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Official WWE HOF Rookies Thread

Goomba78Goomba78 Posts: 172 ✭
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I thought it would be a great idea to setup a WWE HOF RC set, and I talked to PSA about including it on the registry. Since there are technically no official wrestling RC cards, all we have to do is come up with a checklist and send it in for approval. I've come up with a starting point of "RC" cards that we can debate/edit to finalize the list. This would be a great place to show off some cards too. I look forward to seeing some nice stuff & getting everyone's input

Adbulla the Butcher - 1981 Wrestling Superstars
Andre the Giant - 1982 Wrestling Stars Series A #1
Antonio Rocca - 1951 Topps Ringside #53
Antonio Inoki - 1983 Wrestling Stars Series #27
Arnold Skaaland - 1995 WWF Magazine #41
Baron Mikel Scicluna -
Big John Studd - 1983 Wrestling All-Stars #22
Bill Watts - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #35
Billy Graham - 1983 Wrestling All-Stars #1
The BlackJacks: Blackjack Lanza -
The BlackJacks: Blackjack Mulligan -
Bob Armstrong -
Bob Backlund - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #12
Bob Orton Jr - 1985 OPC Series 2 #12
Bob Uecker -
Bobby Heenan - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series B #16
Bobo Brazil - 1954 Parkhurst Wrestling #36
Booker T - 1995 WCW Main Event #16
Bret Hart - 1987 OPC WWF #1
Bruno Sammartino - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #13
Buddy Rogers - 1955 Parkhurst Wrestling #119
Captain Lou Albano - 1983 Wrestling All-Stars #32
Chief Jay Strongbow - 1983 Wrestling All-Stars #17
Curt Hennig - 1983 Wrestling All-Stars #5
Don Muraco - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #15
Donald Trump -
Drew Carey -
Dusty Rhodes - 1982 Wrestling Stars Series A #6
Eddie Graham -
Eddie Guerrero - 1998 Topps WCW/NWO #27
Edge - 1998 WWF Superstarz #46
Ernie Ladd - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #32
Fabulous Moolah - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #21
Four Horseman: Barry Windham - 1985 Wrestling Superstars #31
Four Horseman: Arn Anderson - 1988 NWA Wonderama #239
Four Horseman: Tully Blanchard - 1983 Wrestling All-Stars #6
Four Horseman: James J. Dillon - 1988 NWA Wonderama #165
Freddie Blassie - 1983 Wrestling All-Stars #31
The Funks: Terry Funk - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #10
The Funks: Dory Funk Jr. - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #9
Gene Okerlund - 1989 Classic #51
George Steele - 1985 Topps WWF #21
Gerald Brisco - 1998 DuoCards WWF #5
Gordon Solie - 1995 Cardz WCW #49
Gorgeous George - 1954 Parkhurst #69
Gorilla Monsoon - 1990 Classic WWF #52
Grand Wizard - 1983 Wrestling All-Stars #33
Greg Valentine - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series B #33
Hacksaw Jim - 1983 Wrestling All-Stars #10
Harley Race - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #8
High Chief P.Maivia - 1955 Parkhurst Wrestling #72
Howard Finkel - 2011 Topps WWE Heritage #H20
Hulk Hogan - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #2
Iron Sheik - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series B #25
Ivan Putski - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #28
Jack Brisco - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #7
James Dudley - 2001 Artbox WWF Motioncardz #23
Jerry Lawler - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #34
Jesse Ventura - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series B #20
Jim Ross - 1991 WCW 1st Series #15
Jimmy Hart - 1983 Wrestling All-Stars #13
Jimmy Snuka - 1983 Wrestling All-Stars #7
Johnny Rodz -
Junkyard Dog - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #5
Killer Kowalski - 1954 Parkhurst #40
Koko B Ware - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series B #35
Mae Young - 2001 Fleer WWF Wrestlemania #56
Maurice Vachon - 2011 In the Game Canadiana Blue #37
Mick Foley - 1992 WCW Magazine #12
Mike Tyson -
Mil Mascaras - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #3
MDM Ted Dibiase - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #4
Mr Fuji - 1985 Topps WWF #17
Nick Bockwinkel - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #11
Nikolai Volkoff - 1985 OPC Series 2 #1
Pat Patterson - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #26
Paul Ellering - 1986 Monte Gum #69
Paul Orndorff - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series B #12
Pedro Morales - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #14
Pete Rose -
Ric Flair - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #27
Rickey Steamboat - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series B #11
Road Warriors - 1985 Wrestling All-Stars #35
Rocky Johnson - 1983 Wrestling All-Stars #24
Roddy Piper - 1985 Topps WWF #7
Ron Simmons - 1988 NWA Wonderama #10
Sensational Sherri - 1989 Classic WWF #18
Sgt. Slaughter - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series B #14
Shawn Michaels - 1989 WWF Classic #28
The Sheik - 1973 Wrestling Annual Hand Cut #6
Steve Austin - 1992 WCW Magazine #10
Stu Hart -
Sunny - 1995 WWF Magazine #55
Tito Santana - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series B #13
Trish Stratus - 2001 Fleer Divas #1
Tony Atlas - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #25
Valiant Brothers: Jimmy Valiant - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series B #22
Valiant Brothers: Johnny Valiant -
Verne Gagne - 1954 Parkhurst Wrestling #17
Vince McMahon Sr -
Von Erichs: Fritz Von Erich - 1986 Monte Gum #9
Von Erichs: Kerry Von Erich - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #7
Von Erichs: Kevin Von Erich - 1985 Wrestling Superstars #22
Von Erichs: Mike Von Erich - 1985 Wrestling Superstars #40
Wendi Richter - 1985 Topps WWF #8
Wild Samoans: Afa&Sika - 2006 Topps Heritage II WWE #76
William Perry - 1985 OPC Series 2 #72
Yokozuna - 1994 Action Packed WWF #8

