Another 1970's Group Rip - CLOSED

JHS5120

PM me for details.

Box #1

1. DCanfield
2. DCanfield
3. DCanfield
4. DCanfield
5. DCanfield
6. DCanfield
7. DCanfield
8. DCanfield
9. DCanfield
10. DCanfield
11. DCanfield
12. DCanfield
13. DCanfield
14. DCanfield
15. DCanfield
16. DCanfield
17. DCanfield
18. DCanfield
19. grote15
20. grote15
21. grote15
22. grote15
23. grote15
24. grote15
25. grote15
26. grote15
27. grote15
28. grote15
29. grote15
30. grote15
31. JHS5120
32. JHS5120
33. JHS5120
34. JHS5120
35. JHS5120
36. JHS5120

Box #2
1. DCanfield
2. DCanfield
3. DCanfield
4. DCanfield
5. DCanfield
6. DCanfield
7. JHS5120
8. JHS5120
9. JHS5120
10. JHS5120
11. JHS5120
12. JHS5120
13. grote15
14. grote15
15. grote15
16. grote15
17. grote15
18. grote15
19. grote15
20. grote15
21. grote15
22. grote15
23. grote15
24. grote15
25. cpamike
26. cpamike
27. cpamike
28. cpamike
29. cpamike
30. cpamike
31. cpamike
32. cpamike
33. cpamike
34. cpamike
35. cpamike
36. cpamike

Box #3
1. JustinsShoebox
2. JustinsShoebox
3. JustinsShoebox
4. JustinsShoebox
5. JustinsShoebox
6. JustinsShoebox
7. JustinsShoebox
8. JustinsShoebox
9. JustinsShoebox
10. JustinsShoebox
11. JustinsShoebox
12. JustinsShoebox
13. JustinsShoebox
14. JustinsShoebox
15. JustinsShoebox
16. JustinsShoebox
17. JustinsShoebox
18. JustinsShoebox
19. JustinsShoebox
20. JustinsShoebox
21. JustinsShoebox
22. JustinsShoebox
23. JustinsShoebox
24. JustinsShoebox
25. JustinsShoebox
26. JustinsShoebox
27. JustinsShoebox
28. JustinsShoebox
29. JustinsShoebox
30. JustinsShoebox
31. JustinsShoebox
32. JustinsShoebox
33. JustinsShoebox
34. JustinsShoebox
35. JustinsShoebox
36. JustinsShoebox

DCanfield

I'd take 18 from box 1, 6 from #2 and 4 from #3.
Thanks,
Doug

Dboneesq

<< <i>I'd take 18 from box 1, 6 from #2 and 4 from #3.
Thanks,
Doug >>



You sick 'ole man! LOL

DAMN, I told you Floridians to keep the weather warm for me. I'm heading down to the Tampa area on Wednesday morning and staying until Monday morning. Temps are going to be about 15 degrees cooler than they were last week!!!

grote15

I'd take 8 from Box 1 and 12 from Box 2. Thanks!

JHS5120

<< <i>I'd take 18 from box 1, 6 from #2 and 4 from #3.
Thanks,
Doug >>



Sorry, JustinSmokebox claimed box 3 via PM almost instantly.

DCanfield

No problem on #3. Iguess I don't typr fast enough.

I did say I'd take 18 of box #1 though.

cpamike

12 from Box 2 like Tim.

Thanks!!!

ClockworkAngel

Looks like I missed again. What a bummer. Things happen quickly around here...

vettfanatic

Not much of a "group" rip with only 5 different participants.

Jeff

Scottiec2288

Very lame!! Still waiting on pm with details

lamontcarter

Do people even consider for a second that other folks might like to participate?

ldferg

I'm in unless its hockey.

MrVintage

So just exactly what are we busting here fellas?

ClockworkAngel

<< <i>So just exactly what are we busting here fellas? >>



So how is this a group rip if (as an example) justin's shoebox bought every pack of one of the boxes? No offense to Justin, but doesn't that kind of defeat the spirit of these things? And is the OP just flipping the box or something? What gives?

