My local B&M with whom I've had a 20 year relationship with told me they've been chocking on PM's since about March of this year. Buyers have all but dried up. I sold him some platinum a few months ago and he grumbled "i hate catching this falling knife".
<< <i>My local B&M with whom I've had a 20 year relationship with told me they've been chocking on PM's since about March of this year. Buyers have all but dried up. I sold him some platinum a few months ago and he grumbled "i hate catching this falling knife". >>
I think sellers could unload a ton of PM's if they lowered their premiums to pre run up levels. I used to be able to buy silver eagles for spot +2 all day long before the run up. Now a good deal is spot +4. Doesn't make sense to me. Look at the prices on eBay. The premiums are out of hand in my opinion. I have bought 3 ounces of silver this year that I can remember and they were all 2014 silver eagles to give as gifts. Other than that, I refuse to pay a huge premium. I guess it has saved me from investing in something that is falling off a cliff. Maybe I should be thanking the sellers for keeping such an unreasonable premium.
Tell your local B&M to sell those PM's on eBay with a reasonable premium and see how long they last
<< <i>My local B&M with whom I've had a 20 year relationship with told me they've been chocking on PM's since about March of this year. Buyers have all but dried up. I sold him some platinum a few months ago and he grumbled "i hate catching this falling knife". >>
I think sellers could unload a ton of PM's if they lowered their premiums to pre run up levels. I used to be able to buy silver eagles for spot +2 all day long before the run up. Now a good deal is spot +4. Doesn't make sense to me. Look at the prices on eBay. The premiums are out of hand in my opinion. I have bought 3 ounces of silver this year that I can remember and they were all 2014 silver eagles to give as gifts. Other than that, I refuse to pay a huge premium. I guess it has saved me from investing in something that is falling off a cliff. Maybe I should be thanking the sellers for keeping such an unreasonable premium.
Tell your local B&M to sell those PM's on eBay with a reasonable premium and see how long they last
<< <i>My local B&M with whom I've had a 20 year relationship with told me they've been chocking on PM's since about March of this year. Buyers have all but dried up. I sold him some platinum a few months ago and he grumbled "i hate catching this falling knife". >>
I think sellers could unload a ton of PM's if they lowered their premiums to pre run up levels. I used to be able to buy silver eagles for spot +2 all day long before the run up. Now a good deal is spot +4. Doesn't make sense to me. Look at the prices on eBay. The premiums are out of hand in my opinion. I have bought 3 ounces of silver this year that I can remember and they were all 2014 silver eagles to give as gifts. Other than that, I refuse to pay a huge premium. I guess it has saved me from investing in something that is falling off a cliff. Maybe I should be thanking the sellers for keeping such an unreasonable premium.
Tell your local B&M to sell those PM's on eBay with a reasonable premium and see how long they last >>
You quoted my post but i didn't say anything about premiums on the sell side. This thread is about "new" buyers. Since you mentioned it, my dealer's ASE sell price is spot +$2 and that hasn't changed since 2011.
<< <i>My local B&M with whom I've had a 20 year relationship with told me they've been chocking on PM's since about March of this year. Buyers have all but dried up. I sold him some platinum a few months ago and he grumbled "i hate catching this falling knife". >>
I think sellers could unload a ton of PM's if they lowered their premiums to pre run up levels. I used to be able to buy silver eagles for spot +2 all day long before the run up. Now a good deal is spot +4. Doesn't make sense to me. Look at the prices on eBay. The premiums are out of hand in my opinion. I have bought 3 ounces of silver this year that I can remember and they were all 2014 silver eagles to give as gifts. Other than that, I refuse to pay a huge premium. I guess it has saved me from investing in something that is falling off a cliff. Maybe I should be thanking the sellers for keeping such an unreasonable premium.
Tell your local B&M to sell those PM's on eBay with a reasonable premium and see how long they last >>
You quoted my post but i didn't say anything about premiums on the sell side. This thread is about "new" buyers. Since you mentioned it, my dealer's ASE sell price is spot +$2 and that hasn't changed since 2011. >>
Awesome! Why don't they put them on eBay and sell them then?
