Soccer Card prices
eagles33
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I'm amazed how much soccer cards have been selling for lately. Pele cards from the 50s have always sold for pretty strong prices and actually seem to have cooled off a bit.. But the modern cards have increased dramatically. Particularly Ronaldo and Messi cards. Their Panini mega cracks rookie cards have sold for 293 in a bgs 9 Ronaldo and 1,300 for a PSA 10 Messi. You could have gotten these for a fraction of that just about a year ago. I think the tiger woods phenomenon really popularized golf cards in the early 2000's. Then modern Boxing and Wrestling cards really take off in price the past few years so... I wonder if tennis cards will ever follow suit. They are by far the cheapest of this group and seem to virtually zero following.
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Like I think you've mentioned before, I believe, it is a risky crapshoot on what condition your soccer cards arrive in when purchasing from European sellers, as they just don't seem to have very well-established condition standards on how their soccer cards are sold. I've picked up some where you couldn't really be sure if it would grade a 1 or a 10 before having it in hand due to surface issues.
<< <i>I'm amazed how much soccer cards have been selling for lately. Pele cards from the 50s have always sold for pretty strong prices and actually seem to have cooled off a bit.. But the modern cards have increased dramatically. Particularly Ronaldo and Messi cards. Their Panini mega cracks rookie cards have sold for 293 in a bgs 9 Ronaldo and 1,300 for a PSA 10 Messi. You could have gotten these for a fraction of that just about a year ago. I think the tiger woods phenomenon really popularized golf cards in the early 2000's. Then modern Boxing and Wrestling cards really take off in price the past few years so... I wonder if tennis cards will ever follow suit. They are by far the cheapest of this group and seem to virtually zero following. >>
As a big soccer fan, I have mixed feelings about this. I did not know Ronaldo was selling for that much. I acutally have my BGS 9 at PSA for a crossover attempt right now. I think I paid about $70 for it so seeing that the last one sold for almost $300 is something else. I wish the prices would have stayed down as I want to pick up a PSA 9 Messi as opposed to my mid grade one. I hope we don't see the huge run up on some of the other star players that are not mainstream names yet. This will allow me to pick up a few other players that my sons and I enjoy watching.
Maradona 1978 Figurita Crack Mundail
<< <i>I just got this card from Argentina. PSA doesn't grade them yet but I think it's an interesting card that's a year earlier than his 79 panini
Maradona 1978 Figurita Crack Mundail
. The 1979 panini is the oops you mean there are earlier cards rc. i have the charactiture 1978 crack maradona that was in the same album set as yours. There is a 1977 round poglike card as well when he was on argentinos juniors. Thats his first card. Kinda yellowish. Never seen one live or for sale. Someone about 2 years ago sold a 1978 argentinos juniors maradona on ebay but misidentified it as 1976. Went for BIN $100 raw in vg-ex and has a pic of him used a few times, especially in the 1979 super football set that has like 30 maradona cards.
I think this is the 77 disc
<< <i>So in your opinion a card can only be rectangular or square? >>
Yup that's my opinion. If I grew up in Argentina then my opinion might be that circles and rectangles are cards but under no circumstances would I ever consider a triangle a card. I would consider a rhombus a card but most likely miscut
<< <i>...I would consider a rhombus a card but most likely miscut >>
I wish there were rhombus cards. They'd be a pain trying to find sleeves/toploaders to fit them, but I'd have fun saying "rhombus" all the time.
<< <i>Interesting. Mind if I ask why you feel that way? >>
I grew up collecting 80s topps cards. That is what I would always consider a traditional card. I never considered the 7/11 discs cards or pogs cards... I considered them a different collectable. That's just my opinion..
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<< <i>So in your opinion a card can only be rectangular or square? >>
Yup that's my opinion. If I grew up in Argentina then my opinion might be that circles and rectangles are cards but under no circumstances would I ever consider a triangle a card. I would consider a rhombus a card but most likely miscut >>
What about parallelograms? I'm guessing a miscut also.....unless you tilt your head slightly like my dog when my cell phone vibrates on the coffee table.
If the Euro league love keeps growing over here, the card market will follow. There are plenty more guys to get excited about beyond Messi and CRonaldo.
<< <i>I've seen the 77 disc but wanted a more traditional looking card. This is his first traditional card that I know of... But that's not to say there are earlier ones that I just haven't seen yet.
