Stolen" Coins, Bullion and Diamonds from Dealers Vehicle

mrearlygold

A Middlesex, New Jersey coin dealer's vehicle was burglarized and a briefcase containing over $15,000 in gold coins, silver bullion and diamonds was taken. Witnesses observed several Spanish males smash the rear window of the victim's vehicle and then escape in a green car.

Missing items include;

1808 $5 Half Eagle NGC AU58 578072-001
1853 2 1/2 Quarter Eagle raw
1944 Gold 100 Lire Vatican coin (only 1000 minted)
50 ounces mixed silver eagles raw and certified
10 oz NTR silver bar
20 oz silver generic bars (Morgan imprint)
Anyone with information should contact:

Doug Davis
817-723-7231
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org

TwoSides2aCoin

Moral corruption never takes a holiday.

Banemorth

Awful. Did this happen near his shop or at the show on Sunday?

AMRC

It would have been safer if he carried them in with him.

Wabbit2313

Another fool who leaves 15K sitting in his car, and they just happen to know what car to steal from? Whatever.

ricko

We see this over and over again. Is it the "It can't happen to me" syndrome? Or is it just plain carelessness? Simple precautions, well known to most of us, can prevent this. Cheers, RickO

mrearlygold

I would find it hard to believe that any insurance carrier would accept a claim on this kind of theft.

MrEureka

I would find it hard to believe that any insurance carrier would accept a claim on this kind of theft.

My policy, from one of the leading insurance companies serving our hobby/industry, will cover coins left unattended in the trunk of a car. They will also cover losses from an unattended hotel room, provided that the coins are hidden out of sight. This is their standard contract, not a special deal for me. In fact, I tried to convince them to eliminate that coverage, because it would lead to more losses and higher premiums for everybody down the road, but I got nowhere.

Oxenham

This seems to happen on a regular basis these days. I just can't believe anyone would leave $15,000 worth of rare coins in a car??????????????

At the next coin show someone needs to conduct a class for dealers on how to transport your coins.

Unbelievable!

SoCalBigMark

Better he gets hurt? Sheesh.

silverpop

always carry anything with a high value with you at all times if you can't then store them somewhere safe till you are ready to leave

this is not hard to understand and yet many dealers don't have common sense not to make them a target and end up robbed

sniocsu

Lets stop blaming the victim. What was done to this person was criminal. Thats that

johnny9434

keep an open eye for it. ill pass that along to a few dealers that i know.

northcoin

<< <i>Better he gets hurt? Sheesh. >>



+1 (This did occur in New Jersey where muggings are not unknown.) Curious though as to how the witnesses concluded the perpetrators were "Spanish" as opposed to Hispanic American or even illegal Mexicans.

giantsfan20

What an easy theft. Left in car in a briefcase that could have been taken with person or at least out of sight and put in trunk . Who
knows may or may not been a target just somebody who see a briefcase and decides to take it

ricko

<< <i>Lets stop blaming the victim. >>



Yes, it is a criminal act, but in this case, as in many others, the 'victim' neglected his personal responsibilities and therefore created a 'crime of opportunity'.
He IS to blame......
Cheers, RickO

Bankerbob56

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<< <i>Lets stop blaming the victim. >>



Yes, it is a criminal act, but in this case, as in many others, the 'victim' neglected his personal responsibilities and therefore created a 'crime of opportunity'.
He IS to blame......
Cheers, RickO >>



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crazyhounddog

Here we go again! Why in the heck would ANYONE leave big money in their car?

Frankcoins

<< <i>What an easy theft. Left in car in a briefcase that could have been taken with person or at least out of sight and put in trunk . Who
knows may or may not been a target just somebody who see a briefcase and decides to take it >>



My, we are so eager to blame the victim for not putting the briefcase "out of sight" or "in the trunk" yet there is
not enough information in the OP that the dealer failed to do either.

SUVs have no separate locking trunks, and cars that DO have trunks often have a "trunk release" that
can be accessed once the passenger compartment is entered. Later cars have an radio controlled trunk
release, but that is no problem since a rear deck speaker can be yanked out in a couple
of seconds, and a thief's arm can easily reach the emergency release that is inside the trunk intended to be
used if a child accidentally locks himself in the trunk.

But hey, the members here are always good with making ASSumptions....

"Spanish" males or "Spanish-speaking" males? Since Spanish males are WHITE and most Spanish SPEAKING
males in the US are BROWN, it DOES make a difference.

mrearlygold

<< <i>I would find it hard to believe that any insurance carrier would accept a claim on this kind of theft.

