I'm fine with their small size, but I hate the fact that they make rim bumps difficult to see. I'd rather have a PCGS holder with clear plastic around the rims.
<< <i>The most recent version entered the market after the sale of ANACS in late 2007. While many members of this board do not like them, they appear to be the most stable, best sealed, and most conservatively graded ANACS holders in years, IMHO. >>
Too bad none of this has helped as thay are still considered at the bottom of the pool. >>
<< <i>I recall an article about a test being done on slabs during that era to see their ability to be penetrated by gasses. PCGS and NGC did okay, but ANACS white slabs fell flat on their face. I can't seem to find it, however >>
The tests were performed by Coin World. I remember that it was the first generation PCGS rattler slabs were the ones that didn't do well in the tests. >>
Oh okay, you may be right about that. For some reason I remember it being ANA slabs. I know for sure it wasn't NGC.
I just love the way the new ANACS holder shows the coin suspended in mid-air with a clear glass-like background. Included are the 8 patented high ridges that have protected both sides of the viewing faces of the ANACS holder for how many years now? ANACS holders are rarely seen scratched up? Hold a slab that was created 25 years ago and not a mark on it to obscure the view of the coin. Heck, the US Mint has been putting high rims on our coins for how long? To do what? Awesome holder, I say!
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
Um, I'm going to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there. :-)
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Which year/years were the ANACS holders produced that had 7 big blue triangles with white "A's" inside the triangles? Like This one (not my coin). Or were those made for "details" only coins?
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The old small ANACS holders are usually accurately, even conservatively graded, IMO. Of course, nowadays most of them have been crossed over, leaving only the more optimistic grades still in the small slabs.
I think the older style-small, compact ANACS holders were home to some quality coins-most of which were graded accurately, some of which were over or undergraded-much like NGC and PCGS. Their new slabs, be it yellow or blue label, are disastrous (in my opinion) because they are easy to break, and do not present the coins in the most professional, appealing manner.
<< <i>I have a few, will they ever be collectable? >>
As more and more are destroyed each year they are becoming scarcer and scarcer so I think they will carry a premiium some day. Like them or not, they are part of numismatic history and there are many coin collectors who also take an interest in the older slabs. I think the PCGS rattlers fall in this same category.
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<< <i>There is one less as I just cracked it the other day >>
Those of us that still have some old ANACS slabs thank you.
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<< <i>I have a few, will they ever be collectable? >>
Most likely, not for quite awhile, if ever. There were too many and the company didn't make the right, continued, name for itself. Some will always like them, but I doubt there will be the mania over them as there are for doilies and black slabs.
I like the Old ANACS holders best of all. You see More Coin and Less Plastic. I feel they are similar to the old PCI holders in that they seem to promote more rim tones but with more rainbow colors than the gold rims on the PCI's. I have never seen a box that they fit in like the Rattlers boxes. Does anyone know if there are boxes they do fit in?
I used to house my very nice lower grade (VG - EF) early quarter collection in ANACS. I loved them. A good design while being compact. As the years went by I cracked em all out and sold my die marriage set over time - mostly raw! I still have a bunch of the inserts left over.
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<< <i>I like the Old ANACS holders best of all. You see More Coin and Less Plastic. I feel they are similar to the old PCI holders in that they seem to promote more rim tones but with more rainbow colors than the gold rims on the PCI's. I have never seen a box that they fit in like the Rattlers boxes. Does anyone know if there are boxes they do fit in? >>
They fit very nicely into boxes designed for 2x2 holders. The lids are a little tall, but that's a small penalty.
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<< <i>I recall an article about a test being done on slabs during that era to see their ability to be penetrated by gasses. PCGS and NGC did okay, but ANACS white slabs fell flat on their face. I can't seem to find it, however >>
This wouldn't surprise me. I have a few Lincoln's that were originally graded as Red that are no Red/Brown and some older proofs with the Cameo designation that are have hazy toning. I believe the design may have let air in, and that with combination of the paper label leads to the toning seen. There are some awesome toned coins, but they will not remain so if the coins in the slabs get more oxidation. As an actual holder, I like the SEGS and PCGS style holder. The color of the slabs is kept to a minimum allowing the coin to really be eye appealing visible. I think smaller slabs in line with the old ANACS slabs would be a cool addition to the hobby if one of the major companies would offer them.
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Love them, they give unique toning and just very scratch resistant Also, the early ANACs blues give some awesome Blue,red rim tones that Ive never seen anywhere but from that particular holder
<< <i>My favorite thing about the old ANACS slabs, of course, is the fact that sooo many sellers will heavily discount them, seemingly without even looking at the coin!
Now THAT 'rocks'! >>
Can you tell us who these sellers are? Whenever I find a small ANACS slab holding a nice properly graded coin the dealer wants full retail for it.
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<< <i>My favorite thing about the old ANACS slabs, of course, is the fact that sooo many sellers will heavily discount them, seemingly without even looking at the coin!
Now THAT 'rocks'! >>
Can you tell us who these sellers are? Whenever I find a small ANACS slab holding a nice properly graded coin the dealer wants full retail for it. >>
Why sure. No problem at all.
I'll PM it.... no... I'll just post all that right here.
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I was making the point that no rational coin dealer will "heavily discount" a properly graded coin just because it's in an old ANACS slab. Of course this discussion is more of an academic exercise because the small ANACS slabs are now such a very small part of the current coin market.
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<< <i>The most recent version entered the market after the sale of ANACS in late 2007. While many members of
this board do not like them, they appear to be the most stable, best sealed, and most conservatively graded
ANACS holders in years, IMHO. >>
Too bad none of this has helped as thay are still considered at the bottom of the pool. >>
They do a much better grading job than NGC.
