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This will be both fun and interesting.Let's name the "iconic" face of every MLB franchise. You can debate the picks, but for every team, only one person gets first hack. I get the 3-1 'get it over' fastball...thrown by Jamie Moyer. 
NYY = Babe Ruth
Next team and player?
NYY = Babe Ruth
Next team and player?
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<< <i>Padres - Gwynn >>
I agree! And appreciate a person who swings the bat! Winfield and Hoffman are a distant 2nd and 3rd IMHO.
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Agreed. Molitor comes to mind as does Cecil Cooper. But you are on spot!
<< <i>This one is a closer race....Did you see Santo Alcala in his prime? JK Again, I agree although Bench is a strong consideration. >>
I considered Bench, and I think its very close. Both are iconic in a Reds uniform, both names are generally household or "classic sounding". But I gave the edge to Rose.
Mets - Tom Seaver
Phillies - Mike Schmidt
Giants - Willie Mays
Royals - George Brett
Cubs - Ernie Banks
Red Sox - Ted Williams
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<< <i>Mariners - Ken Griffey Jr.
Mets - Tom Seaver
Phillies - Mike Schmidt
Giants - Willie Mays
Royals - George Brett
Cubs - Ernie Banks
Red Sox - Ted Williams
Nick >>
All great picks...but, you can only have one. Part of the allure. Who do you feel strongest about?
<< <i>Brooklyn Dodgers - Jackie, of course >>
Now, we are cookin'. What about the Dodgers as a franchise?
Personally, I'd go Koufax...the best LHP in history in my view.
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<< <i>Brooklyn Dodgers - Jackie, of course >>
Now, we are cookin'. What about the Dodgers as a franchise?
Personally, I'd go Koufax...the best LHP in history in my view. >>
I agree that the LA Dodgers would be Koufax.
In my mind though, Brooklyn and LA might as well be separate teams. They really changed personalities when they moved to the West Coast.
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<< <i>Still fairly easy calls (we are not in Joe Carter terroritory yet) But one of the most underrated players ever, Rogers Hornsby and the prototypical RH power pitcher (Bob gibson) come to mind too. It would have been Pujols had he stayed. >>
You can add Ozzie Smith into the mix too. As great as all the players you have mentioned were none of them can hold a candle to Stan the Man here in St. Louis. Stan was loved by so many generations of Cardinals fans.. Young & Old alike.
<< <i>Expos - Tim Raines >>
Not Dawson or Carter?
<< <i>Orioles- Cal Ripken Jr. >>
Brooks Robinson gives Cal a serious run for his money.
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<< <i>Mariners - Ken Griffey Jr.
Mets - Tom Seaver
Phillies - Mike Schmidt
Giants - Willie Mays
Royals - George Brett
Cubs - Ernie Banks
Red Sox - Ted Williams
Nick >>
All great picks...but, you can only have one. Part of the allure. Who do you feel strongest about? >>
Most of these were kind-of no-brainers. I'll go with Williams, as that's the only one that I could really get a fight on.
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Unless you are going to go wayyy back I don't think there can be much arguement
(Yes, Kaline over Cobb for the face of the franchise as far as I'm concerned)
Cleveland Spiders: Cy Young
St. Louis Perfectos: Cy Young
Boston Americans: Cy Young
Cleveland Naps: Cy Young
Boston Rustlers: Cy Young
OK, OK, not really the intent of the thread, I know. On with the non-silliness answers...
<< <i>Tigers: Kaline
(Yes, Kaline over Cobb for the face of the franchise as far as I'm concerned) >>
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one.
<< <i>Tigers: Kaline
(Yes, Kaline over Cobb for the face of the franchise as far as I'm concerned) >>
I Agree with this it's the first name I thought of when I saw the thread, in ten years it may be Miggy...
