So it looks like we need to send in the 2013 "2" coin ASE set

Type2

NOT open in the mint box to get the 1st strike again.

•Submit coins in the original unopened, sealed Mint packaging for First Strike Designation.
•Select either Standard or Secure service type (if utilizing Secure, coins are not eligible for the Standard First Strike label or West Point label).

Manorcourtman

That's totally crazy! It's like sending an unscratched scratch off lottery ticket to a stranger and waiting for them to tell you if you won. You have no chance to pre-screen for issues, pass!!

BigA

Makes no sense since the coins are unique to the set. I bet there will be a change in that requirement before shipping of the sets starts...

I should add that ATS specifically states that the coins should NOT be sent in the original packaging but in the capsules they came in.

morgansforever

Scratching head.

djm

What's the point of this thread??

This has been PCGS Policy since the First Strike Program began. If you can get them there in the first 30 days after the first release or send them in the sealed box if you may not make it in the first 30 days.

OPA

<< <i>What's the point of this thread??

This has been PCGS Policy since the First Strike Program began. If you can get them there in the first 30 days after the first release or send them in the sealed box if you may not make it in the first 30 days. >>



The point is: It does not distinguish the time frame, but indicates that all sets to be graded first strike, must be submitted unopened in the sealed US Mint box. I suspect it's an error in PCGS's instructions.

Type2

<< <i>Makes no sense since the coins are unique to the set. I bet there will be a change in that requirement before shipping of the sets starts...

I should add that ATS specifically states that the coins should NOT be sent in the original packaging but in the capsules they came in. >>

Thats what i thought now if i send in the mint box with 15 set's i will need to pay a extra fee to have my Mint set box's sent back to me. I hope they fix this befor the sets are sent out to us.

derryb

Is it not possible that all shipments will not be made within 30 days of the first shipment? If so, only those shipped within the first 30 days will be eligible meaning that not all of them will be eligible for First Strike. Sounds like PCGS is preparing for possibility they do not all get shipped within 30 days. Foresight is a good business trait.

LochNESS

I know it's not what you want to hear but ... this kinda makes sense to me. Capsules are too easily opened. The integrity of the First Strike label depends entirely on being able to prove that the coins are without doubt first-release. If the mint packaging is opened, one could argue the coins were swapped.

All of this means nothing to me as a collector but as a businessman who knows there's a huge market for "First Strike" and "Early Release" slabs it's a no-brainer just send what they ask and you'll get your money back in sales.

jessewvu

<< <i> If the mint packaging is opened, one could argue the coins were swapped. >>



So, can you please tell me what coins they could be swapped out with that would not also be first strike? These coins have not been released elsewhere yet. Who cares if the package was opened? Nobody cares. Only after the first 30 days would matter because then you would have to verify shipping date.

I'm not entirely sure you know what you are talking about or know the process for first strike designation. I can swap coins all day, I could take them out of the capsules and spin them on a table. That has nothing to do with the FS designation. If they make it to Pcgs within 30 days after the first us mint shipment to the public, the FS designation is available, sealed box or not. If any of the coins being sent in have been released previously, then a sealed box is required for a special designation (and FS on that special designation).

Smittys

What's the big deal about first strike anyway ?

morgansforever

<<What's the big deal about first strike anyway ?>>

Not a big deal to me but to others it's very meaningful. Take for instance the 09 UHR, the standard label and the FS label are separated by thousands of dollars. It's a PCGS product that has caught on, everyone collects differently.

BigA

<< <i>

<< <i> If the mint packaging is opened, one could argue the coins were swapped. >>



So, can you please tell me what coins they could be swapped out with that would not also be first strike? These coins have not been released elsewhere yet. Who cares if the package was opened? Nobody cares. Only after the first 30 days would matter because then you would have to verify shipping date.

I'm not entirely sure you know what you are talking about or know the process for first strike designation. I can swap coins all day, I could take them out of the capsules and spin them on a table. That has nothing to do with the FS designation. If they make it to Pcgs within 30 days after the first us mint shipment to the public, the FS designation is available, sealed box or not. If any of the coins being sent in have been released previously, then a sealed box is required for a special designation (and FS on that special designation). >>



Thank you for saving me from trying to explain that to the person who is confused.... I guess he always sends he burnished W's, proofs, etc. to be graded FS in the sealed Mint shipping boxes without looking at the coins so he doesn't see "the point of this thread"