<< <i>My local B&M with whom I've had a 20 year relationship with told me they've been chocking on PM's since about March of this year. Buyers have all but dried up. I sold him some platinum a few months ago and he grumbled "i hate catching this falling knife". >>
I think sellers could unload a ton of PM's if they lowered their premiums to pre run up levels. I used to be able to buy silver eagles for spot +2 all day long before the run up. Now a good deal is spot +4. Doesn't make sense to me. Look at the prices on eBay. The premiums are out of hand in my opinion. I have bought 3 ounces of silver this year that I can remember and they were all 2014 silver eagles to give as gifts. Other than that, I refuse to pay a huge premium. I guess it has saved me from investing in something that is falling off a cliff. Maybe I should be thanking the sellers for keeping such an unreasonable premium.
Tell your local B&M to sell those PM's on eBay with a reasonable premium and see how long they last >>
You quoted my post but i didn't say anything about premiums on the sell side. This thread is about "new" buyers. Since you mentioned it, my dealer's ASE sell price is spot +$2 and that hasn't changed since 2011. >>
That's an exceptional low price for a dealer, considering that the Mint charges $2 above spot.
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
<< <i>Awesome! Why don't they put them on eBay and sell them then? >>
<< <i>That's an exceptional low price for a dealer, considering that the Mint charges $2 above spot. >>
Where is Rawteam1 when you need him. This third generation business has never purchased anything from the mint. They're in the business of making money, not holding metal.
<< <i>My local B&M with whom I've had a 20 year relationship with told me they've been chocking on PM's since about March of this year. Buyers have all but dried up. I sold him some platinum a few months ago and he grumbled "i hate catching this falling knife". >>
I think sellers could unload a ton of PM's if they lowered their premiums to pre run up levels. I used to be able to buy silver eagles for spot +2 all day long before the run up. Now a good deal is spot +4. Doesn't make sense to me. Look at the prices on eBay. The premiums are out of hand in my opinion. I have bought 3 ounces of silver this year that I can remember and they were all 2014 silver eagles to give as gifts. Other than that, I refuse to pay a huge premium. I guess it has saved me from investing in something that is falling off a cliff. Maybe I should be thanking the sellers for keeping such an unreasonable premium.
Tell your local B&M to sell those PM's on eBay with a reasonable premium and see how long they last >>
You quoted my post but i didn't say anything about premiums on the sell side. This thread is about "new" buyers. Since you mentioned it, my dealer's ASE sell price is spot +$2 and that hasn't changed since 2011. >>
That's an exceptional low price for a dealer, considering that the Mint charges $2 above spot. >>
His local dealer is obviously not buying his ASEs from the bullion houses either. The only way to sell ASEs for $2 over spot is to buy them from suckers at $2 or lower below spot.
After the price falls on silver over the past two years, buyers seem to have wanted to take of advantage of the price decline and jump back in. In fact the last run back to 20 after it hit like 18 even saw a few buyers start buying again. However, this time I just don't see buyers eager to buy at current levels ,I have herd many say its probably going to sell off more, or its just not doing anything now(sideways action), or they see little upside.
i am in contact with show dealers, flea market dealers, local shop owners, my own customers and I am hearing the same thing.
I might add: There are a lot of people around here (hoarders/collectors, etc) that are sitting in huge amounts of silver at 22-28 per oz. there are a few in the 30's, but I know of several who have like 500-1000 oz at these levels and anywhere from 2500 face to 5k face of 90% at those levels.
<< <i>After the price falls on silver over the past two years, buyers seem to have wanted to take of advantage of the price decline and jump back in. In fact the last run back to 20 after it hit like 18 even saw a few buyers start buying again. However, this time I just don't see buyers eager to buy at current levels ,I have herd many say its probably going to sell off more, or its just not doing anything now(sideways action), or they see little upside.
i am in contact with show dealers, flea market dealers, local shop owners, my own customers and I am hearing the same thing.
I might add: There are a lot of people around here (hoarders/collectors, etc) that are sitting in huge amounts of silver at 22-28 per oz. there are a few in the 30's, but I know of several who have like 500-1000 oz at these levels and anywhere from 2500 face to 5k face of 90% at those levels. >>
As long as they don't HAVE to sell. Whether it makes sense to try to dollar cost average down when or if silver goes to $15 only they can decide.
