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ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭
    DNC- half the coin is missing.
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL, this thread raises the age old problem of "grading from internet photos" to new heights! VF25.
  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭✭
    VF30
  • pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭
    MS 60, genuine due to wear.image
    Paul
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image >>

    VF20


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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    F15
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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF30 from what I can see.
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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭✭✭
    f15
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    vf 25th

    a quarter of it is very fine image

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  • JamesMJamesM Posts: 757 ✭
    And that is why I do not normally use anything over 5x
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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    obvious a details coin, there is less than 1/2 a coin there!
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,290 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF, slabbed and cropped. Net AG.
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  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    xf

    Tom

  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭


    << <i>VF, slabbed and cropped. Net AG. >>

    +1
  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,680 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • DeliaBugDeliaBug Posts: 881 ✭
    It takes longer than that just for my eyes to focus...
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yup. vF+ is what I grade this. Considering this is 26 mm and weighing only 3 grams the portion shown has amazing detail right to the edge. In terms of contact marks indicating circulation wear,,,,I can't really see any. The planchet was only partially impressed by the dies, which were probably hand held and struck with a mallet. Study the blank planchet area snd notice it is free of contact marks also. image
  • EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe this HTT circulated for awhile.

    The token and medal shop ATS often frustrates me...this is another prime example. They graded it VG-10 and called it a "Mint Error." Both are inaccurate IMHO. It wasn't struck at a "mint" and shouldn't have been graded. "N. STARBUCK & SON" HTTs are often encountered crudely struck, although not as much as Bucklin's or a handful of others perhaps. Even though the crudity of this example is more extreme than most Starbucks, I don't consider it surprising. I personally think the folks ATS should have simply--and more accurately--attributed it as "Struck On Light Planchet (3.0g)" and called it "Genuine." Again, just my opinion.

    That said, as a pretty serious HTT collector I think it is an interesting specimen. image
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,644 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I knew this was gonna be a trick question. I thought VF20.
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At one time Rulau listed this as an HTT but since then it's true heritage as a Canadian Blacksmith Token, recognized by Howland Wood since 1910 and it's designation as Wood 29 is its primary designation. It is perfectly fine to assign a fairly high grade here since despite strange strike characteristics, what the die does offer is what we grade. This next image is the thin flange like cupping on the reverse (or obverse). This resulted from a worn punch device and this same cupping exists on a half dozed rare related issues by the same maker. The thin flange lip is not nicked worn or bent. A delicate feature which would show any contact. But, you are right this should never have been put into the holder but as much as I long to remove it I want to preserve every surface without any handling. I really don't think a really poorly struck and extremely light coin with a flange rim stood much being accepted in commerce. image
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
    xf
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,059 ✭✭✭✭✭
    By the images your showing it looks like a very weak strike. I have no idea what the grade could be seeing only parts of this coin....CHD
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  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF-20

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