Most impressive baseball record by a Non Hall of Fame caliber player?

lightningboy

What is the most impressive (difficult to break) career or single season baseball record ever recorded by a Non Hall of Fame worthy (i.e Pete Rose) player?

My pick would be Owen Wilson who once hit 36 triples in a season. The only player in the last 60+ years with as many as 22 was Curtis Granderson, who had 23.

alifaxwa2

Kerry Wood Strikeouts in 1 game

DCanfield

My vote goes to Johnny VanderMeer's back to back no hitters in June 1938 for the Reds.

lightningboy

Yes, his 20 strikeouts is impressive, although I believe he shares that with Clemens. I'm hoping to hear some additional season or career records.

digicat

In 1879, then 24 year old pitcher Will White threw 680 innings, facing 2906 batters. To get there he started 75 games and completed them all.

mlbfan2

<< <i>Kerry Wood Strikeouts in 1 game >>



Tom Cheney will be surprised to hear that he no longer holds the record.

itzagoner

50 consecutive stolen bases - Vince Coleman

mlbfan2

<< <i>In 1879, then 24 year old pitcher Will White threw 680 innings, facing 2906 batters. To get there he started 75 games and completed them all. >>



Meh. Pitchers threw underhand back then. 609 of 642 starts were complete games that year in the NL.

Beck6

Billy Hatcher broke Babe Ruth's record for batting average in a World Series. He hit .750 in the series and .519 for the entire playoffs that year. He also broke the record of consecutive hits by a player with 7 and most doubles in a four game series with four. Jose Rijo won the MVP. Go figure

itzagoner

<< <i>Billy Hatcher broke Babe Ruth's record for batting average in a World Series. He hit .750 in the series and .519 for the entire playoffs that year. He also broke the record of consecutive hits by a player with 7 and most doubles in a four game series with four. Jose Rijo won the MVP. Go figure >>



yeah. sometimes they just don't get it. too bad it wasn't Teri Hatcher, coulda turned out different.

miwlvrn

1976 Topps #564

miwlvrn

Octavio Dotel has played for thirteen major league teams, more than any other player in the history of Major League Baseball (though not a single season as per OP)

lightningboy

13 different teams. That is a career record.

Pretty impressive for so many teams to give up on him while someone else still wanted him.

mikeschmidt

Roger Maris - 61 home runs

gregmo32

Did Orel Hershiser pitch 59 consecutive scoreless innings in the same season he was MVP of the World Series?

FavreFan1971

Antonio Cromartie 109 yard TD. That can never be broken. Only tied.

digicat

<< <i>Did Orel Hershiser pitch 59 consecutive scoreless innings in the same season he was MVP of the World Series? >>



Yup. Finished the regular season with a 59 inning scoreless streak (including 5 straight shutouts). If you want to cheat, he pitched 8 scoreless frames in game 1 of the NLCS to bring the total up to 67 consecutive scoreless innings.

gregmo32

That Hershiser streak and season are one of the most incredible (and uncelebrated) on record. He was overshadowed by the "I don't believe what I just saw" moment of the ages in Game One of the WS.

digicat

<< <i>That Hershiser streak and season are one of the most incredible (and uncelebrated) on record. He was overshadowed by the "I don't believe what I just saw" moment of the ages in Game One of the WS. >>



His final start of the regular season was an insane 10 inning scoreless duel with Andy Hawkins of the Padres. Both pitchers were lifted after 10. The Padres won in 16.

lightningboy

Antonio Cromartie 109 yard TD. That can never be broken. Only tied.

Impressive - yes, Baseball record - no

Giantsdude24

Barry Bonds 73 homeruns in one season. Since its non hall of fame caliber worthy and all.

FavreFan1971

ooops, missed the baseball comment. Ok, I will go with most strikeouts by a batter in a game. 6 by Geoff Jenkins and a few other non hall of famers. I remember this game well, Ben Sheets pitch a nine inning one hit shut out but went into extra innings ending up 1-0 Brewers in the 17th.

Cakes

<< <i>Barry Bonds 73 homeruns in one season. Since its non hall of fame caliber worthy and all. >>



Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

mygotta

<< <i>That Hershiser streak and season are one of the most incredible (and uncelebrated) on record. He was overshadowed by the "I don't believe what I just saw" moment of the ages in Game One of the WS. >>



I agree this was so overshadowed by other stuff going on, it is hard to believe that he was never really commemorated properly. His cards did not seem to reflect it either, meanwhile Kirk Gibson hit the modern day shot-heard-round-the-world. Whats odd is that it was only game 1, so it did not win the Series, but it did probably kill any momentum the A's had going into it. It did have a 'Roy Hobbs' feel to the whole story though.

Didn't Hershiser's record get extended slightly into the 1989 season?

digicat

<< <i>Didn't Hershiser's record get extended slightly into the 1989 season? >>



If you're going by full innings, then no, he gave up a run in the 1st inning of his first game in 1989.

However, if you're also adding partial innings togeher (e.g. last out of one inning + first 2 outs of another = 1 inning) then you can push his inning streak to 60, as he had 1 out the inning prior to the 59 consecutive scoreless full innings, plus 2 outs into the 1989 season.

However, MLB doesn't recognize partial innings for this record, so it's 59.

GDM67

<< <i>In 1879, then 24 year old pitcher Will White threw 680 innings, facing 2906 batters. To get there he started 75 games and completed them all. >>

All this after having a daily breakfast of chipped beef and Scotch.