<< <i>After the price falls on silver over the past two years, buyers seem to have wanted to take of advantage of the price decline and jump back in. In fact the last run back to 20 after it hit like 18 even saw a few buyers start buying again. However, this time I just don't see buyers eager to buy at current levels ,I have herd many say its probably going to sell off more, or its just not doing anything now(sideways action), or they see little upside.
i am in contact with show dealers, flea market dealers, local shop owners, my own customers and I am hearing the same thing.
I might add: There are a lot of people around here (hoarders/collectors, etc) that are sitting in huge amounts of silver at 22-28 per oz. there are a few in the 30's, but I know of several who have like 500-1000 oz at these levels and anywhere from 2500 face to 5k face of 90% at those levels. >>
Maybe there are some buyers, but they're getting wiser and buying from the bullion houses instead of the higher premium B & Ms or whomever.
I went to my favorite B&M yesterday to get a buff and some 1/10ths. Chatted about the situation. He said nobody is selling and traffic is way down. What traffic he has are buyers. His gold bullion inventory is down to where he is just selling what he can get from the mint (probably translates to say he is buried in this stuff). He has some numismatic gold but his bullion stock is low. Fortunately, he had what I was looking for. Traffic was so quiet that he was sorting through a coffee can full of Indian head cents pulling out the slicks. Whatever his strategy, it was 11:00 am and I was the only customer in the store. I've been there when metal was moving and the line was out the door. Interesting times since he has a staff of about 7 people and all God's children have to eat and I doubt my purchase fed many of them.
We talked about the gold numismatic market a little and he said the rarer stuff is going through the roof and the regular collector stuff is just sitting and the prices on run of the mill numismatic gold is very soft. He had a case full of slabbed common saints and libs but no action. He suggested watching the auction houses to see if there might be some deals on harder to find pre '33 but he said that if anything good comes in the store that he has a list on his cell phone and it is out the door pretty quick which sounded like I'm not on the list.
Oh well, interesting times indeed.
That's the local news, we now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
<< <i>My brother asked me what a monster box was yesterday. I told him it's a coffin for terrorists. >>
I'm slow ? >>
Monster box is the slang name for the large sealed plastic boxes of ASE's as they come from the mint. They contain 25 tubes of 20 ASE's each for a total of 500 ASE's.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
<< <i>My brother asked me what a monster box was yesterday. I told him it's a coffin for terrorists. >>
I'm slow ? >>
Monster box is the slang name for the large sealed plastic boxes of ASE's as they come from the mint. They contain 25 tubes of 20 ASE's each for a total of 500 ASE's. >>
@derryb said:
PMs will not get the attention of new buyers until their rising price makes the headlines.
I usually shake my head in disbelieve over most of your posts and it's not often that I've agreed with you in the past. However, this time you hit the nail on the head.
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
@derryb said:
PMs will not get the attention of new buyers until their rising price makes the headlines.
I usually shake my head in disbelieve over most of your posts and it's not often that I've agreed with you in the past. However, this time you hit the nail on the head.
@derryb said:
PMs will not get the attention of new buyers until their rising price makes the headlines.
I usually shake my head in disbelieve over most of your posts and it's not often that I've agreed with you in the past. However, this time you hit the nail on the head.
Time will make you more agreeable.
Yes, eventually PMs will rise, but it won't be due to any of the lies you perpetuate.
@derryb said:
PMs will not get the attention of new buyers until their rising price makes the headlines.
I usually shake my head in disbelieve over most of your posts and it's not often that I've agreed with you in the past. However, this time you hit the nail on the head.
Time will make you more agreeable.
Yes, eventually PMs will rise, but it won't be due to any of the lies you perpetuate.
Can you give us a few examples of those lies?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
@derryb said:
PMs will not get the attention of new buyers until their rising price makes the headlines.
I usually shake my head in disbelieve over most of your posts and it's not often that I've agreed with you in the past. However, this time you hit the nail on the head.
Time will make you more agreeable.
Yes, eventually PMs will rise, but it won't be due to any of the lies you perpetuate.
@derryb said:
PMs will not get the attention of new buyers until their rising price makes the headlines.
I usually shake my head in disbelieve over most of your posts and it's not often that I've agreed with you in the past. However, this time you hit the nail on the head.
Time will make you more agreeable.