Notables
Brian Pillman - 1991 WCW 1st Series #11
British Bulldogs - 1985 OPC Series 2 #6
Chris Jericho - 1998 Topps WCW/NWO #19
Davey Boy Smith - 1985 OPC Series 2 #48
Demolition - 1987 WWF Stuart Wrestling #7
Fabulous Freebirds - 1985 Wrestling All Stars #9
Giant / Big Show - 1997 WCW Pin Cards
***(2) Goldberg - 1998 Topps WCW/NWO #9 / 1988 Georgia Bulldogs
Hart Foundation - 1987 WWF Circle K Supermatch Cards #3
Jake Roberts - 1983 Wrestling All-Stars #25
Kane - 1995 WWF Magazine #81 "Isaac Yankem D.D.S."
Kevin Nash - 1994 Action Packed WWF #4
King Kong Bundy - 1985 OPC Series 2 #7
Lex Luger - 1988 NWA Wonderama #35
MM Randy Savage - 1985 OPC Series 2 #63
***(2) Rick Rude - 1989 Classic #3 / 1989 Superstars of Wrestling Series 2 #8
Rock N' Roll Express - 1985 Wrestling All Stars #28
Scott Hall - 1992 WCW Topps #18 "Diamond Studd"
Sid Vicious - 1991 WCW 1st Series #10
Steiner Brothers - 1991 WCW 1st Series #6
Steve Regal - 1983 Wrestling All-Stars #15
Sting - 1988 NWA Wonderama #17
Terry Funk - 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A #10
***(2) The Rock - 1998 WWF Superstarz #8 / 1994 Miami Hurricanes Bumble Bee
Triple H - 1995 WWF Magazine #62
Ultimate Warrior - 1989 WWF Classic #5
***(2) Undertaker - 1991 Classic WWF Superstars #64 / 1991 WWF Merlin #40
Vince McMahon Jr - 1984-1989 LJN Figure Cards Series 5
Greatly overpaying for a 2000 Fleer Showcase Tom Brady PSA 10

Comments

  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Bobo Brazil was in the 1954 Parkhurst wrestling set.......
    Verne Gagne was in the 1954 Parkhurst wrestling set........

    Buddy Rogers was in the 1955 Parkhurst wrestling set.........




    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • Goomba78Goomba78 Posts: 172 ✭


    << <i>Bobo Brazil was in the 1954 Parkhurst wrestling set.......
    Verne gagne was in the 1954 Parkhurst wrestling set........

