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BBCE offering new shrink wrap

BBCE offering new shrink wrap with their logo in it. I think it looks fantastic and shows that Steve is taking as many steps as he can (within reason) to deter fraud. I personally really like it. Thanks Steve, Rick and BBCE!

Check it out at: bbcexchange.com/blog

If someone would attach the link I would appreciate it.

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  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    AWESOME SAUCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • ExodusExodus Posts: 348 ✭✭✭
    I just hope the professionals don't learn how to duplicate that.

    I know PSA uses a hologram. I think BBCE would be much better served if they had a hologram as well. I've
    heard holograms are very hard to fake, if not impossible.

    Nice effort by BBCE, but not foolproof unless there is a hologram.

    PSA uses holograms, as does Gretzky and Bobby Orr when you send something to their company.
  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    did you read the blog? lol
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • ExodusExodus Posts: 348 ✭✭✭
    OK. I just read it.

    No hologram = limited security.

    The theifs will be on this right away.

    I think people will spend an extra $25.00 for a hologram when buying boxes anywhere from $100.00 to $6,000.00
  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    i hear you. BBCE isnt for everyone, no worries.
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keeping the BBCE sticker on the shrinkwrap is another level of protection, too.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.


  • << <i>I just hope the professionals don't learn how to duplicate that.

    I know PSA uses a hologram. I think BBCE would be much better served if they had a hologram as well. I've
    heard holograms are very hard to fake, if not impossible.

    Nice effort by BBCE, but not foolproof unless there is a hologram.

    PSA uses holograms, as does Gretzky and Bobby Orr when you send something to their company. >>



    It is GREAT BBCE is making their 'brand' packaging safer from counterfeiters going forward. This seems like a major improvement. However, IMO, at this point the cat is out of the bag. All a fraudster needs to do is simply duplicate the label and sell it as a Pre June 2013 Box. As the new wrapper becomes more prevalent will people start to scrutinize the 'old' style wrapping as being possibly fake or less reliable as real? What are the LONG term ramifications regarding the old style packaging? Will people now be sending back their boxes to BBCE for re-wrapping?
  • I like this a lot. I didn't read the blog but I wonder if I can also request the regular shrinkwrap because I don't want to take away the beauty of some boxes. Great props on BBCE's part and I would like to think a lot of us had something to do with this. I'm sure Steve reads here a bit more than we think.
  • Big80sBig80s Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭
    Bravo, Steve!
    Let's Rip It: PackGeek.com
    Jeff
  • I think its awesome and a step in the right direction. Maybe its not full proof, but neither was the other version. But I dont see enough BBCE stuff floating around on eBay to presume its a point for fakers to copy.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't see any problems with the old BBCE shrinkwrapped boxes (some of mine go way back to when Steve used a business card under the shrinkwrap instead of the sticker). This is just an enhancement imo. I like the graphic design but can also see Foo's point about preferring clear shrinkwrap for certain boxes, too.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • esquiresportsesquiresports Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭
    I appreciate the effort, although its size and repetition does impact the graphic presentation on most boxes. I don't recall hearing of anyone ever claiming to have purchased a resealed BBCE box, but imagine it could still happen. That aside, now I can argue with myself over whether to get all my BBCE boxes re-wrapped. I shudder at the thought of what shipping insurance would cost, however! I think I'd have to wait until I was looking to sell something.
    Always buying 1971 OPC Baseball packs.
  • My eyes hurt every time I read that blog. Can they not get a different color background? I can't even read the blue on blue links on the left.

    What's the over under on days till bubblebathgirl has rolls of that shrink wrap for sale?
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My eyes hurt every time I read that blog. Can they not get a different color background? I can't even read the blue on blue links on the left.

    What's the over under on days till bubblebathgirl has rolls of that shrink wrap for sale? >>



    Lmao!
    opcbaseball.com
  • mattinglymint23mattinglymint23 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭
    That box is pretty sexy too


  • << <i>I think its awesome and a step in the right direction. Maybe its not full proof, but neither was the other version. But I dont see enough BBCE stuff floating around on eBay to presume its a point for fakers to copy. >>



    For example, buy an empty 1973 Schmidt Series Wax Box. Fill it with proverbial rocks. Make the fake sticker. Put some clear wrapping on. WhaLah! A pre June 2013 BBCE box. If you buy it, you are likely not to open the BBCE seal. If you do open it and find the rocks the seller throws their hands up in the air and says what do you want from me. It was a sealed BBCE box!. With the prices these boxes are realizing lately, you don't think that will or has started to happen already? It is only a matter of time.