Yes, eventually PMs will rise, but it won't be due to any of the lies you perpetuate.
@derryb said:
PMs will not get the attention of new buyers until their rising price makes the headlines.
I usually shake my head in disbelieve over most of your posts and it's not often that I've agreed with you in the past. However, this time you hit the nail on the head.
Time will make you more agreeable.
Yes, eventually PMs will rise, but it won't be due to any of the lies you perpetuate.
PMs rise because there is a growing lack of confidence in the currency in which they are priced. I will continue to perpetuate this fact until you see it proven with your currency as it has been proven to countless foreigners with a pocketful of failing currency.
Confidence is based on perception. Perception is often based on what someone wants you to believe. My perpetuations are lies only to those who blindly believe the opposing "truth." Some are perfectly happy with the temporary comfort provided by a "false truth," others are not. Live and let live.
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Buyers have all but dried up. I sold him some platinum a few months ago and he grumbled "i hate catching this falling knife".
<< <i>My local B&M with whom I've had a 20 year relationship with told me they've been chocking on PM's since about March of this year.
Buyers have all but dried up. I sold him some platinum a few months ago and he grumbled "i hate catching this falling knife". >>
I think sellers could unload a ton of PM's if they lowered their premiums to pre run up levels. I used to be able to buy silver eagles for spot +2 all day long before the run up. Now a good deal is spot +4. Doesn't make sense to me. Look at the prices on eBay. The premiums are out of hand in my opinion. I have bought 3 ounces of silver this year that I can remember and they were all 2014 silver eagles to give as gifts. Other than that, I refuse to pay a huge premium. I guess it has saved me from investing in something that is falling off a cliff. Maybe I should be thanking the sellers for keeping such an unreasonable premium.
Tell your local B&M to sell those PM's on eBay with a reasonable premium and see how long they last
<< <i>My local B&M with whom I've had a 20 year relationship with told me they've been chocking on PM's since about March of this year.
Buyers have all but dried up. I sold him some platinum a few months ago and he grumbled "i hate catching this falling knife". >>
I think sellers could unload a ton of PM's if they lowered their premiums to pre run up levels. I used to be able to buy silver eagles for spot +2 all day long before the run up. Now a good deal is spot +4. Doesn't make sense to me. Look at the prices on eBay. The premiums are out of hand in my opinion. I have bought 3 ounces of silver this year that I can remember and they were all 2014 silver eagles to give as gifts. Other than that, I refuse to pay a huge premium. I guess it has saved me from investing in something that is falling off a cliff. Maybe I should be thanking the sellers for keeping such an unreasonable premium.
Tell your local B&M to sell those PM's on eBay with a reasonable premium and see how long they last
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<< <i>My local B&M with whom I've had a 20 year relationship with told me they've been chocking on PM's since about March of this year.
Buyers have all but dried up. I sold him some platinum a few months ago and he grumbled "i hate catching this falling knife". >>
I think sellers could unload a ton of PM's if they lowered their premiums to pre run up levels. I used to be able to buy silver eagles for spot +2 all day long before the run up. Now a good deal is spot +4. Doesn't make sense to me. Look at the prices on eBay. The premiums are out of hand in my opinion. I have bought 3 ounces of silver this year that I can remember and they were all 2014 silver eagles to give as gifts. Other than that, I refuse to pay a huge premium. I guess it has saved me from investing in something that is falling off a cliff. Maybe I should be thanking the sellers for keeping such an unreasonable premium.
Tell your local B&M to sell those PM's on eBay with a reasonable premium and see how long they last
You quoted my post but i didn't say anything about premiums on the sell side. This thread is about "new" buyers.
Since you mentioned it, my dealer's ASE sell price is spot +$2 and that hasn't changed since 2011.
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<< <i>My local B&M with whom I've had a 20 year relationship with told me they've been chocking on PM's since about March of this year.
Buyers have all but dried up. I sold him some platinum a few months ago and he grumbled "i hate catching this falling knife". >>
I think sellers could unload a ton of PM's if they lowered their premiums to pre run up levels. I used to be able to buy silver eagles for spot +2 all day long before the run up. Now a good deal is spot +4. Doesn't make sense to me. Look at the prices on eBay. The premiums are out of hand in my opinion. I have bought 3 ounces of silver this year that I can remember and they were all 2014 silver eagles to give as gifts. Other than that, I refuse to pay a huge premium. I guess it has saved me from investing in something that is falling off a cliff. Maybe I should be thanking the sellers for keeping such an unreasonable premium.
