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Photos of my once in a lifetime find - 1968-S PR70 DCAM Roosevelt UPDATE: The coin has been placed.

ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
My recent score of a 1968-S PR70 DCAM Roosevelt Dime has been discussed in this thread. I figured I'd start a new thread with my photos of the coin which is now in hand.

It is quite a treat to be able to be the caretaker of this one of a kind gem for a time.

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    CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice coin. By far the nicest I have seen. I'd keep it safely tucked away.

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    DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    Not a fan of these,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUT I gotta say,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,HOOOOOOWEEE! HUBBA HUBBA!image
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The mint sure only made a couple of those. They were really just learning to work the proofs in the new clad material back then.
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    sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeeeoooowzaa! image

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,795 ✭✭✭✭✭
    congrats

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,563 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice!
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    WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great eye you got. Keep us posted on your sale!

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    LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭✭
    Amazing proof. I would have never guessed they were that rare. I don't know much about modern issues, and it was a treat reading the thread about this coin. Congrats, you work hard at it. image
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    SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great looking '68 dime. I sure hope it doesn't develop milk spots.
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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the pictures in this thread better than the pics you posted in the other thread. The third pic in this thread really shows the coin well. The obverse is simply off the charts.

    Do you have any lower grade PCGS examples of this coin that you could compare the 70DCAM against? If so, please post side by side photos so we forumites can see for ourselves if there is a clear difference between a 70DCAM and a lesser DCAM (i.e. 68 or 69 DCAM).

    Further how does the obverse frost on your new dime compare to the obverse frost on your 1956 DCAM quarter ICON coin? I have a 1957 quarter with obverse frost that is equal in thickness and intensity to your 70DCAM dime.

    Again, congrats.

    BTW, are the purchase offers flowing into your PM box yet?
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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭✭
    Awesome! Congrats to you!!!
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    stealerstealer Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭✭
    Holy cow image
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 23,127 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Great looking '68 dime. I sure hope it doesn't develop milk spots. >>



    Well, it's had 45 years to do so and hasn't yet...
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    Stunning coin! Looks like it was minted yesterday.

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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a nice coin! I am shocked PCGS didn't take a picture of it. Maybe they don't think it is all that rare??

    What price are you hoping for? (Dream price?)
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    DaggoBDaggoB Posts: 332 ✭✭
    Sell it for as much as you can get. Over 3,000,000 sets were minted and the no s dime is what collectors were looking for. Now they will be trying to hit the jackpot like you did with a 70 DCAM. BTW gorgeous coin.
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    AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Makes me want to collect them.
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    ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭
    Congrats, you can tell instantly by looking at the pics that this is a special coin. It does indeed scream it.
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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Congrats, you can tell instantly by looking at the pics that this is a special coin. It does indeed scream it. >>




    Exactly what I was thinking! Congrats again on a great find.
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    mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭
    Yeah, real special eye candy!
    Congrats!
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    baseballjeffbaseballjeff Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭
    Wow, very beautiful coin! Congrats!
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    Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭
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    RadioContestKingRadioContestKing Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was really surprised to NOT see it in Coin Facts as I would have thought a picture for the first 70dcam a must. Love the coin and thanks for the pictures...Congrats on a great score again.....Enjoy image
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Put it in a major auction and take your profit.

    In the end it is just a condition rarity of a very, very common coin. Fortunately, it is in PCGS plastic so you should do well if you do sell it.
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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Very nice!image
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    ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the comments everyone.

    I too was surprised PCGS didn't pull it for a TrueView or CoinFacts photo...it amazes me that their system doesn't somehow flag coins like this to be photographed. I believe any appearance of the frost fading on the reverse is just an artifact of my photo.

    SanctionII - It's difficult to compare the frost on a dime like this to the frost on my avatar coin, as you well know the frost on nickel or cupronickel clad is quite different from the frost on a silver coin. It is the heaviest frost I've seen on any clad coin of the era; though I did also make a PR68DCAM on a 1968 Quarter in the same submission also. The fields on this dime are truly exceptionally deep.

    I've spoken with a couple well respected board members about assisting me with in the sale of the coin...I expect to make a decision on placement within the next week. I've developed a pretty good opinion on an appropriate price range...though I don't want to "contaminate" the market with a public dialogue on that topic before it is time.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow.... awesome coin.... Thanks for sharing...Cheers, RickO
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    KoveKove Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow, a truly exceptional coin. In the full-slab shots, that coin does look like something special.
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    SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    simply superb and an epic find. I would guess this coin hammers in the lower 5 figures.
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    unclebobunclebob Posts: 433 ✭✭✭
    Wow very sweet...

    Just curious how many sets do you think you have looked at? How many hours invested? How many years and shows? How many near misses?

    Selling it seems a bit sad and anti-climatic, though I certainly understand and would likely do the same thing.





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    kimber45ACPkimber45ACP Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭
    Nice!
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    << <i>Thanks for the comments everyone.

