the generic items with low collector demand I simply wont sell as an auction. I list a fair buy it now price with an outstanding detailed description and several images and I point out any distraction or imperfection and have no questions returns for 14 days. I would of sold that coin for $32.50 - 35.00 with a buy it now. If I had seen that coin I would of tried to snipe it at 19 or 20 bucks. Better description and more images would of helped here, point out the die cracks and the surface marks and your opinion about the originality of the surfaces the op's token is a great example of the type and many would want this in an album one can do far worse for the dollars on this very common token.
The collector buying this token is not going to be a specialist or advanced collector but more like a person filling an album either for types of civil war tokens or simply to add to a type set. That being said and in my opinion the token is nice and went at a low price.
<< <i>I lost $3M when I shut my Seattle company down. But it's all relative >>
A guy who can lose 3 MM can afford a little more loss. Go drive up my 1895-S Redfield!
Which by the way started at 99 cents now that I think about it!! >>
LOL
I would still be looking for that lost 3 mil, look under the desk, behind the trashcan, in the closet......
Losing money on paper is not as painful and handing over cash. You can inflate the paper, mark it up or down, write it off etc. Hand over the 100's and they be gone.
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last time i was sick to my stomach over an ebay coin was when "an infamous illinois coin dealer" sold an 1870-cc quarter in a group lot and i was so broke that i couldnt afford to play.... it sold for less than 1/5 of what it should have, lesson i learned was bid to win, figure out how to pay for it at that point
regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
<< <i>I did not like how the story started, " I bought this cheap off a buddy". Sorry you did not make a bunch of money! >>
That's a good point. Many are assuming a $20 loss. Sounds to me more likely about a $5 loss, if the op estimated a sale price of $40 and bought it "cheap." I am getting sick reading this thread about an adult whining about a $5 or $10 or even a $20 loss. If that is a bad day, that person has a great life.
Then again, as some others have pointed out, this might well be an alt ID, doing a troll thread. In that case, nice troll, got a lot of folks to bite. Even some assuming it is a kid. Ha ha on all those responding. These kind of threads and the responses limit my enjoyment of the hobby.
If a real thread, and the op had ripped his buddy and made a killing on the sale, he might have felt like a king. Think about that scenario for a moment and what it means about his/her nature and the nature of the hobby.
<< <i>I did not like how the story started, " I bought this cheap off a buddy". Sorry you did not make a bunch of money! >>
That's a good point. Many are assuming a $20 loss. Sounds to me more likely about a $5 loss, if the op estimated a sale price of $40 and bought it "cheap." I am getting sick reading this thread about an adult whining about a $5 or $10 or even a $20 loss. If that is a bad day, that person has a great life.
Then again, as some others have pointed out, this might well be an alt ID, doing a troll thread. In that case, nice troll, got a lot of folks to bite. Even some assuming it is a kid. Ha ha on all those responding. These kind of threads and the responses limit my enjoyment of the hobby.
If a real thread, and the op had ripped his buddy and made a killing on the sale, he might have felt like a king. Think about that scenario for a moment and what it means about his/her nature and the nature of the hobby. >>
This is what went through my jaded head as well
MJ
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FWIW the OP is 20 years old, on other forums he has gone by the handle "Detecto", well that was until he got banned from them for attacking other members. He is no spring chicken, and definitely not a YN. He has a rap sheet on a particular forum that rivals BNB and Aidan Work. And like them, he joined the litany of the "bammed".
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<< <i>I feel sick to my stomach after reading this. >>
BNB all over again. I saw him at the Ontario show he looked beat up with just some tidbits in his case as he look over them like that little hobit that says my precious.. Hobit link
<< <i>FWIW the OP is 20 years old, on other forums he has gone by the handle "Detecto", well that was until he got banned from them for attacking other members. He is no spring chicken, and definitely not a YN. He has a rap sheet on a particular forum that rivals BNB and Aidan Work. And like them, he joined the litany of the "bammed". >>
Not banned, sanctioned for 10 days, after a new member came onto the forum to do nothing but bash me. I said my piece, and took the punishment for it. The offending member is banned for good. I'm actually probably the most easy going person you will ever know, but everyone has a tolerance, and he more than wore out his welcome.
