Way old school holder - Ever seen one of these?

39Special

Got this in an auction last year. I think these were done in the 1980's, it's kind of reminiscent of some of those old ANACS photo holders and PCI photo holders (I think was slabbed in between those two). The coin is excellent, easily an MS65 if not higher. Note how the coin has toned on the reverse only in those areas facing the paper inserts. I'll bet this coin was white when it went in there. I really like the toning myself.

lcoopie

funny that the ob didn't tone nearest the insert

ricko

i have seen those, at coin shows in Seattle...but not very common. Cheers, RickO

devious

<< <i>funny that the ob didn't tone nearest the insert >>



I see a little bit of tarnish on the obverse closest to the insert just as the reverse, just does not appear as prominent.

Wabbit2313

Yes, I have owned 2 of them, both Peace dollars. Overgraded by 2 to 3 points.

grote15

This was a precursor the ACG slab correct?

39Special

Yep. I've only seen one other one at auction like this, pretty nice Large Cent (didn't get it though).

BustHalfBrian

I've seen them in cases at shows, but dealers were asking a premium for the holder... which I was not willing to pay.

greghansen

That's very cool. Seen several slabs similar but not sure if I've ever seen one exactly like that. It is a very nice coin and obviously hasn't been hurt being in that slab for 30 years or so. I definately would NOT bust it out to see what the current TPG think of it. I think the coin speaks for itself and is worth more to a knowledgable buyer where it is.

erwindoc

I like it as it tells you what the graders thought about it. It would have been nice to have similar scoring on my "failed" submissions, so I could learn what I had missed.

astrorat

I like the old Accugrade photoslabs. The "Accugrade-42" version is not very common. Accugrade's grading was "novel" in that it "coded" the numeric grade. I have never quite figured out what is meant by "commercial grade." Then again, I don't recall seeing a Morgan or Peace dollar in one of these holders that did not have a "c" after the numeric grade.

sawyerjosh

MS64 at best with that cheek.

halfhunter

<< <i>MS64 at best with that cheek. >>



Dang . . . Shows how little I know about this modern grading stuff . . .
I thought the cheek looked pretty good for a 65 with minimal chatter.

After I retire & have some time, I'm going to those ANA grading classes ! ! !

HH

39Special

The marks on the cheek are superficial, not gouges, and the fields are MS65 quality (I've owned MS66's from PCGS so have an idea). The reverse is top notch; I've louped that eagle a few times and not only is it completely struck, it's completely mark free. At any rate, it stays in this holder, and it's an attractive coin that's not going anywhere, so no worries!

robertpr

I could be wrong, but I think I remember the consensus on the boards many years ago was that the coins in these type slabs were pretty conservatively graded.

coinbuf

Yep not very common anymore, I have one laying around somewhere.

magikbilly

Hi

Very, very neat holder - haven't seen one in ages. Coin 64+ max IMHO. The reverses are often 65 or so as you know, but that cheek I think prevents a 65. Today

Eric

WTCG

Those are the earlier generation Accugrade holders. Surprisingly they tend to be consistent.

LochNESS

Pretty cool stuff. The early beginnings of modern grading. Almost like if someone had the first Sheldon Scale-graded large copper.

astrorat

<< <i>Those are the earlier generation Accugrade holders. Surprisingly they tend to be consistent. >>

Ironically, when Coin World did their "secret" testing of grading companies, Accugrade was THE most consistent of all of the companies tested (which included PCGS, NGC, ANACS and ICG). Accugrade had the best precision (i.e. reproducibility or consistency), but not the best accuracy according to the article. Then again, accuracy depends on an accepted "target" as being the true grade ... in other words, a standard. Since there is no agreed upon standard in grading, one could argue that "accuracy" is not as relevant as precision.

Justlooking

I wouldn't be shocked to see it in a 65 holder. Kinda hard to tell the difference between minor scuffs and deeper marks from the photo.

kranky

<< <i>I could be wrong, but I think I remember the consensus on the boards many years ago was that the coins in these type slabs were pretty conservatively graded. >>



That's how I remember it also.

coindudeonebay

A guy had 10 or so of these on the BST that he was selling not too long ago. Can't remember who it was off the top of my head.