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<< <i>I recall an article about a test being done on slabs during that era to see their ability to be penetrated by gasses. PCGS and NGC did okay, but ANACS white slabs fell flat on their face. I can't seem to find it, however
The tests were performed by Coin World. I remember that it was the first generation PCGS rattler slabs were the ones that didn't do well in the tests. >>
Oh okay, you may be right about that. For some reason I remember it being ANA slabs. I know for sure it wasn't NGC.
Here is one of my favorite ones.
the 8 patented high ridges that have protected both sides of the viewing faces of the ANACS holder for how many years now?
ANACS holders are rarely seen scratched up? Hold a slab that was created 25 years ago and not a mark on it to obscure the view of the coin.
Heck, the US Mint has been putting high rims on our coins for how long? To do what? Awesome holder, I say!
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
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If it came to picking between two identical coins:
one pcgs, one anacs old white
I could go for the anacs.
<< <i>I have over a hundred of them. So yes I like them alot, especially if they have Large Cents in them!
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I agree with you on the ones with large cents in them.
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<< <i>I agree with you on the ones with large cents in them. >>
So do I - I have 5 or 6 of these around, middle dates in AU or low MS - very conservatively graded - not quite EAC standards, but still conservative.
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Or were those made for "details" only coins?
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A simple, beautiful design. This is what Steve Jobs would have delivered.
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Of course, nowadays most of them have been crossed over, leaving only the more optimistic grades still in the small slabs.
But I'm going to cross it so it will be with the rest of my PCGS Russian coins.
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<< <i>I have a few, will they ever be collectable? >>
As more and more are destroyed each year they are becoming scarcer and scarcer so I think they will carry a premiium some day. Like them or not, they are part of numismatic history and there are many coin collectors who also take an interest in the older slabs. I think the PCGS rattlers fall in this same category.
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<< <i>There is one less as I just cracked it the other day
Those of us that still have some old ANACS slabs thank you.
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<< <i>There is one less as I just cracked it the other day
Those of us that still have some old ANACS slabs thank you.
many thanks
<< <i>I have a few, will they ever be collectable? >>
Most likely, not for quite awhile, if ever. There were too many and the company didn't make the right, continued, name for itself.
Some will always like them, but I doubt there will be the mania over them as there are for doilies and black slabs.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
I'll try to get the pictures uploaded.
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PS The current ANACS holder is cheap looking. Flat horrid!
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I like the Old ANACS holders best of all. You see More Coin and Less Plastic. I feel they are similar
to the old PCI holders in that they seem to promote more rim tones but with more rainbow colors
than the gold rims on the PCI's. I have never seen a box that they fit in like the Rattlers boxes. Does
anyone know if there are boxes they do fit in?
Best thing I remember - going to the shows and getting educated on grading by Randy and Mike. They sure brought in a lot of collectors to their table!
Good times and great memories.
Enjoyed numismatic conversations with Eric P. Newman, Dave Akers, Jules Reiver, David Davis, Russ Logan, John McCloskey, Kirk Gorman, W. David Perkins...
<< <i>I like the Old ANACS holders best of all. You see More Coin and Less Plastic. I feel they are similar
to the old PCI holders in that they seem to promote more rim tones but with more rainbow colors
than the gold rims on the PCI's. I have never seen a box that they fit in like the Rattlers boxes. Does
anyone know if there are boxes they do fit in? >>
They fit very nicely into boxes designed for 2x2 holders. The lids are a little tall, but that's a small penalty.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
<< <i>I think this is my oldest ANACS holdered coin. Note the ID number has only six digits, and it starts with a one.
Here is my oldest/lowest serial number one. Not counting the ANA/PNG alpha/number type holders.
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Great slabs. As back then, they are still one of my favorites.
<< <i>I recall an article about a test being done on slabs during that era to see their ability to be penetrated by gasses. PCGS and NGC did okay, but ANACS white slabs fell flat on their face. I can't seem to find it, however
This wouldn't surprise me. I have a few Lincoln's that were originally graded as Red that are no Red/Brown and some older proofs with the Cameo designation that are have hazy toning. I believe the design may have let air in, and that with combination of the paper label leads to the toning seen. There are some awesome toned coins, but they will not remain so if the coins in the slabs get more oxidation. As an actual holder, I like the SEGS and PCGS style holder. The color of the slabs is kept to a minimum allowing the coin to really be eye appealing visible. I think smaller slabs in line with the old ANACS slabs would be a cool addition to the hobby if one of the major companies would offer them.
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Also, the early ANACs blues give some awesome Blue,red rim tones that Ive never seen anywhere but from that particular holder
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<< <i>My favorite thing about the old ANACS slabs, of course, is the fact that sooo many sellers will heavily discount them, seemingly without even looking at the coin!
Now THAT 'rocks'! >>
Can you tell us who these sellers are? Whenever I find a small ANACS slab holding a nice properly graded coin the dealer wants full retail for it.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>My favorite thing about the old ANACS slabs, of course, is the fact that sooo many sellers will heavily discount them, seemingly without even looking at the coin!
Now THAT 'rocks'! >>
Can you tell us who these sellers are? Whenever I find a small ANACS slab holding a nice properly graded coin the dealer wants full retail for it. >>
Why sure. No problem at all.
I'll PM it.... no... I'll just post all that right here.
I was making the point that no rational coin dealer will "heavily discount" a properly graded coin just because it's in an old ANACS slab. Of course this discussion is more of an academic exercise because the small ANACS slabs are now such a very small part of the current coin market.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire