<< <i>Any coins imported from Cuba today are illegal. It doesn't matter when they were minted. No Cuban coin in the US is necessarily here ibn violation of the ban. A recent issue that came by way of another country is legal to own and trade here. eBay is wrong and the proposed remedy is wrong. >>
So, you believe if the coin travels from Cuba straight to USA it's illegal, but if it goes first to Mexico and then into USA it's legal? How do you propose identifying which is which? Also, I did not see a remedy in the letter. Only a request for eBay to adhere to it's own policies.
edit: PS: I guess this makes sense, after all the 1933 Saint Gaudens traveled to Egypt before entering USA and it was declared legal
<< <i>Any coins imported from Cuba today are illegal. It doesn't matter when they were minted. No Cuban coin in the US is necessarily here ibn violation of the ban. A recent issue that came by way of another country is legal to own and trade here. eBay is wrong and the proposed remedy is wrong. >>
So, you believe if the coin travels from Cuba straight to USA it's illegal, but if it goes first to Mexico and then into USA it's legal? How do you propose identifying which is which? Also, I did not see a remedy in the letter. Only a request for eBay to adhere to it's own policies.
edit: PS: I guess this makes sense, after all the 1933 Saint Gaudens traveled to Egypt before entering USA and it was declared legal >>
I made the error of starting to look up the appropriate laws but this would be fruitless since the laws will be written in legalese which can and will be interpreted differently by each person. Hence the legal profession.
Generally, laws are intended to be a common sense means of accomplishing some specific goal and this applies especially to laws affecting relations with other countries. The purpose of this law is to prevent Cuba from profiting in trade with the US and not to deny the very existyence of the country or its heritage. A great deal if Cuba's imports actually come from the US which is an absurdity in itself since it obviously profits on such imports but they are immune because the embargo is against exports of raw materials, finished products, and services rather than their cash. The embargo is largely due to the nationalization of a large amount of US property and also as a means to punish them for the lack of individual and civil rights of the people.
The embargo is to halt trade. It would not be legal for instance to tranship Cuban cigars through Mexico for delivery in this country. It is illegal to ship anything here directly in most instances. It is not illegal to be a Cuban or Cuban American born after 1946. It is not illegal to have a picture of Fidel Castro though most would consider it to be in bad taste.
If the embargo is so important that even coins coming in from Canada and Europe are illegal than there should be a total blackout of the island and companies shouldn't be accepting their cash either. If older coins are given a legal status than how long before the Cuban banks start selling their old souvenir Pesos on eBay? This is the very point of the embargo; to prevent them from profiting. They can profit from selling old coins but they won't profit when a coin collector picks up modern aluminum in Canada and then sells it on eBay.
This idiotic rule that has nothing to do with law hurts AMERICANS not CUBA. This is so inane one might suspect that it was inspired by Castro himself to highlight the ineffectiveness and inequality of the law.
I suppose next Rand McNally will be removing Cuba from all the maps and globes. Who are we trying to hurt?
If importing Cuban cash isn't illegal, then couldn't one argue that all Cuban circulation strikes and banknotes are cash? Just because some Americans believe that cash has numismatic value, doesn't change the fact that it's cash and not "raw materials" or "finished goods." I could see an argument against proof strikes and mint sets but not business-strike pesos. Selling someone a dollar for five dollars has never been illegal, either so who cares how much value is placed on the coins on eBay? When they left Cuba they were only worth face value.
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<< <i>Any coins imported from Cuba today are illegal. It doesn't matter when they were minted. No Cuban coin in the US is necessarily here ibn violation of the ban. A recent issue that came by way of another country is legal to own and trade here. eBay is wrong and the
proposed remedy is wrong. >>
So, you believe if the coin travels from Cuba straight to USA it's illegal, but if it goes first to Mexico and then into USA it's legal? How do you propose identifying which is which?
Also, I did not see a remedy in the letter. Only a request for eBay to adhere to it's own policies.
edit: PS: I guess this makes sense, after all the 1933 Saint Gaudens traveled to Egypt before entering USA and it was declared legal
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<< <i>Any coins imported from Cuba today are illegal. It doesn't matter when they were minted. No Cuban coin in the US is necessarily here ibn violation of the ban. A recent issue that came by way of another country is legal to own and trade here. eBay is wrong and the
proposed remedy is wrong. >>
So, you believe if the coin travels from Cuba straight to USA it's illegal, but if it goes first to Mexico and then into USA it's legal? How do you propose identifying which is which?
Also, I did not see a remedy in the letter. Only a request for eBay to adhere to it's own policies.
edit: PS: I guess this makes sense, after all the 1933 Saint Gaudens traveled to Egypt before entering USA and it was declared legal
I made the error of starting to look up the appropriate laws but this would be fruitless
since the laws will be written in legalese which can and will be interpreted differently by
each person. Hence the legal profession.
Generally, laws are intended to be a common sense means of accomplishing some specific
goal and this applies especially to laws affecting relations with other countries. The purpose
of this law is to prevent Cuba from profiting in trade with the US and not to deny the very
existyence of the country or its heritage. A great deal if Cuba's imports actually come from
the US which is an absurdity in itself since it obviously profits on such imports but they are
immune because the embargo is against exports of raw materials, finished products, and
services rather than their cash. The embargo is largely due to the nationalization of a large
amount of US property and also as a means to punish them for the lack of individual and
civil rights of the people.
The embargo is to halt trade. It would not be legal for instance to tranship Cuban cigars through
Mexico for delivery in this country. It is illegal to ship anything here directly in most instances.
It is not illegal to be a Cuban or Cuban American born after 1946. It is not illegal to have a
picture of Fidel Castro though most would consider it to be in bad taste.
If the embargo is so important that even coins coming in from Canada and Europe are illegal
than there should be a total blackout of the island and companies shouldn't be accepting their
cash either. If older coins are given a legal status than how long before the Cuban banks start
selling their old souvenir Pesos on eBay? This is the very point of the embargo; to prevent them
from profiting. They can profit from selling old coins but they won't profit when a coin collector
picks up modern aluminum in Canada and then sells it on eBay.
This idiotic rule that has nothing to do with law hurts AMERICANS not CUBA. This is so inane one
might suspect that it was inspired by Castro himself to highlight the ineffectiveness and inequality
of the law.
I suppose next Rand McNally will be removing Cuba from all the maps and globes. Who are we
trying to hurt?
Just because some Americans believe that cash has numismatic value, doesn't change the fact that it's cash and not "raw materials" or "finished goods."
I could see an argument against proof strikes and mint sets but not business-strike pesos. Selling someone a dollar for five dollars has never been illegal, either so who cares how much value is placed on the coins on eBay? When they left Cuba they were only worth face value.
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