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What is so special about the 1983-P quarter?
CoinBuyer12
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PCGS is showing 20 in 63, 70 in 65, and 300 in 66.
Most of the other 1966 and beyond washies are only worth a dollar or so in 63. This is not a low mintage coin either.
Most of the other 1966 and beyond washies are only worth a dollar or so in 63. This is not a low mintage coin either.
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It's a phenomena
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<< <i>There werent any mint sets that year, so finding really nice pieces is difficult. >>
This.
For some reason even circulated rolls like this one (not mine) are bringing premium prices.
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I seem to recall also that 1983 was the first year that'd they'd freshened up the design in awhile....it was made a crisp again, though Washington seemed to have lost a bit of relief.
(Though now that I look at the image....maybe that refresh was done in the 1990s??),
You can still find the 82s and 83s fairly often in change, I think, but they aren't in very good shape. A couple of years ago, my son and I went through a bunch of rolls and pulled out the best ones. It was a very fun exercise to build a whole set of clad Washies from circulation--and confirmed what CladKing has said about the condition of the coins out there.
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Some, as simple as this, can be answered by GOOGLING the question, or just by opening the Redbook to find out. Did/do you pay someone to do your homework for you in school???
It's becoming painfully obvious you are one that thinks he knows everything, but in reality, are one of the following 2: 1) one who knows virtually nothing, and doesn't care to look for the info yourself, or 2) you are just too lazy to take the time, like most of us have, to find out answers on our own. You are on a computer...a machine that can find virtually ANYTHING you need to know IN THE WORLD (I guess we know which of the 2 scenarios I mention is you...). It's very obvious you haven't taken anyone's advice to 'buy the book' and 'do your homework', or you never would have had to ask such a question. So, now that others are giving you MORE info, info we all learned on our own (c'mon, 'what makes an '83 Washington so special'?.....LanceNewman is right about your 'questions'....buy a Redbook at the VERY least). Obviously, though, you'd rather have others do the work for you...
Tell me, CoinBuyer12, what makes the '82 Washington so special? (I'll check the other coin forums to see if you are too lazy to find out on your own).
Oh, jusy FYI, clad coins tone differently than silver, so when you are AT'ing coins, make sure you keep this in mind, but I'm sure you'll be asking this exact same question soon, anyway.
edited....on your website, you say, in your 'collection' (the one with one coin), that:
'The capped bust type set can be a bit of a challenge. While the coins themselves are not too hard to find, finding the right coins, can be whole different story. I do recommend collecting this set, as it showcases some of the most beautiful coins in America's history. It's also the most cost effective set you can put together, as far as historical coins go. The earlier types can cost hundreds for a single coin. This entire set, on the other hand, can be put together for under $1000.'
What coin forum did you go running to and ask that one? It's obvious if you don't know what makes an '83 Washington special, you did NOT learn that on your own
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most of your inquiries recently can easily be answered by using the archives
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Unfortunately the search function doesn't work that well.
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most of your inquiries recently can easily be answered by using the archives
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Some, as simple as this, can be answered by GOOGLING the question, or just by opening the Redbook to find out. Did/do you pay someone to do your homework for you in school???
It's becoming painfully obvious you are one that thinks he knows everything, but in reality, are one of the following 2: 1) one who knows virtually nothing, and doesn't care to look for the info yourself, or 2) you are just too lazy to take the time, like most of us have, to find out answers on our own. You are on a computer...a machine that can find virtually ANYTHING you need to know IN THE WORLD (I guess we know which of the 2 scenarios I mention is you...). It's very obvious you haven't taken anyone's advice to 'buy the book' and 'do your homework', or you never would have had to ask such a question. So, now that others are giving you MORE info, info we all learned on our own (c'mon, 'what makes an '83 Washington so special'?.....LanceNewman is right about your 'questions'....buy a Redbook at the VERY least). Obviously, though, you'd rather have others do the work for you...
Tell me, CoinBuyer12, what makes the '82 Washington so special? (I'll check the other coin forums to see if you are too lazy to find out on your own).