<< <i>I did not like how the story started, " I bought this cheap off a buddy". Sorry you did not make a bunch of money! >>
That's a good point. Many are assuming a $20 loss. Sounds to me more likely about a $5 loss, if the op estimated a sale price of $40 and bought it "cheap." I am getting sick reading this thread about an adult whining about a $5 or $10 or even a $20 loss. If that is a bad day, that person has a great life.
Then again, as some others have pointed out, this might well be an alt ID, doing a troll thread. In that case, nice troll, got a lot of folks to bite. Even some assuming it is a kid. Ha ha on all those responding. These kind of threads and the responses limit my enjoyment of the hobby.
If a real thread, and the op had ripped his buddy and made a killing on the sale, he might have felt like a king. Think about that scenario for a moment and what it means about his/her nature and the nature of the hobby. >>
FWIW, I bought the CWT for $40. I was thinking I could flip it for $60-$70. I did not have access to the internet or a price guide. I thought $40 for a near UNC CWT was a good buy. After seeing what the coin sold for, and after reading this thread, I realize $20 was a lesson...don't buy a coin if you don't understand it's value.
I work on a small budget, so yes, $20+ was a hard lump to swallow.
In the end, I was the one ripped off, because I spent $40 on something worth $20. Next time, I will make sure I know it's value before proceeding.
I feel your pain! I had a $5 bill in my coat pocket the other day and somehow lost it! It has made me sleep deprived and depressed!
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<< <i>I will admit, I am not the 1st nor the last to loose money in the subject of coin collecting. I've seen many coins that were good buys, and almost pulled the trigger, until I looked at completed auctions on eBay. Last night Great Collections had a BTW half dollar PCGS MS-66, for $85. PCGS price guide showed $150. I almost bought it, until I looked and saw one in the same grade and TPG sold for $102 in auction on eBay. I think the most important thing any coin collector can do, is to educate him or herself on the values of coins. >>
Hence my reply to your other post about Coin Facts. You should invest in that to educate yourself, especially if $20 is a hard lump to swallow. Good luck to you. We have all made mistakes. We have also gained lots. Hopefully, with experience, you will win more than you lose. If not, then you need to rethink your agenda.
<< <i>I did not like how the story started, " I bought this cheap off a buddy". Sorry you did not make a bunch of money! >>
That's a good point. Many are assuming a $20 loss. Sounds to me more likely about a $5 loss, if the op estimated a sale price of $40 and bought it "cheap." I am getting sick reading this thread about an adult whining about a $5 or $10 or even a $20 loss. If that is a bad day, that person has a great life.
Then again, as some others have pointed out, this might well be an alt ID, doing a troll thread. In that case, nice troll, got a lot of folks to bite. Even some assuming it is a kid. Ha ha on all those responding. These kind of threads and the responses limit my enjoyment of the hobby.
If a real thread, and the op had ripped his buddy and made a killing on the sale, he might have felt like a king. Think about that scenario for a moment and what it means about his/her nature and the nature of the hobby. >>
FWIW, I bought the CWT for $40. I was thinking I could flip it for $60-$70. I did not have access to the internet or a price guide. I thought $40 for a near UNC CWT was a good buy. After seeing what the coin sold for, and after reading this thread, I realize $20 was a lesson...don't buy a coin if you don't understand it's value.
I work on a small budget, so yes, $20+ was a hard lump to swallow.
In the end, I was the one ripped off, because I spent $40 on something worth $20. Next time, I will make sure I know it's value before proceeding. >>
How did you get ripped off? Sounded like you willingly bought it and then sent it out to the open market?
Now this is what i would do. I would go out looking for it raw pay $10 or $20 Bucks for it, Then send it in and have it graded for $28 then sell it to some one for a profit @ $102 Dollars on Fee-bay. But that is just me dum Type2.