I think this is the 77 disc
From my gaucho sources, that is his first image on cardboard. He was 16 or 17 there. Ill try and scan my Crack at some point to post it and no i wont be making lewd photocopies.
<< <i>There are plenty more guys to get excited about beyond Messi and CRonaldo. >>
Out of curiousity, who do you have in mind? There is a lot of good young talent in Europe right now, but no player outside of Neymar could reach the heights of Messi/CR7 imo.
I was interested in picking up a couple Topps MLS boxes this year, but they seem to be going for $90-100/box. It doesn't make sense to buy them for that much when the best card (Henry or Donovan insert) are only asking $20 return.
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<< <i>There are plenty more guys to get excited about beyond Messi and CRonaldo. >>
Out of curiousity, who do you have in mind? There is a lot of good young talent in Europe right now, but no player outside of Neymar could reach the heights of Messi/CR7 imo. >>
A few possibilities:
1) Gareth Bale, if he ends up at Real (which, oddly, is looking increasingly unlikely).
2) Jese or Morata if either can break into the Real 1st team in the next couple of years.
3) Cavani may end up being the most marketable player in Europe by 2015 if he can get PSG to the UCL semis.
4) Aguero will also see his star rise of City can finally get out of the UCL group stage and make a run through the knock-outs.
<< <i>^^ I just don't see it with those players listed. Messi & CR7 are far and away the best at their craft. Messi just turned 26 a couple months ago. Cavani is older than Messi. Aguero is only a 1 year younger and Bale is 2 years younger. If Bale was English, as opposed to Welsh.... he would be 10X more popular due to the inflated media that exists in England. I also don't think it's possible to have 2 uber superstars on the same team.... if Bale goes to Madrid. Someone's star is going to dim a little bit while the other will remain shining bright. >>
Cavani is four months older than Messi- so, yes, technically, he's older, but for all practical purposes they're the same age.
As for being the best at their craft, Lionel Messi is clearly the best footballer on the planet, and Ronaldo is probably second. However, that doesn't mean that there's no room to market a third player if the sport's popularity continues to increase here in the U.S. As for not having two uberstars on one team, I'm not sure what your definition of 'uber' is, but I think most of Europe would agree that Xavi, Iniesta, Serio Ramos, Xabi Alonso and Iker Casillas are incredibly popular footballers who have millions of fans worldwide. Sure, you don't these players' names and number on the backs of Madrid or Barca jerseys worn by kids at Six Flags, but that doesn't mean they aren't huge stars.
2009 Abril Gol Cards
<< <i>However, that doesn't mean that there's no room to market a third player if the sport's popularity continues to increase here in the U.S. As for not having two uberstars on one team, I'm not sure what your definition of 'uber' is, but I think most of Europe would agree that Xavi, Iniesta, Serio Ramos, Xabi Alonso and Iker Casillas are incredibly popular footballers who have millions of fans worldwide. Sure, you don't these players' names and number on the backs of Madrid or Barca jerseys worn by kids at Six Flags, but that doesn't mean they aren't huge stars. >>
Point well made here, and this is what I was getting at earlier. It's not about finding the next Messi or CR7.
In addition to the elite talent, US fans root for underdogs and prospects and even defensive players (GASP!!). There is plenty of room for the second and third tier talents to expand the worldwide fanbase. And if there was a really slick-looking iconic set of cards that had a nice mix of rookies, starters, stars, gimmick cards (autos, jerseys, short prints) featuring all the top teams in the top leagues in the world plus national team-bases subsets, I'd be hard pressed not to get into that myself.
It's going to happen eventually. I'm skeptical Panini is going to be the one to get it right, though. I just don't think the quality is there.
<< <i>I'm still amazed at the prices of some of these soccer cards. The 2003 mega craques Robaldo is selling for over 500 in a psa 9 and 300 raw. This was a 40-50 dollar card for a long time. The 04 Messi is still selling at high prices too. There definitely seems to be some big buyers in soccer cards. Anymore thoughts on the next big name in the sport? >>
Just like the other sports, there are always new rookies who are proclaimed to be the next big thing. I would suggest checking the leading scoring rookies in each of the big leagues and cross-reference that with who among them look to be earning roster spots on their respective nations' World Cup rosters. If a young player is scoring big and also makes a high profile team for international play by beating out some of the more established veterans, he's probably worth a pickup while the cards aren't much cost investment yet.