Oh, jusy FYI, clad coins tone differently than silver, so when you are AT'ing coins, make sure you keep this in mind, but I'm sure you'll be asking this exact same question soon, anyway.
edited....on your website, you say, in your 'collection' (the one with one coin), that:
'The capped bust type set can be a bit of a challenge. While the coins themselves are not too hard to find, finding the right coins, can be whole different story. I do recommend collecting this set, as it showcases some of the most beautiful coins in America's history. It's also the most cost effective set you can put together, as far as historical coins go. The earlier types can cost hundreds for a single coin. This entire set, on the other hand, can be put together for under $1000.'
What coin forum did you go running to and ask that one? It's obvious if you don't know what makes an '83 Washington special, you did NOT learn that on your own >>
WOW . . . Who pissed in your corn flakes ? ! ? !
Wouldn't it have been easier just to answer the question than go off into a diatribe like that?
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<< <i>NotSure, why so harsh? If someone's question bothers you, why not ignore it and keep on smiling? There's enough nastiness in the world already... >>
Seems that some but by no means all "old timers" are, at times, the nastiest.
They like to jump on relative newbies for no good reason.
Kinda funny that High Grade 1983 Quarters are rare but 1983 Off Center Quarters are plentiful.
And everyone and their brother collects modern circulation strike clad quarters. They're probably the hottest segment of the US coin market right now.
Limited supply with strong demand = high value, high prices.
Simple math.
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Hmmmm . . .
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<< <i>There werent any mint sets that year, so finding really nice pieces is difficult. >>
exactly
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most of your inquiries recently can easily be answered by using the archives
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Unfortunately the search function doesn't work that well. >>
Well, that's not really an excuse. If CoinBuyer12 really wanted to know the answer to this question, he could have simply gone to the Google home page, typed in "1983 quarter" followed by the words "forums.collectors". Search engines work by stringing buzz words together. The Google search engine, in essence, would have found all the forum threads about his inquiry.
It's not that complicated. And neither is buying a Red Book. >>
Simply answering his question is not that complicated either and so much more pleasant then telling him to look it up.
Honestly, some of the people in here are just plain nasty.
<< <i>Simply answering his question is not that complicated either and so much more pleasant then telling him to look it up.
Honestly, some of the people in here are just plain nasty. >>
Sorry, I'm gonna have to agree with daOnlyBG on this one. It's not that hard to search these forums.
It's def easy to answer CB12's consistently basic questions. They're pretty shallow and don't require much effort. What annoys me is that he doesn't take initiative to look things up himself- and to me, that's a sign of sloth and laziness. Call me "nasty" if you'd like (I love ad hominem attacks- they have a little ring of vindication in them), but I would find more value in letting someone teach themselves the small basics through their own research, rather than spoon-feeding it to them. If CB12 is who he says he is, he should know to look this stuff up himself. For a group of people who consistently tell others to "buy the book before the coin," I expect similar sentiments.
LanceNewmanOCC and NotSure's comments aren't just conjured up to be rude or mean. They're written as a response to CB12's usual shenanigans.
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Maybe some of you who are bashing have forgotten where you came from. Most forums are very open and this one mostly so and that means he can ask what he wants. Perhaps the op just enjoys searching for numismatic answers in this way so he can engage in conversation.
Such ridiculous comments can only hurt the hobby if YN's are posting
<< <i>The mint only made 673,535,000 1983-P quarters. Think about that--that's fewer than two duplicate examples for each man, woman, and child in the country.
And everyone and their brother collects modern circulation strike clad quarters. They're probably the hottest segment of the US coin market right now.
Limited supply with strong demand = high value, high prices.
Simple math. >>
The way I think of it isthat there are only about 100,000 surviving in Unc so that's
only about 10 coins for each modern collector making them "desirable". Only about
2,000 survive in nice attractive BU well made by nice dies and not too gouged up,
and this means there aren't even enough for each modern collector. This last isn't
very widely known so there are lots of people (few thousand) looking for upgrades
and driving the prices.
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By the way, I offered Lauren's services on that bag for $0 in exchange for having a shot at the nicest coin in the bag at a fixed set price (my option). I got no coin and ended up paying Lauren myself for all of the labor costs involved in her carefully screening 4,000 coins. Just another example of the cost (both in time and expense) that goes into trying to build a world class set of coins these days (in this case 1965-1998 clad Washington quarters).