    In any event, clearly a GREAT move by BBCE to make it harder going forward to counterfeit their 'brand' and reputation!


  • << <i>(some of mine go way back to when Steve used a business card under the shrinkwrap instead of the sticker) >>



    Wow, I was unaware of that. Even easier for an evil doer to counterfeit a pre June 2013 BBCE box. If I owned a box like that I might consider contacting Steve to get it re-wrapped!

    Question for you. In 5 years, what would you think would be worth more. Selling A BBCE sealed box with a legacy business card. Or popping the seal, having all the packs slabbed and selling them all with the box? Or having the box re-wrapped now in the June 2013 wrapping and selling it? Or waiting and having it wrapped in the latest wrapping BBCE might come up with at the time?
  • ChiefsFan1stChiefsFan1st Posts: 845 ✭✭✭
    Awesome!! I now wish the rest of mine were wrapped in the new wrapping for unifomity.
    I dont wanna grow up, Im a Toys-R-Us kid!
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>(some of mine go way back to when Steve used a business card under the shrinkwrap instead of the sticker) >>



    Wow, I was unaware of that. Even easier for an evil doer to counterfeit a pre June 2013 BBCE box. If I owned a box like that I might consider contacting Steve to get it re-wrapped!

    Question for you. In 5 years, what would you think would be worth more. Selling A BBCE sealed box with a legacy business card. Or popping the seal, having all the packs slabbed and selling them all with the box? Or having the box re-wrapped now in the June 2013 wrapping and selling it? Or waiting and having it wrapped in the latest wrapping BBCE might come up with at the time? >>



    Graded packs are always going to carry a premium and if you crack the seal you may be pleasantly surprised with a couple of star packs, too. As for the older shrinkwrapped boxes vs the newer ones, I don't foresee any real premium with one over the other. Heck, even raw boxes on ebay are realizing record prices. The BBCE shrinkwrap is just another layer of reassurance for the buyer. But I suppose gold eagles are always safer, though even those are being faked in China these days, too.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • In all honesty, most people don't care if its sealed by BBCE or even know about BBCE for all that matter. I think WE are the ones making his prices increase and are in line waiting for there newest vintage products to come out. I think were making a huge deal about something that isn't that big in the world of sports cards. Is the sealed card world going to shut down because it doesn't have a BBCE shrinkwrap or a card with Steves name on it? I'm betting not. Just take it for whats its worth I guess. Nice on BBCE's part, Yes. A huge deal? ...ehhh not really. Just makes them look more professional.


  • << <i>In all honesty, most people don't care if its sealed by BBCE or even know about BBCE for all that matter. I think WE are the ones making his prices increase and are in line waiting for there newest vintage products to come out. I think were making a huge deal about something that isn't that big in the world of sports cards. Is the sealed card world going to shut down because it doesn't have a BBCE shrinkwrap or a card with Steves name on it? I'm betting not. Just take it for whats its worth I guess. Nice on BBCE's part, Yes. A huge deal? ...ehhh not really. Just makes them look more professional. >>



    When you buy a sealed box directly from Steve you get that really nice comfort factor. Now with the new wrapping you get even more protection. However, when purchasing a box off ebay that is not sealed, you can and most likely do examine the individual packs closely before tucking it away in the vault. When you buy an "after market", sealed "BBCE" branded box, you are less likely to pop the seal. If an evil doer wanted to make some spare change by counterfeiting a business card, you wouldn't know what hit you. Why bother faking a pack when you can fake a box and hide behind a business card and a seal. Its just a matter of time before the pack fakers realize this and switch gears.

