Newp: 1835 Bust half dime (no grading poll this time, until coin is in hand w/better pix)
lordmarcovan
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I'm sorta having doubts about this one.
I might have gone "CircCam crazy" and let my enthusiasm get the best of me this time.
There is no way this coin is an XF, for starters. I bought it as a VF, but now I'm wondering if it isn't really just a solid Fine.
I know one thing many of you will say- that it's too dark- but I like that crusty CircCam contrast, and don't mind 'em blackish if the lighter high points make the design "pop". It's a Crusty Baby Bustie, for sure, but did I just go off half-cocked, I wonder? Hmmm.
I initially made an offer right below a hundred bucks, and the seller counteroffered at $124.95. I said I'd accept his counteroffer if he'd do me the favor of shooting a new set of pictures with the coin removed from the dusty 2x2. So he accomodated my request, but the new set of pictures were taken at an angle and didn't really show the contrast. Though they were dust-free, they were worse, in my opinion.
Numismedia trends are $67 in Fine and $98 in VF, and I'm in this one for $124.95 now. What was I thinking? Strong VF, is what I was thinking, but now I have strong second thoughts on that score.
What do you think? Capped Bust specialists: I thank you in advance for your input. I don't know much about the varieties on these, being just an everyday type coin collector. Would be cool if it were a better die marriage or something, but I ain't holdin' my breath.
Anyway, I paid the seller and will certainly examine the coin when it gets here. I don't have a problem with the overall look of it, though the question of technical grade is still up in the air, and of course the issue of price. There is a return policy, of course. I will avail myself of that if necessary, but might let the seller keep five or ten bucks as a courtesy, since he went through the trouble of making the new pix and all.
I might have gone "CircCam crazy" and let my enthusiasm get the best of me this time.
There is no way this coin is an XF, for starters. I bought it as a VF, but now I'm wondering if it isn't really just a solid Fine.
I know one thing many of you will say- that it's too dark- but I like that crusty CircCam contrast, and don't mind 'em blackish if the lighter high points make the design "pop". It's a Crusty Baby Bustie, for sure, but did I just go off half-cocked, I wonder? Hmmm.
I initially made an offer right below a hundred bucks, and the seller counteroffered at $124.95. I said I'd accept his counteroffer if he'd do me the favor of shooting a new set of pictures with the coin removed from the dusty 2x2. So he accomodated my request, but the new set of pictures were taken at an angle and didn't really show the contrast. Though they were dust-free, they were worse, in my opinion.
Numismedia trends are $67 in Fine and $98 in VF, and I'm in this one for $124.95 now. What was I thinking? Strong VF, is what I was thinking, but now I have strong second thoughts on that score.
What do you think? Capped Bust specialists: I thank you in advance for your input. I don't know much about the varieties on these, being just an everyday type coin collector. Would be cool if it were a better die marriage or something, but I ain't holdin' my breath.
Anyway, I paid the seller and will certainly examine the coin when it gets here. I don't have a problem with the overall look of it, though the question of technical grade is still up in the air, and of course the issue of price. There is a return policy, of course. I will avail myself of that if necessary, but might let the seller keep five or ten bucks as a courtesy, since he went through the trouble of making the new pix and all.
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The not-so-bad news is that your coin is an example of the 1835 LM10/V7, which is one of the, if not the single most common (R1) die marriages in the entire series. However, for those like myself who enjoy die states, your coin is a very scarce very early die state. The LM-10 is virtually always seen with the top loop of S2 (second S in STATES) filled, and on your coin the top loop is not filled. I have only owned two examples of this die state in 30+ years of looking, a VF which was subsequently traded to Barndog, and an EF-45 which now graces my collection. I believe that Barddog has since found an even nicer example, but the VEDS 1835 LM-10/V7 is a keeper for sure. Congratulations. If I had seen that coin myself, you would not have been so lucky.
If the colors and toning prove to be natural and not environmental damage (can't tell from pics) you have a nice example there for a circ-cam type set.
I'll be sure to post an update and the customary grading poll once I get better pictures. Thanks again to all who weighed in. *whew*
<< <i>MrHalfDime's assessment, as usual, is right on. Scarcer early die state of 1835 LM-10 is desirable.
If the colors and toning prove to be natural and not environmental damage (can't tell from pics) you have a nice example there for a circ-cam type set. >>
So I've also now posted my customary grading poll.
PS- I am also very happy with the coin and my earlier doubts have been put to rest.
In hand, it has a sort of semi-iridescent "gunmetal" aspect to the toning.
Here are the new pix. Might not be perfect, but hey, not too shabby for a flatbed scanner, eh?