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<< <i>I don't think there is anything special about the 1983 quarter in any grade! >>
Of course not!
And you won't think there's anything special until you try to obtain a nice decent coin.
If that's too easy try finding a type "d" reverse in MS-64.
If you find either it will cost you at least 30 or $40 probably.
I'd suggest you stick with easy coins like an '09-S VDB. If you have the money they're easy to find.
<< <i>My daughter Lauren screened a $1,000 mint sealed bag of 1983-P quarters late last year for a dealer. Only bag of 1983-P I have ever come across in the past 30 years of collecting quarters (but also I have only come across a handful of clad quarter bags for the entire 1965-1998 series!) The bag yielded a sizeable quantity of MS66 coins (it is easy enough to track the pops year over year to see roughly how many) but no MS67's (at least the first time through). I ended up buying no coin from the bag, which was a disappointment as I was hoping to get graded at least -1- coin nicer than the current coin in my set. I personally have no idea why the asking price of MS66's actually went up after this sizeable hoard was added to the MS66 pop report. I believe the Price Guide is too high on this coin in MS66, especially as compared to other clad years and pops. I also have no idea why rolls are bid where they are ... I think those are too high as well... again, compared to other clad quarter dates. That said, I like 1983-P quarters in MS67 quality ... truly a scarce modern coin.
By the way, I offered Lauren's services on that bag for $0 in exchange for having a shot at the nicest coin in the bag at a fixed set price (my option). I got no coin and ended up paying Lauren myself for all of the labor costs involved in her carefully screening 4,000 coins. Just another example of the cost (both in time and expense) that goes into trying to build a world class set of coins these days (in this case 1965-1998 clad Washington quarters).
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Interesting. Do you know and can you provide any details about the origin of the bag?
I've heard of a couple of these but haven't seen one since 1983.
In 1982 a lot of attention and time was spent on the 7 varieties of cents and in 83 there was a double die cent. People were also busy searching for the 82 no P dime.The economy was not great so that may have kept a few people from hoarding bags of quarters?
What would be the average grade of quarters in Mint Sets from that era (80,81,84,? Not real great from what little I have seen. There are some Souvenir sets out there that people bought directly at the mint and they command a pretty good premium.
I would think nice 83-P Kennedy Halves would be relatively high priced in high grades also because I have not seen many good strikes for those either. 83-P nickels also seem to have a high percentage of low quality strikes.
Successful BST deals with mustangt and jesbroken. Now EVERYTHING is for sale.
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<< <i>I don't think there is anything special about the 1983 quarter in any grade! >>
Of course not!
And you won't think there's anything special until you try to obtain a nice decent coin.
If that's too easy try finding a type "d" reverse in MS-64.
If you find either it will cost you at least 30 or $40 probably.
I'd suggest you stick with easy coins like an '09-S VDB. If you have the money they're easy to find. >>
Well, I don't try finding 1909s vdb pennies any longer either......but when I started collecting in the 1960's I certainly did try finding a 1909s vdb and other dated lincolns as well......but it never, ever, occured to me to buy 1964 'modern coins' then,...... and still doesn't.......I won't ever try to obtain
a 1983 quarter cause there are to many other cool coins to collect,......maybe you should try to obtain a nice oringinal skin au 58 bust dollar.
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I'd suggest you stick with easy coins like an '09-S VDB. If you have the money they're easy to find. >>
Well, I don't try finding 1909s vdb pennies any longer either......but when I started collecting in the 1960's I certainly did try finding a 1909s vdb and other dated lincolns as well......but it never, ever, occured to me to buy 1964 'modern coins' then,...... and still doesn't.......I won't ever try to obtain
a 1983 quarter cause there are to many other cool coins to collect,......maybe you should try to obtain a nice oringinal skin au 58 bust dollar. >>
I started collecting in 1957 and sought an '09-S VDB as well. Of course there was no chance of finding
one because every single example had been either saved in '09/ '10 or plucked from circulation by 1945.
I knew I'd never find one because I couldn't even find easy coins like a '15-S or '24-D because every sin-
gle example had been removed from circulation by the millions of collectors who were actively seeking
such coins in circulation. If you did find a slightly better date it was invariably a cull.
