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1968 Topps #177 Nolan Ryan/Jerry Koosman PSA 10 (1/0)

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Well it was finally made. I would love to see this card.

if it were to sell...$75k-$100K image

Paul.

Later, Paul.
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  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    Wow, so cool. I'd love to see a scan of that if anyone has it or know who is the lucky guy to get this grade?
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  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    MY OH MY
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  • burke23burke23 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Well it was finally made. I would love to see this card.

    if it were to sell...$75k-$100K image

    Paul. >>



    I actually think more than that. Only takes two rich guys - dmitri being out hurts though, eh?
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  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just in time for the nationals
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭
    Finally, I need that card to finish my Jerry Koosman basic set in PSA 10. image
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  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Well it was finally made. I would love to see this card.

    if it were to sell...$75k-$100K image

    Paul. >>



    I actually think more than that. Only takes two rich guys - dmitri being out hurts though, eh? >>



    I thought I remembered Dimitri saying in an interview that there were a couple cards out of the collection that he would be holding on to. I wonder if he'd have an urge to bid on this one despite having sold off most of the collection?

    OK, Topps is set now; bring on the PSA 10 1968 #177 OPC...
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well it was finally made........... >>



    Hopefully not literally, but you never know in this hobby.
  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    i can think of a certain Texas collector that is a huge fan of Ryans
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  • 3BoyzTrading3BoyzTrading Posts: 798 ✭✭
    Yowzers...
  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭
    I wonder how many times that card has visited Newport Beach
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  • FavreFan1971FavreFan1971 Posts: 3,103 ✭✭✭
    wonder if it is a Milton Bradley mislabeled.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I wonder how many times that card has visited Newport Beach >>




    Good question.

    It is very possible that this this is the case. I recall reading Dmirti sent in one of his cards four times and it became a 10.

  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just in time for the nationals >>

    How true...

    Wasn't there a recent sale of a Ryan RC in a 9.5 holder??? As I recall, that was a real nice card and had a shot at a PSA 10. I want to say the reverse was o/c though.

    Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • stormtrooper80stormtrooper80 Posts: 317


    << <i>wonder if it is a Milton Bradley mislabeled. >>



    Wow, can you imagine??? Anyone here know how to tell the difference between a Topps Ryan RC and a Milton Bradley Ryan RC?
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭
    Would anyone be surprised if this card comes up for sale from 4SC?

    Edit to add: I know I wouldn't!
  • MattyCMattyC Posts: 1,335 ✭✭
    I was tracking the pop of this card for a bit. I believe it was indeed a bump from a 9. The pop of 9s decreased by 1 and then the 10 was listed in the pop report.

    If it is indeed a worthy 10-- it will be one bloody auction.

    But that said, assuming this was a review-- it just goes to show that there are great cards hiding in lesser holders... And I'd much rather be the one who buys that special 9 knowing it looks like a 10 (whether it one day gets its deserved bump or never does), than be the one who pays the 10-money after it has the label on it. Might be cheaper to look for that next amazing 9 and make the review an annual ritual.
  • hyperchipper09hyperchipper09 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Finally, I need that card to finish my Jerry Koosman basic set in PSA 10. image >>




    Post of the week image
  • stormtrooper80stormtrooper80 Posts: 317


    << <i>Would anyone be surprised if this card comes up for sale from 4SC?

    Edit to add: I know I wouldn't! >>



    I actually would be surprised........since it's going to Probstein
  • FavreFan1971FavreFan1971 Posts: 3,103 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Would anyone be surprised if this card comes up for sale from 4SC?

    Edit to add: I know I wouldn't! >>



    I actually would be surprised........since it's going to Probstein >>



    Doubtful.
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭✭
    I think the vast majority of vintage, high $ 10s were once 9s.
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  • MauriceMaurice Posts: 1,136
    image


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  • 3BoyzTrading3BoyzTrading Posts: 798 ✭✭
    Wow, amazing card. Thanks for posting it.
  • CSUrunandstunCSUrunandstun Posts: 573 ✭✭✭
    slight tilt...I will bet there are even better ones out there in "9" holders...
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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>slight tilt...I will bet there are even better ones out there in "9" holders... >>



    Good possibility.....
  • mygottamygotta Posts: 1,652


    << <i>slight tilt...I will bet there are even better ones out there in "9" holders... >>



    Thats what I was thinking. Its a nice looking card. Very clean, but something about its centering has me thrown off a bit and I think its the tilt you mention.
  • CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070 ✭
    Looks like it slid in the holder- look at the upper right corner and you can see the card shifted away from the little lip in the slab.
  • Foo3112Foo3112 Posts: 1,961
    Tilt was the first thing I noticed too before I even read some of the comments. Aside from that, it looks like it was pulled out of a pack today.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Anyone here know how to tell the difference between a Topps Ryan RC and a Milton Bradley Ryan RC? >>



    Why don't you tell us Stormtrooper!?!?! Oh...that's right...you don't know yourself!!! image
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    The card is tilted in the holder. I don't think the card itself has any tilt. Look at the open space under the bottom. Left to right it gets smaller. It's a tad crooked.

