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Noob Question(s) About PSA

There's a handful of cards I have in my collection I'd wish to send in and get graded. Is having the PSA's Collectors Club membership thing worth it? Or, would it just be a waste of $100 bucks? I also noticed on the forms you have to fill out, it asks the value of the card? Without doing too much research (sorry for my laziness), how do I figure this out? Do I go by their own website's value of worth? Or, is it some guesstimate?

As always, thanks for helping me out everyone. If you have any other tips/pointers for a first-time submitter, it'd be much appreciated.

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  • MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭
    I'm not a PSA member but I do occasionally send cards to Beckett. I think it would be worth the 100 dollar membership fee if you frequently send cards in to be graded.
    As for the value goes, you can do a few things. You can look at the Beckett raw card value and use that or you can estimate what you think the card would grade and put the value of the graded card down, or you can be honest and just put the price you paid for the card as that was the value when you bought it.
    Just a few suggestions.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    With the collectors club sign up fee you get 6 cards graded under the $110 price point and 15 under the $189.

    The general turn around time on the voucher is 7 business days and allows for cards up to a $500 value.

    For example if you have a card that has a Beckett high book value of $250 in NM-MT condition but sells for $600 if graded a PSA 8 it can still be sent in and graded. The value you put down is for insurance purposes.

    I personally use a value that is closer to the expected graded value in the event the cards are lost becuase if so you would take a much larger loss if you just use the raw value. So in the example above I might use $425 and split the difference. Quite frankly it just depends on what you have in the card and what you would be willing to take for it should it get lost.

    I think the sign up fee is a bargain personally as I enjoy recieving the SMR and the ability to submit cards throughout the year. If you compare the turn around times and the maxmimum value range to the actuall submission fees the membership practically pays for itself.

    In terms of how to determine value I would suggest going to EBAY and viewing completed auctions. That is the best real time gauge of value you can find.

    If you have enough cards I would go for the $189 membership so you can get 15 vouchers and send them all in at the same time.
  • Thanks for the response, dpeck. I, personally, don't have a whole lot as I'm trying to rebuild my collection again, but the cards handed down from my father's stash are quite impressive. A lot of 1959 Topps stuff. I'd just like to get them graded as it could help the value of them in the long run.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One final note. All cards must be sent in Card Savers and when you get your voucher in the mail PSA provides those.

    I personally place all cards that could even be considered for grading in them and so I always have them on hand but many do not and you don't need to go buy a 100 count pack to get started.

    Good luck which ever route you choose.
  • Baez578Baez578 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭
    Like dpeck stated, check card values on eBay. It's important to get a good idea as to what you cards are worth.

    Sometimes, depending on the card, it might not be worth the price of submission unless it has some sort of sentimental value to you.
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I also noticed on the forms you have to fill out, it asks the value of the card? Without doing too much research (sorry for my laziness), how do I figure this out? Do I go by their own website's value of worth? Or, is it some guesstimate?

    As always, thanks for helping me out everyone. If you have any other tips/pointers for a first-time submitter, it'd be much appreciated. >>



    Great question and one I've wondered about as I am getting ready to submit some cards for the first time.

    Dpeck, do you use Card Saver Is or IIs?
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They provide Card Saver I's I believe.

    The only card shop that is still open near Orlando sells the 100 pack count made by Ultra Pro.

    They look like this.



    Ultra Pro


  • lahmejoonlahmejoon Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭
    Another question from someone who has never submitted - is the general consensus to avoid using penny sleeves in conjunction with the CS I?
  • Yes, use a penny sleeve.
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They provide Card Saver I's I believe.

    The only card shop that is still open near Orlando sells the 100 pack count made by Ultra Pro.

    They look like this.



    Ultra Pro >>



    Great! Thanks!
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't use penny sleeves. Perhaps you should but I have never had a problem.

    When I first started getting cards graded it was only Wrestling All Stars and they are to large for a standard penny sleeve.

  • With regards to submissions, PSA recommends a sleeve:

    http://www.psacard.com/Submissions/ShipGuide

    On a separate note, I strongly recommend following step 6 to a tee. I did on my first sub; it cost me quite a bit more as I had to ship two seperate boxes but both my subs popped well within the
    committed time frame.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Another question from someone who has never submitted - is the general consensus to avoid using penny sleeves in conjunction with the CS I? >>



    I use penny sleeves with the cards I sub, typically 70s baseball. It's another layer of protection and fwiw, I have found my grades to be a bit higher on average using them as opposed to not, when I stopped using them for a while. Certainly can't hurt.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    What's the reasoning behind this in Step 5 "Do not use clear, vinyl tape if shipping USPS."? Is this to prevent tampering?
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most likely.

    You could never open the box of one of my submissions without noticing. I use a stupid amount of clear tape on every inch of the box.

    If you are sending in a stack of card savers I would also cut card board and create a sandwich and then wrap it heavily in bubble wrap. Limit each stack to 30 cards or so.

    I take every precaution possible to ensure the cards are safe.

  • Just an fyi -- I decided to go ahead and sign up for it this morning. Now I just have to wait for them to send me my "introductory" setup and then to figure out which group of cards I want to send in for my first grading session.
  • I think signing up as a member is great if you're going to be submitting a bit as they have submission specials every month
  • BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What's the reasoning behind this in Step 5 "Do not use clear, vinyl tape if shipping USPS."? Is this to prevent tampering? >>



    I was told not to use the clear, vinyl tape a few years back by a postal worker. At that time, the reasoning had something to do with their stamps (fragile, registered, priority, whatever it was) and the ink would just rub right off the clear tape.

    shawn
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't use penny sleeves. Perhaps you should but I have never had a problem. >>



    For modern cards I use penny sleeves because it seems to help protect the gloss, but with older cards it's almost better not to use them. Sometimes they can cause chipping on the bottom of the card if you don't put them in carefully.
  • lahmejoonlahmejoon Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I don't use penny sleeves. Perhaps you should but I have never had a problem. >>



    For modern cards I use penny sleeves because it seems to help protect the gloss, but with older cards it's almost better not to use them. Sometimes they can cause chipping on the bottom of the card if you don't put them in carefully. >>



    That's the problem I worry about. I have not submitted anything yet, but when I do, catching a corner on the sleeve scares me. I think someone on here said that they slice a tiny piece off one of the corners of the sleeves before loading the card.
  • One last question -- According to the packaging FAQ on PSA's website, it states: "Include a copy of your submission form and payment for the service" Why can't they just charge your credit card? How do you include payment for the service? Just leave a check in the box? I'm a bit confused by this aspect. Thanks for the answer(s).
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    On the submission form there is a spot for your credit card number. If you use a credit card you must sign twice on the forms.

  • ssollarsssollars Posts: 933 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What's the reasoning behind this in Step 5 "Do not use clear, vinyl tape if shipping USPS."? Is this to prevent tampering? >>



    Yes, and it is also a USPS requirement for registered mail for the same reason. I don't know if PSA still suggests using registered mail or not (they used to) but since PSA stopped using registered for most of their return shipping (except on large $$ subs) I don't use it anymore to ship to them either. I've used clear tape for the last couple years with no issues from PSA or the USPS.

    Scott
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