    I feel more people care that its sealed by BBCE then you think. Especially when they go to sell and make the fact a big part of their marketing. I think its a pretty significant change by BBCE and they should be applauded. Anyway, more to the point, as with anything, buyer beware. To quote Joe Orlando. 'Never Get Cheated'
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In all honesty, most people don't care if its sealed by BBCE or even know about BBCE for all that matter. I think WE are the ones making his prices increase and are in line waiting for there newest vintage products to come out. I think were making a huge deal about something that isn't that big in the world of sports cards. Is the sealed card world going to shut down because it doesn't have a BBCE shrinkwrap or a card with Steves name on it? I'm betting not. Just take it for whats its worth I guess. Nice on BBCE's part, Yes. A huge deal? ...ehhh not really. Just makes them look more professional. >>



    +1

    Unopened 70s/80s stuff on this board is like a 1989 New Kids on the Block concert. But in the grand scheme of the hobby there's little interest. However, those that are interested are very passionate about it.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought W took care of all those evil doers? image


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.


  • << <i>I thought W took care of all those evil doers? image >>



    Unfortunately, mission was only partly complete. image

    O thought mission was complete too.

  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭
    To me this just adds another aspect of the professionalism Steve exudes with his company. Not only is he considered the top authority in authentication of unopened product, but people know when
    they buy from him they can count on quality service and top shelf unopened inventory. Steve and his team are the best at what they do!

    aconte
  • lahmejoonlahmejoon Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭
    This is a great step they have taken.

    Only one question remains....MARC! When are we going to group bust that '75 cello!? image
  • They got a box of 93 finest. Wouldn't mind getting a couple of packs of those I think.
  • 19541954 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭
    Steve just added $25,000 worth of product to his website tonight guys. Sweet stuff and it will go fast.
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Steve just added $25,000 worth of product to his website tonight guys. Sweet stuff and it will go fast. >>



    The 1970s baseball tab is still stuck on 48... image


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • ChiefsFan1stChiefsFan1st Posts: 845 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Steve just added $25,000 worth of product to his website tonight guys. Sweet stuff and it will go fast. >>



    The 1970s baseball tab is still stuck on 48... image >>



    80's football didnt gain much eitherimage
    I dont wanna grow up, Im a Toys-R-Us kid!
  • I'm not seeing that 70's, 80's or 90's got anything new. You sure your looking at the right site?
  • elsnortoelsnorto Posts: 2,012 ✭✭


    << <i>80's football didnt gain much eitherimage >>



    It did, but it went incredibly fast!

    3780 - 1974 Fleer Football Unopened Patches Wax Pack
    2650 - 1974 Topps Football Unopened 2-Card Cello Pack
    576 - 1979 Topps Football Unopened Wax Pack Tray
    2339 - 1979 Topps Football Unopened Cello Pack
    4434 - 1980 Topps Football Unopened Cello Pack
    3079 - 1980 Topps Football Unopened Super Cello Pack
    2340 - 1981 Topps Football Unopened Cello Pack
    594 - 1982 Topps Football Unopened Cello Pack
    2332 - 1982 Topps Football Unopened Grocery Rack Pack
    77 - 1983 Topps Football Unopened Wax Box
    2342 - 1985 Topps Football Unopened Cello Pack
    2343 - 1986 Topps Football Unopened Cello Pack
    3192 - 1987 Topps Football Unopened Cello Pack
    2748 - 1987 Topps Football Unopened Rack Pack
    3140 - 1989 Score Football Unopened Vending Box

    Those items in bold were listed this morning and are now out of stock! image

    Snorto~


    Edited to add that there are still at least one 1982 Topps Football vending box and racks that were just listed today and somehow managed to survive!
  • bigdcardsbigdcards Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭
    without trying to derail, a member known to at least aid in pack fraud had a bbce wrapped box a few weeks ago and I didn't consider buying it because I didn't trust the seal. So for me, while I like the wrapped boxes, there is still a limit to who I will buy from. In contrast I would buy a PSA pack from a random e-bay person as long as I think they'll send it.
    To bigdcards: "you are right" - cpamike "That is correct" -grote15
  • 3BoyzTrading3BoyzTrading Posts: 798 ✭✭
    The wrapping is awesome and just adds to the value in the long term. The additions to his website is mainly modern stuff.
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