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  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭
    It might just be me but if I had a 400,000 dollar card I would have it scanned right... Maybe its me?
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  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PSA 9


    Strong price on this one.

  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>PSA 9


    Strong price on this one. >>



    Yep...but compared to the $400,000 for only one grade higher.....well...that is pathetic.
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    The 10 looks better than I thought it would.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>PSA 9


    Strong price on this one. >>



    Yep...but compared to the $400,000 for only one grade higher.....well...that is pathetic. >>




    A few years ago the PSA 9 was trading in the 8k range. If I owned a copy I would be thrilled to see this price.

  • SlabbedSlabbed Posts: 306
    Take that holder and just shake it as hard as you can and that should do it.
  • RaulsmasterRaulsmaster Posts: 663 ✭✭
    but smr says it's only worth 9500 image
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  • ergoismergoism Posts: 315 ✭✭✭
    Here's a better scan

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  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here's a better scan

    image >>




    Nice!!!
  • psychumppsychump Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭
    The grade is arguable. This racket at least removes wrinkles you may have missed or trimming or coloring and centering up and down, left and right and maybe even the same on the back! 8.5?

    I was at the Cow Palace show and at the PSA booth this guy said he has sent in his card 20 times and finally got the grade he wanted.

    So there you go.

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,170 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does the 10 grade qualification allow for the 3 obvious printer(?) dots in the upper center blue sky area as well as the brown dot between the "S" of ROOKIES and the upper right corner/border? And to the left of Ryans cap a blue dot in the sky background and the black mark in the white horizontal bar below the "N" of Nolan. Also the middle white vertical bar halfway up has a light gray mark. Are there an allowed # of these printers marks/imperfections within a 10 designation? At that price I would view these as a neg. despite the assigned grade.
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  • DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    GEM-MT 10: Gem Mint
    A PSA Gem Mint 10 card is a virtually perfect card. Attributes include four perfectly sharp corners, sharp focus and full original gloss. A PSA Gem Mint 10 card must be free of staining of any kind, but an allowance may be made for a slight printing imperfection, if it doesn't impair the overall appeal of the card. The image must be centered on the card within a tolerance not to exceed approximately 55/45 to 60/40 percent on the front, and 75/25 percent on the reverse.

    Per this official grade definition, I believe the card pictured clearly meets the criteria. IMO, whether one finds the printing imperfections undesirable or not becomes an issue of personal taste. But this specimen clearly lacks the horizontal tilt that plagues so many, has great centering, and very sharp corners. It is clearly superior to the PSA 9 that Memory Lane has up right now, and surpasses pretty much all of the PSA 9s viewable on VCP. So I can see reasoning that since it is better than these 9s, it should be a 10.

    I have seen 10s that I would never put in my collection, because they might merit the grade technically, but lack the eye appeal I'd expect in a 10. This card is not one of those I'd pass on; I think the newer scan with it sitting flush in the holder does it proper justice. If I saw this card in a PSA 9 holder, I would pay a serious premium for it, and review it till the cows came home. Someone did just that, and beat me to it image
  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The PSA 10 Ryan/Koosman RC is in Goldin's upcoming auction. Bidding starts Monday, July 27th.

    Steve

  • BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thread resurrected after 6 years. I love seeing the old user names.

    Daniel
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BaltimoreYankee said:
    Thread resurrected after 6 years. I love seeing the old user names.

    I’m still around too. B)


    Later, Paul.
  • GoDodgersFanGoDodgersFan Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭

    Good time to sell and kudos to the seller. I have no idea re the final hammer price, but is this 500K, 1 million, or more?

  • 19591959 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭

    close to a million

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I knew I should have purchased it six years ago when it was $75k. Who knew? 😂

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i would think this one will reach 7 figures at auction.

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  • ergoismergoism Posts: 315 ✭✭✭

    I love this thread bump. I miss this card.

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I dont.

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