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<< <i>Milwaukee Brewers = Robin Yount
Shawn >>
+1
Houston Astros.....Nolan Ryan
Texas Rangers.....Nolan Ryan
well...maybe i am bias
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<< <i>Tigers: Kaline
(Yes, Kaline over Cobb for the face of the franchise as far as I'm concerned) >>
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. >>
Being a life-long Michigan resident, I have to go with Kaline. I never even saw him play, being just a couple years too young. However, between the very long historic career he had with 100% of it in a Tigers uniform, plus a very long broadcasting career for the franchise after that, I really can't imagine anyone being more synonymous with the Detroit Tigers than Al Kaline. It really feels to me like Cobb is a statistically fantastic player who is fun to brag that he played for Detroit and take pride in his on-field accomplishments, but it more or less stops there, where Kaline is the Tigers, revered in every sense. I think if you didn't grow up in the Detroit area, it may be easier to imagine Cobb above Kaline, but I'm willing to be that anyone from here will pick Kaline first.
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<< <i>Orioles- Cal Ripken Jr. >>
Brooks Robinson gives Cal a serious run for his money.
Nick >>
I agree on Brooks. Cal is my childhood hero, but Brooks has done more for baseball in Baltimore than anyone. There is a reason the community built the statue outside of Oriole Park for Brooks. Cal is a close 1b. Without the streak, it's not even close.
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Twins - Harmon Killebrew
Cubs - Ernie Banks
Pirates - Roberto Clemente
Giants - Willie Mays
Royals - George Brett
Red Sox - Ted Williams
A's - Rickey Henderson or Reggie Jackson?
Atl Braves - Hank Aaron or Chipper Jones?
Finally,
Rays - Wade Boggs LOL
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<< <i>Orioles- Cal Ripken Jr. >>
Brooks Robinson gives Cal a serious run for his money.
Nick >>
Good point.
<< <i>Astros - Craig Biggio
Twins - Harmon Killebrew
Cubs - Ernie Banks
Pirates - Roberto Clemente
Giants - Willie Mays
Royals - George Brett
Red Sox - Ted Williams
A's - Rickey Henderson or Reggie Jackson?
Atl Braves - Hank Aaron or Chipper Jones?
Finally,
Rays - Wade Boggs LOL >>
IMO, The A's are a tough one since their best players didn't spend as many years with the franchise as other teams' top guys. Reggie Jackson didn't play all that many seasons with the A's. I might consider Mickey Cochrane, Lefty Grove, Catfish, Frank Baker, and Jimmie Foxx in the discussion for them as well. Personally, I vote you skip the A's players altogether and you just have to go with Connie Mack as the face of the franchise instead. Nothing can approach his 50 consecutive years of managing that franchise.
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IMO, The A's are a tough one since their best players didn't spend as many years with the franchise as other teams' top guys. Reggie Jackson didn't play all that many seasons with the A's. I might consider Mickey Cochrane, Lefty Grove, Catfish, Frank Baker, and Jimmie Foxx in the discussion for them as well. Personally, I vote you skip the A's players altogether and you just have to go with Connie Mack as the face of the franchise instead. Nothing can approach his 50 consecutive years of managing that franchise. >>
Great, GREAT point.
Marlins Hanley Ramirez
Diamondbacks Randy Johnson
Rays Joe Maddon
Angels - Nolan Ryan
Astros - Craig Biggio
Blue Jays - Roy Halladay
Braves - (close to call for me between Eddie Mathews and Hank Aaron, not who was the best player, but whose name specifically evokes the franchise; to me, you say Ed Mathews I think Braves, versus you say Aaron I think all-time home run king (intentionally ignoring Bonds))
Brewers - Robin Yount
Cardinals - Stan Musial
Cubs - Ernie Banks
Diamondbacks - Randy Johnson
Dodgers - Jackie Robinson
Expos - Gary Carter
Giants - Willie Mays
Indians - Bob Feller
Mariners - Ken Griffey Jr.
