Suffice to say the opening bids will be a distant memory by the time the auction is closed..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
The '53 Bowman pack almost certainly was the GAI 5 pack from Mastro in '07. I ran it to almost $9K but dropped out. The '58 pack ended up about where I thought given it's scarcity, the pack that surprised me was the '52 Bowman, which went really high considering.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
I had all the SCP packs on my watch list but didn't make a real run on any of them because of my lack of knowledge regarding pre-1970s wax. I was very surprised by the 1958, not knowing anything beyond SMR. Isn't $14K+ the second-highest price ever paid for an unopened pack?
I was pretty upset when my PSA 9 1972 Topps 6th series got gum tears in it due to the holder design. Looking at how the 1957 Topps sold for about 1/3 of SMR because of the same problem, while most other packs were 2x or higher SMR, I realize it could have been a lot worse. Here's a link to the 1957. SMR of $3500. Sold for $1300. Ouch. I was tempted, but spent my money elsewhere. 1957 Topps Wax Pack
I know SMR is tits on a bull for cards but is it also tits on a bull for unopened packs? Seems like some of those packs are either unique or extremely hard to find so SMR would probably be tits on a bulls for those no matter what.
SMR is way, way off on most, if not all, '50's packs. Sometimes less than 25% of their real value. There have been several packs that have sold in excess of $15k in the last 6 years, albeit in private sales. A '56 nickel pack would certainly be near $20k at this point.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
amazing price on the '53 Bowman Color. I wanted it to complete a run of Bowman packs(have '52 in PSA-7, '54 and '55 in GAI slabs from many moons ago)....but dropped out after it hit over$4,000.
Never thought that it would go for over $10K. Crazy--but in 20 years of collecting unopened--this is the 1st '53 Bowman Color I have seen for auction that I can recall.
The '58-no surprise--been about 6 years since the last public auction I think.
Berk Ross is fairly easy, and not a very popular set. Price was about right. Manny, I"m 99% sure this is the same '53 pack from the '07 Mastro. That one had a lot of gum powder in the holder and was a GAI 5, this one is a PSA 3 but has the same folds and stains as the other one. There was also a different '53 pack in a catalog auction about '97. It was pretty hammered as well. I already have a full run of Topps packs so wasn't in the running for the '58.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
I've got a gai 7.5 (old school gai ie first generation flip) with Frank malzone on the front; I think I paid around $600 for it about five years ago; packcollector can speak better to this than I can because I bought it from him....Duncan, earth to Duncan, come in Duncan (or maybe I should just text him)
I remember subscribing to Sports Collectors Digest in the 90's, and it seems like the vintage pack market then vs now....like night and day.
-A pack like '52 bowman was quote "easy". Easy in the sense of other 50's and 60's packs. I don't think any 50's pack was more than $2,500 or $3,000 in the early 90's. Maybe except for an extreme rarity.
You don't see many 54 or 55 bowman packs or boxes anymore...and remember how many came from the Rosen find?
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<< <i>Opening bids are all over the place, they make no sense. >>
Yeah, some of the opening bids are attractive, others not as much. Should be fun to watch though.
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Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Always buying Bobby Cox inserts. PM me.
<< <i>Does SCP provide guarantees that the packs aren't from Pepis at Net54? >>
Do they have stars on top?
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
I was pretty upset when my PSA 9 1972 Topps 6th series got gum tears in it due to the holder design. Looking at how the 1957 Topps sold for about 1/3 of SMR because of the same problem, while most other packs were 2x or higher SMR, I realize it could have been a lot worse. Here's a link to the 1957. SMR of $3500. Sold for $1300. Ouch. I was tempted, but spent my money elsewhere. 1957 Topps Wax Pack
There have been several packs that have sold in excess of $15k in the last 6 years, albeit in private sales. A '56 nickel pack would certainly be near $20k at this point.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
Never thought that it would go for over $10K. Crazy--but in 20 years of collecting unopened--this is the 1st '53 Bowman Color I have seen for auction that I can recall.
The '58-no surprise--been about 6 years since the last public auction I think.
Anthony--figured you for one or both of these !!
Manny, I"m 99% sure this is the same '53 pack from the '07 Mastro. That one had a lot of gum powder in the holder and was a GAI 5, this one is a PSA 3 but has the same folds and stains as the other one.
There was also a different '53 pack in a catalog auction about '97. It was pretty hammered as well. I already have a full run of Topps packs so wasn't in the running for the '58.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
I do recall that GAI pack. Sure is a rare one.
Wonder who got the '58. I knew you already had one--thought you may splurge on a 2nd one !!
here is the unclickable link (sorry!!)
http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=77318
Minimum Bid: $500
Final Bid(Includes Buyers Premium): $11,596
it doesnt look quite as bad in the psa holder as its obviously sans alot of the gum dust/fragments/pieces that were present in the gai holder
wonder if whoever submitted it to psa cracked it out of the gai holder prior to submitting it to psa or if they submitted it in the gai holder?!?!
Shane
<< <i>A friend of mine has a cello pack from 1958 Topps baseball. Any chance this has around the same value as the wax pack? >>
No.
Thanks.
Mastro - December 2007
$694.00
1958 Topps Baseball 2nd Series Unopened Cello Pack - GAI Gem Mint 9.5
Mastro - August 2008
$1,200.00
Unopened 1958 Topps Baseball Cello Pack GAI NM+ 7.5
Goodwin - March 2008
$1,226.70
1958 Topps Baseball 4th Series Unopened Cello Pack GAI 8.5
REA - 2009
$823.00
1958 Topps Baseball Unopened Cello Pack GAI 8.5 NM/MT+
Mile High - January 2010
$976.43
1958 Topps Baseball unopened Cello pack GAI 6.5 series 2
Ebay - May 2011
$611.00
-A pack like '52 bowman was quote "easy". Easy in the sense of other 50's and 60's packs. I don't think any 50's pack was more than $2,500 or $3,000 in the early 90's. Maybe except for an extreme rarity.
You don't see many 54 or 55 bowman packs or boxes anymore...and remember how many came from the Rosen find?
<< <i> Isn't $14K+ the second-highest price ever paid for an unopened pack?
>>
$18k for a '52 Topps pack last nite in Heritage, and $3k+ for a '59. Definitely a rise in realized prices for scarcer '50's packs.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's