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As much as I like color on a Morgan, nothing beats a true Black & White.

Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Your coin?? 68/69 DMPL??
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    gotta be a proof
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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yeah, your right. Wasn't thinking.
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep, it's mine. I decided to take a couple shots of it. Can you believe I have never sent it in!
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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 9,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    paperweight?
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>paperweight? >>



    Funny! Wouldn't it be Sweet for them to mistake it for a DMPL??!!
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    ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭
    What the heck is that?????
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
    California Cameo, polished and whizzed.
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    cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,622 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>California Cameo, polished and whizzed. >>



    yup.
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No it's not! WOW!!

    Just a proof at an angle. And a nice one!


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    BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭
    Even if it is a proof, the surfaces are iffy...

    It looks like it's been tooled.
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,225 ✭✭✭✭✭
    larger pictures?
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe larger and straight on pictures.
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    commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,078 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe larger and straight on pictures. >>



    I agree. Has the classic "eBay tilt" hiding any flaws.

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    bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    This one i would need to see in hand,you FIND the time to send this in if its the real deal!image
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    magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭


    << <i>Yep, it's mine. I decided to take a couple shots of it. Can you believe I have never sent it in! >>




    Yes.

    Best wishes,
    Eric
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow...if that is real.... amazing. That truly needs to be sent in for grading..Cheers, RickO
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is an understatement:

    There are lots of good coins that have never been seen by any TPG, yet.
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    LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Send it in, either here or across the street and post the results. You have more than a few of us wanting to see what they say.
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    WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WE need better pictures... or send it in via the walkthrough service (2 days) and let us know how it grades.

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    HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice one Wabbit, looks like it would grade PR66 DCAM to me.
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    ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Yep, it's mine. I decided to take a couple shots of it. Can you believe I have never sent it in! >>



    Can you share any story behind this coin? If this coin is genuine and looks like the photos while in hand, I can't imagine how I would have never sent it in!
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    DarwinDarwin Posts: 94
    It is very difficult to tell why there is the "ebay tilt" on that coin. Is there a cleaning being hidden, or is it a deep proof?
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    blueifalconblueifalcon Posts: 963 ✭
    What a doll!image
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    WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>California Cameo, polished and whizzed. >>



    I was thinking the same thing.
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    morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The fields don't look deep enough for a proof. Something about it just doesn't look right.
    Maybe it's the image, dunno.
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    ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭
    That second photo you posted shows what looks like a really rough or scraped up bottom chin that doesn't look right. The whole coin does have an odd finish to me but it could be the photos.
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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow...if that is real.... amazing. That truly needs to be sent in for grading >>


    I agree
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    relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Based on the rim and deticles, I would say it is a proof. Whether it's been messed with is another question.
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Better photo's? The pro's wish they could take these! image


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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,851 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Better photo's? The pro's wish they could take these! image


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    That's better! Wow nice coin...
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is there a story to the coin? How it was acquired, when, from whom? Was it ever TPG-graded?

    Why aren't the pictures shot square? Sure looks odd oval.
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    the images are big and clear but ironically enough not sufficient to be 100% imo.

    i'm leaning towards proof but a little uneasy after seeing the images enlarged
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say there is something wrong with the chin. There is, the same thing that is wrong with all of them!


    Apparently, it is against forum rules to own a nice ungraded coin? My kids know what to do if something happens to me. Outside of that, she only needs grading if I want to sell it.
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    stealerstealer Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say there is something wrong with the chin. There is, the same thing that is wrong with all of them! >>


    Yes, the banded chin. It is a proof coin. Nothing wrong with owning a nice ungraded coin, but it exacerbates the process of evaluating the coin when proper images aren't provided. Taking a set head-on will help.
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought I was pretty strait. You have to angle some on a proof or it looks really strange and dark. At least Morgans. So many are ugly nasty toning, thus a clean white one apparently looks wrong, at least from the comments here.
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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stainless steel looking Morganimageimage
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,901 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I thought I was pretty strait. You have to angle some on a proof or it looks really strange and dark. At least Morgans. So many are ugly nasty toning, thus a clean white one apparently looks wrong, at least from the comments here. >>



    You do not need to angle the coin. Straight on would allow us to see the fields, hairlines etc. What you have provided is a mock glamour shot. The provided shots are still titled just enough to hide something.

    Now with the larger pics it looks much less like a Cal Cameo and that is a very good thing.
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I thought I was pretty strait. You have to angle some on a proof or it looks really strange and dark. At least Morgans. So many are ugly nasty toning, thus a clean white one apparently looks wrong, at least from the comments here. >>



    You do not need to angle the coin. Straight on would allow us to see the fields, hairlines etc. What you have provided is a mock glamour shot. The provided shots are still titled just enough to hide something.

    Now with the larger pics it looks much less like a Cal Cameo and that is a very good thing. >>




    Mock glamour shot? Hide something. What is this, a trial?? Just posting pics of a nice coin.
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    GeminiGemini Posts: 3,085 ✭
    The coin it is beautiful but at the same time I have an uneasy gut feeling about it and I can't figure out what it is maybe the chrome look of it? I dunno not sure maybe I haven't seen that many Morgan proofs mainly deep mirror proof likes I'm hoping that it's the real deal.
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reason for the thread was how cool I think B&W Morgans look. I still think that!



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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is come black and white straight on for you, die polish, nicks, hits, pitting.....

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,225 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The reason for the thread was how cool I think B&W Morgans look. I still think that! >>



    reverse? image

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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here is come black and white straight on for you, die polish, nicks, hits, pitting.....
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    Let me see you angle that coin and make it look nice. You just won't give up. Whatever makes you happy. I think its funny to watch someone go to such extremes rather than admit he was wrong, or just stay quiet! image
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,225 ✭✭✭✭✭
    imageimage ?
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,901 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Here is come black and white straight on for you, die polish, nicks, hits, pitting.....
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    Let me see you angle that coin and make it look nice. You just won't give up. Whatever makes you happy. I think its funny to watch someone go to such extremes rather than admit he was wrong, or just stay quiet! image >>



    I was just posting a black and white coin since that is what the thread.

    I dont have any angle shots, this is another look, but not what I prefer.


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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The reason for the thread was how cool I think B&W Morgans look. I still think that! >>



    reverse? image >>





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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,225 ✭✭✭✭✭
    those marks to the viewer's right of the eagle out in the field, NE of the arrow points, seem soft and mushy.

    I'm worried, too.

    but I'm no morganologist either.
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,225 ✭✭✭✭✭
    however, the rim and denticles do seem very proof indicative. I'm not sure why others would say it isn't a proof.


    btw, I like the contrast, too.
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    magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭
    Hello,

    When I first saw the subject coin, it had 3 responses at most. I was going to reply "I could go swimming in that!", but I did not because I thought it looked "fake" or "altered" - in any case wrong. Odd surface. Orange peely, with strangeness around some stars, weird bit(es) to the right of the eagle etc. I don't claim to know Proof Morgans, just a passing dalliance with an alleged 95 in threads past, but the coin seems odd, with some weirdness on the surfaces, fields, the stuff under the chin. It has the denticles, the square appearance of numerals...and some odd chrome look that unsettles me with the above observations noted. This is from images only.

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