JHS5120

lamontcarter



<< <i>Do people even consider for a second that other folks might like to participate? >>


It was my decision to allow participants to take as many packs as they desired, it makes it easier for me to collect money and ship packs. I have organized 2 of these "rips" in 4 days and we have done 4 boxes in that time. Hopefully there will be many many more to come.


ClockworkAngel



<< <i>So how is this a group rip if (as an example) justin's shoebox bought every pack of one of the boxes? >>


I allowed Justin to take the box, it wasn't getting as much interest as the other two and it worked out well.



<< <i>And is the OP just flipping the box or something? What gives? >>


No. Me and all of the participants of the rip split the costs evenly.

MrVintage

soooooo......what are you ripping?

JustinsShoebox

<< <i>soooooo......what are you ripping? >>



Judging by the participants, I don't think anyone is ripping anything.

Justin

JHS5120

<< <i>Judging by the participants, I don't think anyone is ripping anything.

Justin >>



+1

swartz1

maybe someone will reply to the question that has been asked multiple time already...

or maybe it is shipping from Canada...

itzagoner

looks like i picked the wrong night to watch the Oscars.

Aric

Next time you do one of these you need to make clear that this is not a group rip from bbce but just you selling your packs. Otherwise you are going to ruffle a lot of feathers. Also, it belongs in the BST forum.

JHS5120

<< <i>Next time you do one of these you need to make clear that this is not a group rip from bbce but just you selling your packs. Otherwise you are going to ruffle a lot of feathers. Also, it belongs in the BST forum. >>



I do not own any of these boxes, nor do I profit from these rips. If anyone feels that their feathers have been ruffled, please PM me. Everyone on this forum is more than welcome to join in the next one.

itzagoner

please make sure to pop the next group during the Final Four.

leathtech

Please give us 48 hour notice that something is going to be ripped.

1all

<< <i>soooooo......what are you ripping? >>



I think I figured it out.....



-Doug

dtkk49a

Hopefully there will be many many more to come.

Please keep me informed of any future rips. Thanks

aconte

<< <i>

<< <i>Next time you do one of these you need to make clear that this is not a group rip from bbce but just you selling your packs. Otherwise you are going to ruffle a lot of feathers. Also, it belongs in the BST forum. >>



I do not own any of these boxes, nor do I profit from these rips. If anyone feels that their feathers have been ruffled, please PM me. Everyone on this forum is more than welcome to join in the next one. >>



I agree. Why would anyone be upset. I mean the OP started a thread called another 70's group rip asking to pm for the details. Then he got four guys plus himself in on 108 packs from three boxes.
I am hoping to hold a group rip soon too. Right now I got three spots on hold for me, myself, and I. Not sure if I got room for anyone else but if I do I will start a thread asking to pm for details of the
packs we won't be ripping.

aconte

Aric

<< <i>
I do not own any of these boxes, nor do I profit from these rips. If anyone feels that their feathers have been ruffled, please PM me. Everyone on this forum is more than welcome to join in the next one. >>



"Group Rips" on this forum are generally understood to be BBCE product rips where Steve is mailing out the packs and risk to the buyer is pretty much non-existent. The "group rips" have been promoted in SMR and other channels bringing in new members to participate. A new member could easily confuse a BBCE rip where the risk is nil to one of your rips where the risk is unknown. Add, to that the secretive nature of your post and you can see how this could easily be a set-up for a scam. I don't think yours is but I am sure you can see the problem. Anyone can start posting these "group rips" and I don't think we necessarily want that.