    I too was surprised PCGS didn't pull it for a TrueView or CoinFacts photo...it amazes me that their system doesn't somehow flag coins like this to be photographed. >>



    It does, and I've been trying to figure out why I didn't get it for photo. Perhaps it's due to the fact that it was submitted under the Modern service level; I don't typically get condition census coins that are submitted under Modern. I'll ask our IT staff what our paramaters are and if we need to expand them.

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    cladkingcladking Posts: 28,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's hard to judge any 70 from a photo and doubly so for a proof but this coin
    does have that snap indicative of a coin from a brand new die. It looks like it's
    in the first five or six anyway. Very nice!.

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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The mint sure only made a couple of those. They were really just learning to work the proofs in the new clad material back then.

    not necessarily true, the clad composition is the same as the standard Nickel composition so the Mint knew how to strike them, they just didn't really have a good method for preparing the dies. that continued until about 1974-76.
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    ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's been requested that I post a comparison of this coin with a comparable 68 or 69 DCAM. Here is a 1969-S PCGS PR68 DCAM that I have.

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    Edit: to add a Coin Facts photo of a 69 DCAM

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say that the two photographs of the 68DCAM dime and the 70DCAM dime illustrate a very real, tangible difference between the two grades (wonder what a 69DCAM would look like).

    The difference lies primarily between the degree of the contrast between the frosted devices and the mirrored fields. The fields on the 70DCAM look deeper and blacker than on the 68DCAM. Plus the frost is heavier and thicker on the 70DCAM than it is on the 68DCAM.

    So when it comes to clad DCAM proofs, 68 DCAMS are no longer "worthy".
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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unfortunately, you can not always rely on the Coinfacts pics everytime to pick up the wonderful contrast (e.g. quite possibly that PR69DCAM 69-S coin snapped the way it was snapped).

    Case in point ... I own one of the DEEPEST CAMEO proof Lincoln cents (1936-1942) imagineable. The coin appears to be not just cameo but full DCAM. The contrast is simply amazing. Now, take a look at the Coinfacts pic of my coin (coming in my next posting).

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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I mentioned to Coinfacts that my coin has a DCAM contrast that looks like it is snowing out on Christmas Day. It graded PR67CAM (finest known pop 2/0). I told them their pic hardly shows contrast at all (at least to me) and asked if they would like me to bring the coin back to their offices to snap a better picture of the cameo contrast! They told me they actually like their pic very much for a PR67CAM Lincoln Cent. So, there you have it.

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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
    see below

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    SwampboySwampboy Posts: 12,886 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Man that is Gorgeous!!!!
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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

    image Must have been a PM offer. image
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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This second 1942 Lincoln Cent pic is a coin graded 3 points lower than my PR67CAM coin in the first pic. Yet, the Coinfacts pic appears to show a coin with much greater contrast than the PR67CAM in the first pic.

    Point 1 - Especially with moderns (which these Lincoln cents are not obviously), the contrast has little to do with the numerical grade ... they are (2) distinct pieces of the final grade of a coin. Of course, the contrast can help along "eye appeal" which is a component of the grade. But, in the case of moderns, it generally does not from my experience. And, certainly a PR69DCAM coin is not moving up to PR70DCAM perfection due to amazing contrast.

    Point 2 - You must see the coins in hand. My PR67CAM from that first pic has more contrast in hand than is showing in this second pic of the PR64CAM coin.

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just looked at Wondercoin's photos of his two 1942 Cameo Proof Lincoln cents. Gorgeous coins.

    Now if only someone could put together a 6 coin 1942 proof set that has all six coins in Cameo. That would be something to see (not possible due to the absence of any Cameo quarter from this era of proof coinage).

    So, any update from Modcrewman on his new Top Pop?
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    ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm now ready to provide an update.

    I agreed to terms of a sale with James Sego (segoja) last night, for private placement with a client of his.

    I've been asked to not disclose the selling price, but I believe I was able to get strong money for the coin. The price was perhaps less than could have been netted in auction, but enough to induce me to avoid the delay and uncertainty of going to auction and never second guess my decision.

    I'd met James for the first time at the Central States show in April and my show report described him as "a true gentlemen of numismatics". Having now put together what in my world is a very substantial deal with James, my first impression has been confirmed. He was up front with me from the start and always kept his client's best interest at the forefront in our negotiations.

    The coin has been placed in the ErasmusHall registry...which I didn't actually know until I just confirmed it's placement on the certificate verification page. It appears that he now shares the top spot in the 1965-Present Proof Roosevelt Dime Registry as a result of adding this coin. Congratulations to him.
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    guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,240 ✭✭✭
    Awesome. Congrats. I've always had good dealings with Mr. Sego on here, never met him though.

    I'm sure the recipient is more than happy.
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    DCWDCW Posts: 6,977 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats to all parties. It certainly is one beautiful gem of a coin.

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,704 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats to everyone involved here. As from the perspective of my collection the coin is equivalent to a PR69, James would have been my first choice for placing it in a collection. I've never seen or known him to be anything other than a straight shooter.
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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
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