad link? >>
i accidentally cut off the last digit for the link. fixed now.
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It's much too elongated. Otherwise, it's a darn good fake. Just yesterday I mentioned ( ATS )
that I hadn't seen any fake coins in NGC slabs...
The coin sold at below the original ask price... Too bad we didn't catch it before it sold.
A word to the wise, the seller should be blocked by eBay if he's pulling that crap. No Refunds
is a red flag... I feel sorry for the poor soul who thought they got a great coin on the cheap !
No free lunches in Numismatics !!
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<< <i>should be a few in my thread >>
added pics of 2 ngc counterfeit slabs.
another one in this thread
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I pulled up the original listing and did notice the mintmark seemed a bit not right: you could be on to something.
I emailed the guy and told him if he had a legit sale, he let it go to cheap. I told him I would pay 40k for it if legit and would go down and get it. see what happens
jim
<< <i>The NGCs price guide shows it at $34K. So I don't understand why it's "to good to be true". It's right in line as to actual value. And someone that is spending that kind of money is surely educated enough to spot a fake. I myself don't know enough about this series to venture an opinion. >>
It's too good to be true because you don't understand the actual value of the date,
primarily because its not your series. And take my word for it, the OBV of this fake
would easily fool more seasoned professional graders than I. It's a dead match for
Obverse A. The mint mark gave it away. High end fakes are extremely difficult to pass.
Most fake 01-S's are lower in grade and the details more worn away. Not all collectors who
are able to spend that sort of money are educated enough to spot a fake.
If the coin were 100% legit, as Jim Dimmick mentioned, an offer of $40,000 from a dealer
is perfectly in line. I spotted one of the nicest 01-S's in PCGS 55 at Pittsburgh a while back
and offered the guy $50K which he promptly turned down.
These are troubling times where a great looking fake coin can be in a great looking fake holder.
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What's up with the copy n paste essay? No returns either, good luck to the buyer.
<< <i>The listing itself would have made me not even consider buying. Any time I see a screenful of crap in the description and almost nothing about the coin itself, combined with crappy photos and no return policy, I hit the back button and move on. >>
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
<< <i>The listing itself would have made me not even consider buying. Any time I see a screenful of crap in the description and almost nothing about the coin itself, combined with crappy photos and no return policy, I hit the back button and move on. >>
Ebay over-encourages sellers to list as much information as possible about items, so that in itself should not make someone "not even consider" buying. It may indicate a possible bargain from a seller not having an expert coin background.
<< <i>I would like to know if it does turn out to be legit, who's the forum member who bought it, and if vern or walt or other, are they going to be selling their other one???? >>
I purchased the item. I do believe that the coin is in fact real. I have also verified the sellers identity and they are a well respected professional in their field.
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<< <i>It will likely be kept.
Sell it when you retire for a nice profit, eh? Haha, make sure you also give us some real high quality photos of it. Professional quality. >>
oh my yes. that would be appreciated. and congratz on your wonderful purchase.
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JimD - PM sent.
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Paesan
<< <i>Based on the e-mail I got back and looking at the coin again, I do still believe the buyer (zas107) got a deal, congrats, took some nerve, but I believe you will come out a winner on this deal >>
I am thrilled for the buyer - and I had not seen the coin before it actually sold.
As Paesan mentioned, we all would like to see the images and I apologize to the
buyer if the OP put the fear of God into him.
As I mentioned earlier, I had not seen another fake NGC slab with a counterfeit coin.
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The original post wasn't to put the fear of God into anyone - It was suspicion of potential trouble based on a writeup that appeared to come from a kid. Since another confirmed fake was on eBay only days earlier, it seemed rather coincidental ... The purpose was to seek opinions from resident experts.. And clearly others had their suspicions .. I am very happy to see all is well that ends well and this will ultimately be confirmed in due time .. Congrats and good luck to the new owner!
<< <i> However, the shape of the S Mint Mark is wrong. It's much too elongated. Otherwise, it's a darn good fake. Just yesterday I mentioned ( ATS ) that I hadn't seen any fake coins in NGC slabs... The coin sold at below the original ask price... Too bad we didn't catch it before it sold. A word to the wise, the seller should be blocked by eBay if he's pulling that crap. No Refunds is a red flag... I feel sorry for the poor soul who thought they got a great coin on the cheap ! No free lunches in Numismatics !! >>
Heck some even said the mint mark was all wrong to which other(s) agreed ... When the post was written it wasn't sold yet so it could have helped prevent an issue had it turned out to be no good.
But I do like the look of the surfaces of this 01-s.
Hope all works out for the buyer....looks like he got a very good deal. You don't get many opportunities at AU 1901-s quarters.
Dave
popcorn we need popcorn!
Look forward to the pics.
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
<< <i>I picked up the coin earlier today. I will post photos in a few days or less. >>
or more?
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<< <i>I don't think that guy comes here anymore. >>
the buyer = Last Visited On: March 27th, 2014 7:52 PM
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Erik
<< <i>...I say full disclosure is do...but who the heck am I
Erik >>
do you mean due? the context really throoo my mind for a loop with "do."
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<< <i>...I say full disclosure is do...but who the heck am I
Erik >>
do you mean due? the context really throoo my mind for a loop with "do."
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...what it do son? Just like we say in Oakland
lol, you got me,
Erik
Now a year later, at least I am happy to be an owner of a PCGS 53. This is a date in which I always wanted to own a nice one. I remember seeing a xf-45 for sale at DLRC for 7500 years ago. If it would have been 500 bucks I couldn't have bought it then.
<< <i>I bet it was fake and he doesn't want to tell us. >>
It was absolutely genuine.
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<< <i>I bet it was fake and he doesn't want to tell us. >>
It was absolutely genuine.
....and Tuesday August 06, 2013 4:52 PM
"I picked up the coin earlier today. I will post photos in a few days or less."