<< <i>The hits on Lee's head and nose and the nick under McClellan's eye make this one MS64. On a good day maybe MS65. >>
And then I am not sure if it is just the photo or if in fact the coin is lacking strong luster...but if that is the case then I too would vote 64/65. I think it is a nice coin.
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I thought the obverse hit was distracting to knock it out of Gem MS, The lack luster surfaces knocked it down to MS 63 in my eyes. I freely admit, I suck at grading early Commems !!
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I voted 65, but think it's a 64 because of the nick. If it's in NGC plastic it's at least a 65. I wouldn't be shocked to see it in a PC65 holder, but I wouldn't buy it at that, either.
An honest crusty XF is probably tougher than a 67.
I've seen a 68 with amazing purples etc and with an almost identical mark on Lee's forehead. I didn't agree with the 68. But, for this one, because I deduce from the photography that the lustre (as should be expected) is close to blazing (here it looks more satiny than they usually come), I voted 66.
Only coins with strong frosty lustre can pick up that kind of color on the rim. Not a grade changer, just an imaging "tell"
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I voted MS 65, but this coin could go anywhere from 64-66 depending on how it pops in-hand. I don't think the marks are anywhere near bad enough to preclude a gem grade.
It might be the fault of the photo, but I graded it MS-63. The coin appears to not have its original skin from too much dipping. The mark on Lee's forehead precludes anything better than MS-64 regardless of the surfaces.
This one is in an old NGC MS-65 holder. This was one of the first "better commemoratives" I bought back in the 1990s, and I paid way too much for it, but it is a nice original example. As Col Jessip told us this issue comes nice so you can be fussy when you are looking for one.
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<< <i>It might be the fault of the photo... coin appears to not have its original skin from too much dipping...this issue comes nice so you can be fussy when you are looking for one. >>
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The picture shows a pretty weak luster, but if indeed it's there, I could go as high as an MS66. The silver's "grainy luster" isn't there, though, and instead I see strange, weak horizontal streaks across the coin. Put me down for MS64.
I went 65 before peeking at others opinions. The forehead and cheekbone nicks seem minor but yet I noticed them quickly. I like the coin and the photo.
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The coin is graded MS64 by PCGS. It's in an old green label holder. My opinion of the coin is that it's a very nice 64, and It wouldn't bother me to see it in an MS65 holder.
Don't hold your breath when it comes to getting an MS-65 for this piece. The Antietam commemorative half dollar is like the 1881-S Morgan dollar. There are a lot of high grade ones out there, and the competition is stiff for getting the coin in an MS-65 or 66 holder. That mark on Lee's head is enough to bring it down. Only a drop in past standards will get this coin an upgrade.
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<< <i>Don't hold your breath when it comes to getting an MS-65 for this piece. The Antietam commemorative half dollar is like the 1881-S Morgan dollar. There are a lot of high grade ones out there, and the competition is stiff for getting the coin in an MS-65 or 66 holder. That mark on Lee's head is enough to bring it down. Only a drop in past standards will get this coin an upgrade. >>
Some coins with large price spreads in the next grade up may see more of a grading bias IMO. Not common date Morgans. Is this Antietem a gem? Maybe. I don't think it needs any drop in standards to make gem today with a try or two.
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<< <i>The hits on Lee's head and nose and the nick under McClellan's eye make this one MS64. On a good day maybe MS65. >>
And then I am not sure if it is just the photo or if in fact the coin is lacking strong luster...but if that is the case then I too would vote 64/65. I think it is a nice coin.
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I thought the obverse hit was distracting to knock it out of Gem MS,
The lack luster surfaces knocked it down to MS 63 in my eyes. I freely
admit, I suck at grading early Commems !!
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An honest crusty XF is probably tougher than a 67.
I've seen a 68 with amazing purples etc and with an almost identical mark on Lee's forehead. I didn't agree with the 68. But, for this one, because I deduce from the photography that the lustre (as should be expected) is close to blazing (here it looks more satiny than they usually come), I voted 66.
Only coins with strong frosty lustre can pick up that kind of color on the rim. Not a grade changer, just an imaging "tell"
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This one is in an old NGC MS-65 holder. This was one of the first "better commemoratives" I bought back in the 1990s, and I paid way too much for it, but it is a nice original example. As Col Jessip told us this issue comes nice so you can be fussy when you are looking for one.
<< <i>It might be the fault of the photo... coin appears to not have its original skin from too much dipping...this issue comes nice so you can be fussy when you are looking for one. >>
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The picture shows a pretty weak luster, but if indeed it's there, I could go as high as an MS66. The silver's "grainy luster" isn't there, though, and instead I see strange, weak horizontal streaks across the coin. Put me down for MS64.
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The forehead and cheekbone nicks seem minor but yet I noticed them quickly.
I like the coin and the photo.
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<< <i>Don't hold your breath when it comes to getting an MS-65 for this piece. The Antietam commemorative half dollar is like the 1881-S Morgan dollar. There are a lot of high grade ones out there, and the competition is stiff for getting the coin in an MS-65 or 66 holder. That mark on Lee's head is enough to bring it down. Only a drop in past standards will get this coin an upgrade. >>
Some coins with large price spreads in the next grade up may see more of a grading bias IMO. Not common date Morgans. Is this Antietem a gem? Maybe. I don't think it needs any drop in standards to make gem today with a try or two.