Marlins - Hanley Ramirez
Mets - Tom Seaver
Nationals (present day franchise) - Bryce Harper
Orioles - Brooks Robinson
Padres - Tony Gwynn
Phillies - Mike Schmidt
Pirates - Roberto Clemente
Rangers - Nolan Ryan
Rays - Evan Longoria
Reds - Pete Rose
Red Sox - Ted Williams
Rockies - Todd Helton
Royals - George Brett
Senators/Nationals (original Nationals franchise, name interchangeable w/ Senators) - Walter Johnson
Tigers - Al Kaline
Twins - Harmon Killiebrew
White Sox - Frank Thomas
Yankees - Babe Ruth
(Revised to clarify difference between two "Natonals" franchises)
<< <i>A's - Rickey Henderson or Reggie Jackson? >>
In terms of the Oakland A's...
I think it's close but Reggie was the guy that put the Oakland A's on the map. While we still love the guy, many of us were sorely disappointed when he chose to go into the Hall of Fame as a Yankee and we do hold that against him a bit.
Rickey is Oakland through and through, but he had a pretty darn good team to back him up. Reggie was the offense on a team built around pitching and defense and made as much news with his mouth as his bat.
I suppose you could make a case that Billy Beane would like to be the face of the franchise. As GM he doesn't keep anyone around long enough for fans to get attached to.
To take the question quite literally though, hands down it's this guy.
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<< <i>A's - Rickey Henderson or Reggie Jackson? >>
In terms of the Oakland A's...
I think it's close but Reggie was the guy that put the Oakland A's on the map. While we still love the guy, many of us were sorely disappointed when he chose to go into the Hall of Fame as a Yankee and we do hold that against him a bit.
Rickey is Oakland through and through, but he had a pretty darn good team to back him up. Reggie was the offense on a team built around pitching and defense and made as much news with his mouth as his bat.
I suppose you could make a case that Billy Beane would like to be the face of the franchise. As GM he doesn't keep anyone around long enough for fans to get attached to.
To take the question quite literally though, hands down it's this guy. >>
If you mean the Oakland A's, then yes, there is definitely good reason to agree here. But if we're talking about the Athletics franchise, including Phillie/K.C./Oakland as a package deal, then I think it is still Mack.
<< <i>Diamondbacks - Randy Johnson >>
Interesting all 3 of us so far have chosen Randy, I thought there might be some votes for Luis Gonzalez or Schilling.
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Texas Rangers:
Pudge Rodriquez
close consideration to:
Juan Gonzalez, Nolan Ryan
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<< <i>A's - Connie Mack
Angels - Nolan Ryan
Astros - Craig Biggio
Blue Jays - Roy Halladay
Braves - (close to call for me between Eddie Mathews and Hank Aaron, not who was the best player, but whose name specifically evokes the franchise; to me, you say Ed Mathews I think Braves, versus you say Aaron I think all-time home run king (intentionally ignoring Bonds))
Brewers - Robin Yount
Cardinals - Stan Musial
Cubs - Ernie Banks
Diamondbacks - Randy Johnson
Dodgers - Jackie Robinson
Expos - Gary Carter
Giants - Willie Mays
Indians - Bob Feller
Mariners - Ken Griffey Jr.
Marlins - Hanley Ramirez
Mets - Tom Seaver
Orioles - Brooks Robinson
Padres - Tony Gwynn
Phillies - Mike Schmidt
Pirates - Roberto Clemente
Rangers - Nolan Ryan
Rays - Evan Longoria
Reds - Pete Rose
Red Sox - Ted Williams
Rockies - Todd Helton
Royals - George Brett
Senators/Nationals - Walter Johnson
Tigers - Al Kaline
Twins - Harmon Killiebrew
White Sox - Frank Thomas
Yankees - Babe Ruth >>
I will put my 2¢ in on this
Braves- Aaron is my choice, he wore that uniform proudly for so many seasons and across many generations
Rockies- Larry Walker would be my choice here as he helped put the team on the map
Blue Jays- The WS homerun does put Joe Carter in the spotlight
Marlins- I would have to go a few years before Hanley, say Alex Gonzalez or Dontrelle Willis
and last but not least
Indians- Ricky "Wild Thing" Vaughn
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<< <i>Agreed. Molitor comes to mind as does Cecil Cooper. But you are on spot! >>
My heart would love to say Cooper. But my head says Yount.
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