This is still the reality. All those coins are still out there but the '83-P quarter is not. The only reason the
'83-P is so cheap is that everyone is still looking for old coins but now they buy them from dealers because
they no longer circulate.
I've collected just about everything and can tell you beyond question that "old" is perspective and nothing
else. In 1963 "old" was any uncirculated coin older than 1956. I collected buffalo nickels at the time but
these were all picked over and mostly dateless by this time. This was the year that millions of silver dollars
came out of long term storage. Over the years I've also collected ancients (mostly Roman) and thought they
were old. Now, I consider all coins moderns because my perspective is from the great pyramid building era
rather than the transition to clad garbage.
There's no right answer on what's old or what one should collect. I like moderns because they are so scarce
but even more importantly they are still in circulation and I have a real chance to find them. In 1963 I could
scan hundreds of rolls of coins and never find anything numismatic. Now, there will be something all the time
because people never saved them and they aren't looking.
Perspective is everything but all perspectives are always fading into the past. People and collectors come and go but only the coins we preserve will survive.
Every day I check my change,and all '83-P quarters I've seen I have kept...I have less than $6 worth. Oh, and I have been looking for over 12 years.
Also I would like to add,if Cladking every wrote a book about coins I would definitely buy it he is a treasure trove of knowledge.
Rob
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Great answer!
The search function is not that easy to master, you are now on my short list "Master Collector"?
Why would anyone want to come here and post if we have a large number of folks on soap boxes trying to dictate the terms of use on this forum....if the powers that be at PCGS have a problem with questions....difficult or obvious I am sure they will chime in.
<< <i>I haven't been able to find anything using the search feature in years and... we are on a coin forum.....if folks aren't supposed to ask questions here then something is seriously wrong. Shame on each of you who let there personal opinions of the Op cloud your judgement about what can and can not be done on a "coin" forum. There isn't one of you who hasn't asked a dumb question that has been answered a million times on these boards...we all do it and there is nothing wrong with it.
Why would anyone want to come here and post if we have a large number of folks on soap boxes trying to dictate the terms of use on this forum....if the powers that be at PCGS have a problem with questions....difficult or obvious I am sure they will chime in.
I agree! I've been ignored for over 10 years and I'm still here.
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<< <i>I haven't been able to find anything using the search feature in years and... we are on a coin forum.....if folks aren't supposed to ask questions here then something is seriously wrong. Shame on each of you who let there personal opinions of the Op cloud your judgement about what can and can not be done on a "coin" forum. There isn't one of you who hasn't asked a dumb question that has been answered a million times on these boards...we all do it and there is nothing wrong with it.
Why would anyone want to come here and post if we have a large number of folks on soap boxes trying to dictate the terms of use on this forum....if the powers that be at PCGS have a problem with questions....difficult or obvious I am sure they will chime in.
It is easy to avoid a thread that asks a common question by simply not opening it.
Certain posters here are unbelievably nasty - you know who you are too!
<< <i>It is easy to avoid a thread that asks a common question by simply not opening it. Certain posters here are unbelievably nasty - you know who you are too! >>
. You can easily find info on how you should search the archives be simply searching the archives on searching the archives.
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Every day I check my change,and all '83-P quarters I've seen I have kept...I have less than $6 worth. Oh, and I have been looking for over 12 years.
Also I would like to add,if Cladking every wrote a book about coins I would definitely buy it he is a treasure trove of knowledge.
Rob >>
I've been telling Cladking this for years, too! He is an amazing source!
And asked any dumb question you want i've been doing it for years and miss spelling it as well.
Hoard the keys.
As I always tell myself,one fun aspect of this hobby is the thrill of the hunt.
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As for the rising price? I think it's a little bit driven by collector exuberance. There has to be enough material in the pipeline to generate buzz. One particular dealer "Squaredeal2012" I believe, out of Texas was selling a 66 a week on ebay for a while.
I see an auction house has BU rolls, possibly from the same bag going for a decent amount. I think the great coin maxim applies "there's no such thing as an unsearched roll".
If those were from the same mint bag, it seems that the owner of the bag got his 66s out, his 65s, and now he's butchering the rest of the bag to make sure he gets all he can get for the marrow, the hoofs, and the tail.