    Buddy Rogers was in the 1955 Parkhurst wretling set.........
    Prinice Maiava was in the 1955 Parkhurst wrestlilng set....... >>




    Edited with changes
    Greatly overpaying for a 2000 Fleer Showcase Tom Brady PSA 10
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Bob Armstrong is not in the Parkhurst set......
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭
    List looks good to me. My only suggestion would be to use 85 and 87 OPC over topps since OPC is more limited. 85 piper and Bret hart for example. Just a suggestion... You intent might be the most mainstream rookie. Also the rock and Goldberg have earlier football cards. Not sure if you would want to use those instead. And lastly there are some Japanese sets from 74 and 76 that contain the first cards of a few of the wrestlers listed. It's a mute point right now since psa doesn't grade them right now. I just got them slabbed by bgs and working with psa right now to get them to grade them.
    Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1989 Classic cards are going to be tough. I opened a box a few days ago that said the packs were from 1989. Once I opened them they were 1990 cards.

    There is no way to know until you open them as the 1989 packs are the same as the 1990.

  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    The Classics are very tough, I like the super star cards out of New Zealand if you are looking for an equivalent.....
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭
    I like the market scene limited cards from nz too. They are pretty tough to find. Has anyone ever seen series 3 from 89 though? All the ones I've seen say 199" on the back
    Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here
  • Goomba78Goomba78 Posts: 172 ✭


    << <i>List looks good to me. My only suggestion would be to use 85 and 87 OPC over topps since OPC is more limited. 85 piper and Bret hart for example. Just a suggestion... You intent might be the most mainstream rookie. Also the rock and Goldberg have earlier football cards. Not sure if you would want to use those instead. And lastly there are some Japanese sets from 74 and 76 that contain the first cards of a few of the wrestlers listed. It's a mute point right now since psa doesn't grade them right now. I just got them slabbed by bgs and working with psa right now to get them to grade them. >>




    I tried to start the list with cards that would be somewhat mainstream, because I know some of the sets are nearly impossible to find. I'd be leaning more to keeping the '85 topps over the OPC where certain wrestlers have cards in both sets, but I could see changing the '87 Bret Hart to the OPC since he's from Canada & it would probably be his most desirable RC card. I also figured that the Rock & Goldberg RCs should be wrestling cards & those football cards would be considered XRCs to me, but this list isn't meant to be mine. I just came up with a starting point & would like to hear what everyone else thinks. I will put your suggestions up next to the cards that I have already listed & we can eventually vote on which ones we want in the set. I'm hoping there are more collectors out there that would be interested in this set and can provide some input.

    Let us know how you make out grading those Japanese cards
    Greatly overpaying for a 2000 Fleer Showcase Tom Brady PSA 10
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Are you going to the wrestling annual cards only if they do not have a traditional wrestling card that is a rookie? I know that the value of the All Stars is higher than all other wrestling issues but let's just say in regards to Jay Strongbow. We would be going with his 1982 Wrestling All Star over his 1973 Wrestling Annual Card.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • Goomba78Goomba78 Posts: 172 ✭
    My thought was to try to stick with actual "cards" for the RCs. I couldn't find a card for The Sheik, so that's why I had the annual card in there. I also couldn't find a card for Vince McMahon Jr, so I used the LGN Figure card back as an alternative.

    Any idea on what to use for tag teams/stables (Blackjacks, Funks, Valiant Brothers, Von Erichs)?
    Greatly overpaying for a 2000 Fleer Showcase Tom Brady PSA 10
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭
    I think Vince McMahon has a 91 Merlin card. Does psa grade the Ljn cards?
    Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here
  • Goomba78Goomba78 Posts: 172 ✭
    I don't see any on the pop report but I've seen some slabbed auto ones
    Greatly overpaying for a 2000 Fleer Showcase Tom Brady PSA 10
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Eddie Guerrero has a BBM Japan card as Black Tiger from 1995 or 1996, not sure what you want to do with that.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    If the tag teams do not have a card I like how you just listed their individual rookie.