GB5HOF

Vince Coleman stealing over 100 bases in 3 consecutive years. That won't be touched the way the game is played today. And it was only 25 years ago...not 125 years ago. The game is still relatively the same.

Stadium1978

Alan Trammell and Lou Whitaker's American League record 1,918 career games played as teammates.

1all

Harvey Haddix - 12 perfect innings. That and the Hershiser shutout innings streak are both insane.

lightningboy

Alan Trammell and Lou Whitaker's American League record 1,918 career games played as teammates.

That's a very good one. I wonder what teammates are in second place. For 2 guys to be teammates for 13 years, both good enough to continue to start and yet not jump ship for fatter paychecks, seems like a pretty secure record.

NVbaseball

<< <i>What is the most impressive (difficult to break) career or single season baseball record ever recorded by a Non Hall of Fame worthy (i.e Pete Rose) player? >>



Impressive and difficult to break can be very different. Most difficulty to break almost always says more about how much the game has changed over the past 100 years, rather than how impressive the record really was

Interesting to note about the triples record, the Pirates still would have led the league in triples even if Owen Wilson had hit zero. Wonder how much Forbes Field played in that

Carlos Silva nine walks in 188 innings pitched is impressive

oddity

How about Eric Gagne's 84 consecutive saves?

bobbydigital731

Did I miss Pete Rose 4256 hits?

Edit to say that one could argue that anyone who is not in the Hall of Fame is not a Fame caliber player, but Pete's gambling is the only thing keeping him out of the Fame so I think my suggestion is a little off

psychump

<< <i>Alan Trammell and Lou Whitaker's American League record 1,918 career games played as teammates. >>



Jeter, Rivera and Posada. Three teammates that played together for 17 seasons(consecutive).

Bear48

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cardsnbeads

The entire 40/40 Club probably won't be in the Hall of Fame. Canseco and Soriano will never be Hall of Famers for sure. AROD and Bonds might be some day. K-Rod's 62 Saves . K-Rod will never be a Hall of Famer and probably won't get any Hall of Fame votes.

Estil

<< <i>Did I miss Pete Rose 4256 hits?

Edit to say that one could argue that anyone who is not in the Hall of Fame is not a Fame caliber player, but Pete's gambling is the only thing keeping him out of the Fame so I think my suggestion is a little off >>



Ineligible players don't count.

How about Sam Crawford's career triples record?

cardsnbeads

Pete Rose is a hall of fame caliber player. K-Rod is not, doesn't even have half as many saves as Mariano Rivera .

bobbybakeriv

To be fair, Bonds is HOF caliber as well.... not saying he will get in but his career was certainly outstanding, roids and all.

DonnieD

<< <i>I agree this was so overshadowed by other stuff going on, it is hard to believe that he was never really commemorated properly. His cards did not seem to reflect it either >>



His cards are actually the biggest reason I remember his record.

thehallmark

Fernando Tatis two grand slams in one inning off the same pitcher (Chan Ho Park).

Foo3112

Barry Bonds easily. Injected more steroids in himself than anyone who ever played the game.

NickM

Most innings pitched, 1 game - 26 by Leon Cadore and Joe Oeschger

Nick

Tabe

You guys have a funny definition of "HOF-caliber". Trammel, Bonds, Rose, Whitaker - these are HOF-caliber players. And Sam Crawford IS a HOF'er!

I think Owen Wilson's triples record might take the cake here.

cincyredlegs

I have to agree with Doug with Johnny Vandermeer's back to back no hitters. I don't think we will ever see that again.

Mark

Dialj

Tony Cloninger - On July 3, 1966, in a Braves 17-3 win over the Giants at Candlestick Park in San Francisco, Cloninger helped his team's cause with two grand slams and nine RBIs. Cloninger became the first player in the National League, and only pitcher to date, to hit two grand slams in the same game.

stown

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<< <i>Billy Hatcher broke Babe Ruth's record for batting average in a World Series. He hit .750 in the series and .519 for the entire playoffs that year. He also broke the record of consecutive hits by a player with 7 and most doubles in a four game series with four. Jose Rijo won the MVP. Go figure >>



yeah. sometimes they just don't get it. too bad it wasn't Teri Hatcher, coulda turned out different. >>



And unlike Billy's corked bat, Teri's are real and they're spectacular.



Jim Deshaies modern-day record of striking out the first eight batters is quite impressive but I'm just a tad biased...

GB5HOF

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<< <i>Alan Trammell and Lou Whitaker's American League record 1,918 career games played as teammates. >>



Jeter, Rivera and Posada. Three teammates that played together for 17 seasons(consecutive). >>



Two of those guys are first ballot HOFers.....in contrast to the tread title...

Tabe

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<< <i>Alan Trammell and Lou Whitaker's American League record 1,918 career games played as teammates. >>



Jeter, Rivera and Posada. Three teammates that played together for 17 seasons(consecutive). >>



Two of those guys are first ballot HOFers.....in contrast to the tread title... >>


I think he was trying to say that Trammell & Whitaker don't hold the record not that Jeter, River & Posada are not HOF-caliber. As it is, Trammell & Whitaker *DO* hold the record. Posada & Rivera both played less than 1918 games total let alone 1918 with Jeter.

jrboles

Will anyone ever again pull a Cesar Tovar and play 8 positions in a single game? Or did Oquendo do it as well? Will we ever see all nine?

hyperchipper09

Single game I'd go with Tatis and the 2 grand slams. For a season, Hershiser. Though I did spend some of the 90's/early 2000's thinking Greg Maddux was more than capable of getting to that mark.