Tell your local B&M to sell those PM's on eBay with a reasonable premium and see how long they last
You quoted my post but i didn't say anything about premiums on the sell side. This thread is about "new" buyers.
Since you mentioned it, my dealer's ASE sell price is spot +$2 and that hasn't changed since 2011. >>
Awesome! Why don't they put them on eBay and sell them then?
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<< <i>My local B&M with whom I've had a 20 year relationship with told me they've been chocking on PM's since about March of this year.
Buyers have all but dried up. I sold him some platinum a few months ago and he grumbled "i hate catching this falling knife". >>
I think sellers could unload a ton of PM's if they lowered their premiums to pre run up levels. I used to be able to buy silver eagles for spot +2 all day long before the run up. Now a good deal is spot +4. Doesn't make sense to me. Look at the prices on eBay. The premiums are out of hand in my opinion. I have bought 3 ounces of silver this year that I can remember and they were all 2014 silver eagles to give as gifts. Other than that, I refuse to pay a huge premium. I guess it has saved me from investing in something that is falling off a cliff. Maybe I should be thanking the sellers for keeping such an unreasonable premium.
Tell your local B&M to sell those PM's on eBay with a reasonable premium and see how long they last
You quoted my post but i didn't say anything about premiums on the sell side. This thread is about "new" buyers.
Since you mentioned it, my dealer's ASE sell price is spot +$2 and that hasn't changed since 2011. >>
That's an exceptional low price for a dealer, considering that the Mint charges $2 above spot.
<< <i>Awesome! Why don't they put them on eBay and sell them then? >>
<< <i>That's an exceptional low price for a dealer, considering that the Mint charges $2 above spot. >>
Where is Rawteam1 when you need him. This third generation business has never purchased anything from the mint.
They're in the business of making money, not holding metal.
So, who are the new buyers of precious metals?
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<< <i>My local B&M with whom I've had a 20 year relationship with told me they've been chocking on PM's since about March of this year.
Buyers have all but dried up. I sold him some platinum a few months ago and he grumbled "i hate catching this falling knife". >>
I think sellers could unload a ton of PM's if they lowered their premiums to pre run up levels. I used to be able to buy silver eagles for spot +2 all day long before the run up. Now a good deal is spot +4. Doesn't make sense to me. Look at the prices on eBay. The premiums are out of hand in my opinion. I have bought 3 ounces of silver this year that I can remember and they were all 2014 silver eagles to give as gifts. Other than that, I refuse to pay a huge premium. I guess it has saved me from investing in something that is falling off a cliff. Maybe I should be thanking the sellers for keeping such an unreasonable premium.
Tell your local B&M to sell those PM's on eBay with a reasonable premium and see how long they last
You quoted my post but i didn't say anything about premiums on the sell side. This thread is about "new" buyers.
Since you mentioned it, my dealer's ASE sell price is spot +$2 and that hasn't changed since 2011. >>
That's an exceptional low price for a dealer, considering that the Mint charges $2 above spot. >>
His local dealer is obviously not buying his ASEs from the bullion houses either. The only way to sell ASEs for $2 over spot is to buy them from suckers at $2 or lower below spot.
MY COINS FOR SALE AT https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/other/bajjerfans-coins-sale/3876
i am in contact with show dealers, flea market dealers, local shop owners, my own customers and I am hearing the same thing.
I might add: There are a lot of people around here (hoarders/collectors, etc) that are sitting in huge amounts of silver at 22-28 per oz. there are a few in the 30's, but I know of several who have like 500-1000 oz at these levels and anywhere from 2500 face to 5k face of 90% at those levels.
<< <i>After the price falls on silver over the past two years, buyers seem to have wanted to take of advantage of the price decline and jump back in. In fact the last run back to 20 after it hit like 18 even saw a few buyers start buying again. However, this time I just don't see buyers eager to buy at current levels ,I have herd many say its probably going to sell off more, or its just not doing anything now(sideways action), or they see little upside.
i am in contact with show dealers, flea market dealers, local shop owners, my own customers and I am hearing the same thing.