    Wild Samoans have a 1985 Prism sticker as well.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭
    I just received an email from psa that they will grade the 1974 yamakatsu cards. I think this is Andre the giants true rookie. It's his first actual card and its produced by a major manufacturer. I will be subbing them soon so hopefully the will appear in the pop report within a month.
    Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    Here is what I would consider RCs from the 1974 and 1976 Yamakatsu sets:

    Abdullah the Butcher - 1976 Yamakatsu AJPW, #36
    Andre the Giant - 1974 Yamakatsu NJPW, #25 & 29
    Antonio Inoki - 1974 Yamakatsu NJPW, various #s
    Dory Funk Jr - 1976 Yamakatsu AJPW, #7, #18, #30, #38
    Terry Funk - 1976 Yamakatsu AJPW, #14 & #31
    Harley Race - 1976 Yamakatsu AJPW, #21 & #40
    Mil Mascaras - 1976 Yamakatsu AJPW, #8, #19, #20 & #24
    Jack Brisco - 1976 Yamakatsu AJPW, #13, #32 & #35
    The Shiek - 1976 Yamakatsu AJPW, #28
    Pedro Morales - 1976 Yamakatsu AJPW, #26

    For some reason, the AJPW set is extremely hard to find, but the NJPW sent is much easier to locate.

  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I'd love to get my hands on some of those 1976 cards if you ever find them!
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    That Abdullah the Butcher seems awesome since he has very few cards!
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    I've asked around at various Japanese card shops and they all are coming up empty. A tough set to find for sure. A couple of albums is all I've been able to come up with.
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Hope this set is sent to PSA soon! A little more fine tuning and then submit?
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Eddie Guerrero was in the 1995 BBM set from Japan as Black Tiger.

    Gorilla Monsoon was in the 1989 Classic set.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hope to this set sent to PSA soon! A little more fine tuning and then submit? >>



    Eagles has some of the 1974 set at PSA. Waiting to hear back from them.
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    It is interesting with the Andre but I sort of see his Yamakatsu as an XRC and his 1982 Wrestling All Star as a RC.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    I would tend to agree, but Andre also has cards in the 1978 Amada Kings of the Square Ring set too. Yamakatsu and Amada were major manufacturers in Japan and produced probably several thousand of each set if not more.
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Well here is the proof needed to confirm that PSA will grade the Steve Austin magazine card..........

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    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭
    Has this set gone live yet? As a rookie card collector I would rather have the 74 yamakatsu card for a few reasons. The first is that it was produced so much earlier than the 82 card. 2nd is that although its difficult to find its still produced by a major manufacturer. Yamakatsu produced Star Wars, baseball and many other non sport cards. 3 its an actual card that was pack issued, numbered, in color on decent card stock. If it were one if the 4 major sports I would tend to agree its an xrc but when dealing with the other sports many times you have to look to foreign issues. There is no doubt that the 82 set is the most popular mainstream set but I don't think it's the only set to consider rookie cards from.. Finally I think they look pretty darn cool in slabs. I kept the lower grade one for myself.. So these are no longer mine but this is how they look slabbed

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    Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    Gone live? Hadn't heard that term before. Someday I plan on sending in my set to get slabbed and have PSA add it to the set registry. I would agree that this would be a great candidate for his rookie on all your points. Problem is not enough on the market. They look pretty sweet in the slabs.
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    It now appears that there are two Mil Mascaras cards issued before 1982....1976 Yamakatsu and 1980 Marusho.
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    Is there any progress from PSA on including this list in the registry? Thanks!
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    perhaps the original poster to this thread has lost interest in doing so although one of us can pick this up and run with it.......
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    This would be a fun set to add.....not sure on some of the cards should go......
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    There are several wrestling halls of fame. Do you do a different set registry for each hall of fame or a combined one?
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Good question, I think you can pick one of them or have a set of each of them (overlap I am sure for some wrestlers). They seem to have a different focus, I would like to include some of the real early guys like Frank Gotch to be included in the set. Some of the really old wrestlers never had a card though.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I hope to revive this at some point. It would be a great idea to get a set going some time this year.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I think I am going to do my best and end up creating a set for this HOF rookies thread.........
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • Tecmo BoilTecmo Boil Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    Hi all. Stumbled onto this great thread. You guys are amazing.

    Did this ever get off the ground?

  • RobbyRobby Posts: 673 ✭✭✭

    This is a pretty old thread ...................and I believe most of the WWE has gravitated
    to the other Message Board " Sports Cards and Memorabilia Forum " under the message title
    of " 1982 Wrestling All Stars Series B new additions...Magazine and Order Form Photos...dpeck100 new addi "
    You will get a quicker answer over there ????
    Robbie

    Collect 1964 Topps Baseball
    1963 Fleer
    Lou Brock Master Set
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't believe it ever did.

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