JHS5120

<< <i>"Group Rips" on this forum are generally understood to be BBCE product rips where Steve is mailing out the packs and risk to the buyer is pretty much non-existent. The "group rips" have been promoted in SMR and other channels bringing in new members to participate. A new member could easily confuse a BBCE rip where the risk is nil to one of your rips where the risk is unknown. Add, to that the secretive nature of your post and you can see how this could easily be a set-up for a scam. I don't think yours is but I am sure you can see the problem. Anyone can start posting these "group rips" and I don't think we necessarily want that. >>



I still have yet to receive a PM from you. I would be more than happy to explain the situation if you would let me. I am not advertising this as a BBCE group rip and I make the risks very clear to the participants.

70ToppsFanatic

I personally moved my "rips" over to the B/S/T board when similar concerns were raised.

Jason, your effort is appreciated by many. Just be careful, as there are very few sources of vintage
unopened that can hold a candle to BBCE.

bziddy

<< <i>I personally moved my "rips" over to the B/S/T board when similar concerns were raised.

Jason, your effort is appreciated by many. Just be careful, as there are very few sources of vintage
unopened that can hold a candle to BBCE. >>



Candle or not -- are there many sources left out there? Fritsch? Probstein's consignments?

70ToppsFanatic

<< <i>

<< <i>I personally moved my "rips" over to the B/S/T board when similar concerns were raised.

Jason, your effort is appreciated by many. Just be careful, as there are very few sources of vintage
unopened that can hold a candle to BBCE. >>



Candle or not -- are there many sources left out there? Fritsch? Probstein's consignments? >>



I did say "very few", not NONE.

As for the source for this latest "70s rip", I have personally had to return supposedly "unopened" vintage to
them because it was both tampered with and not what they thought it was. That does not mean that this
rip is bad, but I know the source does not have the proper expertise to authenticate what they are offering.
Based on their history I stay away.

As for the others you mention, Fritsch material has a provenance if you are willing to pay their price. As for
Rick he runs a great, customer-oriented business and I have great respect for him. However, I was not aware
that he has any recognized expertise in the area of vinatge unopened. I would certainly bid on items Rick
lists that have already been certified by a known source of expertise, but there have also been items he's
listed in the past that I know to be illegitimate.

As I said originally, you have to be careful. The majority of vintage unopened opportunities that can be found
publicly today are, IMO, not legitimate.

bziddy

<< <i>

<< <i>

<< <i>I personally moved my "rips" over to the B/S/T board when similar concerns were raised.

Jason, your effort is appreciated by many. Just be careful, as there are very few sources of vintage
unopened that can hold a candle to BBCE. >>



Candle or not -- are there many sources left out there? Fritsch? Probstein's consignments? >>



I did say "very few", not NONE.

As for the source for this latest "70s rip", I have personally had to return supposedly "unopened" vintage to
them because it was both tampered with and not what they thought it was. That does not mean that this
rip is bad, but I know the source does not have the proper expertise to authenticate what they are offering.
Based on their history I stay away.

As for the others you mention, Fritsch material has a provenance if you are willing to pay their price. As for
Rick he runs a great, customer-oriented business and I have great respect for him. However, I was not aware
that he has any recognized expertise in the area of vinatge unopened. I would certainly bid on items Rick
lists that have already been certified by a known source of expertise, but there have also been items he's
listed in the past that I know to be illegitimate.

As I said originally, you have to be careful. The majority of vintage unopened opportunities that can be found
publicly today are, IMO, not legitimate. >>



Understand. Wasn't trying to indicate you were wrong -- I was wondering who else was out there. I know of very very few.

Time4aGansett

Has anyone here bought '70s cello or rack boxes from Fritsch? Just curious if the box(es) were fresh from case, or were made from various boxes with stars pulled.

1all

On a serious note. I don't know for sure what the boxes are. But, in general, I'd think that the more board members that participate in these types of "Group Rips", the less likely it is that there would be an intra-cu bidding war over the items and a potentially lower strike price. Just something to think about.

At this point, I really don't want to know what the boxes are because I don't want to feel bad about bidding on them.

Doug

nopenotyet

PLease remove some of those packs from the listed horders please. I would like thirteen or ovalteen from box threeve please. Love that Lauper.