I might add: There are a lot of people around here (hoarders/collectors, etc) that are sitting in huge amounts of silver at 22-28 per oz. there are a few in the 30's, but I know of several who have like 500-1000 oz at these levels and anywhere from 2500 face to 5k face of 90% at those levels. >>
As long as they don't HAVE to sell. Whether it makes sense to try to dollar cost average down when or if silver goes to $15 only they can decide.
MY COINS FOR SALE AT https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/other/bajjerfans-coins-sale/3876
<< <i>After the price falls on silver over the past two years, buyers seem to have wanted to take of advantage of the price decline and jump back in. In fact the last run back to 20 after it hit like 18 even saw a few buyers start buying again. However, this time I just don't see buyers eager to buy at current levels ,I have herd many say its probably going to sell off more, or its just not doing anything now(sideways action), or they see little upside.
i am in contact with show dealers, flea market dealers, local shop owners, my own customers and I am hearing the same thing.
I might add: There are a lot of people around here (hoarders/collectors, etc) that are sitting in huge amounts of silver at 22-28 per oz. there are a few in the 30's, but I know of several who have like 500-1000 oz at these levels and anywhere from 2500 face to 5k face of 90% at those levels. >>
Maybe there are some buyers, but they're getting wiser and buying from the bullion houses instead of the higher premium B & Ms or whomever.
MY COINS FOR SALE AT https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/other/bajjerfans-coins-sale/3876
We talked about the gold numismatic market a little and he said the rarer stuff is going through the roof and the regular collector stuff is just sitting and the prices on run of the mill numismatic gold is very soft. He had a case full of slabbed common saints and libs but no action. He suggested watching the auction houses to see if there might be some deals on harder to find pre '33 but he said that if anything good comes in the store that he has a list on his cell phone and it is out the door pretty quick which sounded like I'm not on the list.
Oh well, interesting times indeed.
That's the local news, we now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
<< <i>My brother asked me what a monster box was yesterday. I told him it's a coffin for terrorists. >>
I'm slow
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<< <i>My brother asked me what a monster box was yesterday. I told him it's a coffin for terrorists. >>
I'm slow
Monster box is the slang name for the large sealed plastic boxes of ASE's as they come from the mint. They contain 25 tubes of 20 ASE's each for a total of 500 ASE's.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
MY COINS FOR SALE AT https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/other/bajjerfans-coins-sale/3876
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
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<< <i>My brother asked me what a monster box was yesterday. I told him it's a coffin for terrorists. >>
I'm slow
I believe he is referring to the Silver / Tomahawk missle analogy...
It's all about what the people want...
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I like those sleek rounded corners.
And all those Eagles in flight… To answer the question : where are the new buyers ?
Just around the corner.
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<< <i>My brother asked me what a monster box was yesterday. I told him it's a coffin for terrorists. >>
I'm slow
Monster box is the slang name for the large sealed plastic boxes of ASE's as they come from the mint. They contain 25 tubes of 20 ASE's each for a total of 500 ASE's. >>
Got it.
A monster box is about the size and shape of a large shoebox?
Another blast from the past
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
PMs will not get the attention of new buyers until their rising price makes the headlines.
At this point many of the new buyers will be the old sellers.
Give Me Liberty or Give Me Debt
I usually shake my head in disbelieve over most of your posts and it's not often that I've agreed with you in the past. However, this time you hit the nail on the head.
Time will make you more agreeable.
Give Me Liberty or Give Me Debt
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Give Me Liberty or Give Me Debt
Yes, eventually PMs will rise, but it won't be due to any of the lies you perpetuate.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Can you give us a few examples of those lies?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
https://forums.collectors.com/categories/precious-metals
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Give Me Liberty or Give Me Debt
PMs rise because there is a growing lack of confidence in the currency in which they are priced. I will continue to perpetuate this fact until you see it proven with your currency as it has been proven to countless foreigners with a pocketful of failing currency.
Confidence is based on perception. Perception is often based on what someone wants you to believe. My perpetuations are lies only to those who blindly believe the opposing "truth." Some are perfectly happy with the temporary comfort provided by a "false truth," others are not. Live and let live.
Give Me Liberty or Give Me Debt
Dips for dipping. Wading , swimming, splashing.