My policy, from one of the leading insurance companies serving our hobby/industry, will cover coins left unattended in the trunk of a car. They will also cover losses from an unattended hotel room, provided that the coins are hidden out of sight. This is their standard contract, not a special deal for me. In fact, I tried to convince them to eliminate that coverage, because it would lead to more losses and higher premiums for everybody down the road, but I got nowhere. >>




Hey Andy, per my insurance person:

See following taking from the web:

"In September, Janet Wolf, a 4566-year-old IT services consultant for Dell, returned to her locked room at the Hyatt in Houston's Galleria district to find her Toshiba laptop stolen, Forbes reported on Monday. Management for the hotel later concluded the thief accessed the room by exploiting a vulnerability in the electronic door lock provided by Onity. The exploit was unveiled at this year's Black Hat security conference in Las Vegas, and it affects some four million locks. It works by inserting the plug of a custom-made device into the port of an electronic lock to access the digital key that in turn accesses the opening mechanism".

I have a feeling that with this new technique, any Insurance Company that may be offering this coverage will soon re-think it. The thieves are finding all kinds of ways to beat the established practices.

PerryHall

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<< <i>I would find it hard to believe that any insurance carrier would accept a claim on this kind of theft.

My policy, from one of the leading insurance companies serving our hobby/industry, will cover coins left unattended in the trunk of a car. They will also cover losses from an unattended hotel room, provided that the coins are hidden out of sight. This is their standard contract, not a special deal for me. In fact, I tried to convince them to eliminate that coverage, because it would lead to more losses and higher premiums for everybody down the road, but I got nowhere. >>




Hey Andy, per my insurance person:

See following taking from the web:

"In September, Janet Wolf, a 4566-year-old IT services consultant for Dell, returned to her locked room at the Hyatt in Houston's Galleria district to find her Toshiba laptop stolen, Forbes reported on Monday. Management for the hotel later concluded the thief accessed the room by exploiting a vulnerability in the electronic door lock provided by Onity. The exploit was unveiled at this year's Black Hat security conference in Las Vegas, and it affects some four million locks. It works by inserting the plug of a custom-made device into the port of an electronic lock to access the digital key that in turn accesses the opening mechanism".

I have a feeling that with this new technique, any Insurance Company that may be offering this coverage will soon re-think it. The thieves are finding all kinds of ways to beat the established practices. >>



I'm surprised that Janet Wolf is still working and hasn't retired yet.

Cakes

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<< <i>

<< <i>I would find it hard to believe that any insurance carrier would accept a claim on this kind of theft.

My policy, from one of the leading insurance companies serving our hobby/industry, will cover coins left unattended in the trunk of a car. They will also cover losses from an unattended hotel room, provided that the coins are hidden out of sight. This is their standard contract, not a special deal for me. In fact, I tried to convince them to eliminate that coverage, because it would lead to more losses and higher premiums for everybody down the road, but I got nowhere. >>




Hey Andy, per my insurance person:

See following taking from the web:

"In September, Janet Wolf, a 4566-year-old IT services consultant for Dell, returned to her locked room at the Hyatt in Houston's Galleria district to find her Toshiba laptop stolen, Forbes reported on Monday. Management for the hotel later concluded the thief accessed the room by exploiting a vulnerability in the electronic door lock provided by Onity. The exploit was unveiled at this year's Black Hat security conference in Las Vegas, and it affects some four million locks. It works by inserting the plug of a custom-made device into the port of an electronic lock to access the digital key that in turn accesses the opening mechanism".

I have a feeling that with this new technique, any Insurance Company that may be offering this coverage will soon re-think it. The thieves are finding all kinds of ways to beat the established practices. >>



I'm surprised that Janet Wolf is still working and hasn't retired yet. >>



That got a chuckle out of me, ty.

Taylor101

Aww.. Poor guy. Sad face.
Taylor

pennyannie

I try not to advertise what i have in my vehicle or in my house at any given time but some of you think 15k is a lot, it is not. I am low on the totem pole but i do enjoy having a lot of my stuff at home or with me.

I get no joy out of looking at my stuff while the actual item sits in a SDB.

You got to get this stuff to and from where you are going. I have not studied the actual price my insurance is charging me but i have almost 100k in gun insurance and 100k in coins/jewelry seems it runs about 2000 a year, it may be more but a small price for peace of mind.

From my vette to the powerstroke all the keys are in them in the driveway. Smart? probably not but none have dissapeared in the last 30 plus years, maybe if i lived in a subdivision with zero lot lines i might feel different. Everyone has there own level of what they feel comfortable with having dollar wise in their home/possession.

I just got back from a 10 day (4200 mile one way trip to alaska) and everything was still here. Did not miss a minutes sleep worrying.

pennyannie

More times than not when there is a theft it is actually 2 seperate thefts. One is what was actually stolen and the second is what gets turned into the insurance company and the values placed on the items.