<< <i>I get the feeling that Coinbuyer12 is a young kid that is new to coin dealing and that $20 is a lot of money to him. >>
I think it is much more likely that CoinBuyer12 has significant history on other coin boards under a different user name. >>
He did until he was either bammed or as he posts here "sanctioned for 10 days", but what about the metal detecting forum he got bammed from after posting about detecting in cemeteries and posting pictures of relics he dug up in said cemetery:
He does indeed have a significant history and he is no spring chicken, aka a kid, more like he is probably a 20 year old from Illinois that buys and sells a lot on eBay under this handle:
<< <i>Dunno. I usually start everything at 4.99, and always end up doing well. This is really a 1st for me. I was hoping this would of least brought $35-$40, it still has mint luster for pete's sake! >>
edited to remove the "Welcome to the Club" since this fella has obviously been a member for a very long time masquerading as a kid.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>I cannot begin to tell you how many CWT's, HTT's and other tokens....not to mention coins that I have bought and sold at tremendous losses. Not to make light of what you just sold. Yes it probably should have sold for $40-60 but if you do a .99 auction and not a BIN/ make offer that's what can happen.
I have bought $1.200 toned Morgan CC's only to turn around and sell it for $400-600. And I am not the first nor the last one who has experienced this.
Again I don't mean to sound negative but that's what happens.
Now on the other hand I have done some absolute killer cherry picks on eBay and you may have done so If not you will one day >>
Where's the "Like" button??
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>I get the feeling that Coinbuyer12 is a young kid that is new to coin dealing and that $20 is a lot of money to him. >>
I think it is much more likely that CoinBuyer12 has significant history on other coin boards under a different user name. >>
He did until he was either bammed or as he posts here "sanctioned for 10 days", but what about the metal detecting forum he got bammed from after posting about detecting in cemeteries and posting pictures of relics he dug up in said cemetery:
He does indeed have a significant history and he is no spring chicken, aka a kid, more like he is probably a 20 year old from Illinois that buys and sells a lot on eBay under this handle:
Sorry, not the reason I was banned. FWIW, I do metal detect in cemeteries. But I only detect along parking areas, where people might have gotten out and dropped some change. I do not get anywhere near burial sites. I am the caretaker of a Cemetery next to me.
All auctions are suspect on ebay now. I have serious doubts that you get as much exposure as you did even recently with all the insanity in the search changes.
I say this because I have gotten so frustrated lately that I stopped buying on ebay completely. Half the time I have trouble find my own listings.
My search methods no longer work and I miss tons of items and I can't be the only one. At the very least listing as a BIN keeps you from giving an item away.
Sorry, not the reason I was banned. FWIW, I do metal detect in cemeteries. But I only detect along parking areas, where people might have gotten out and dropped some change. I do not get anywhere near burial sites. >>
Do you get permission from whomever manages the cemetery? A municipal authority, a church etc? Or do you just tippy toe in after hours and go about your ghoulish pursuits without any such permission?
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Agreed. eBay has constantly fixed what is not broken.
I used to be able to use the * symbol to search for a year range. I could search for (181*, 182*, 183*, 184*) and get coins from 1810 to 1849.
They did away with the "wild card" search.
Then you used to be able to use the minus sign to exclude things. I could search -details and find only problem free slabs. They did away with that too!
Then you can't type in a max price anymore, you have to use a slider, which is too touch and can sometimes go in increments of $100.
I wish they at least had a box to type in a year range.
<< <i>I've had coins sell for less than face. You did OK compared to that.... >>
I was once the under bidder on a lot that went at exactly face and they offered me a second-chance buy at my bid (below face) I took it thinking it might be a scam but it was legit
And they were the collectible westward nickel rolls so it was a nice little deal!
So you were bammed - tell us, please do share, what is it like to be bammed from a forum, apparently not just one forum but several. Are you in fact BNB in sheeps clothing? Jarrett you there?
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I went to a coin auction once, there was probably 100 ike dollars. They all sold for $1.25 each. After commission, the seller would of gotten less than face value. He also had a few tins of nothing but pocket change, hoping to fool someone. They sold for 50 cents over face value. Again, he got less than FV.
The auction houses here charge 33% commission. Kind of foolish to even sell coins at that amount. I've seen tons of silver dollars sell for a decentq amount, but after commission, a pawn shop would of probably had a better payout.
There were several people on this forum that were experts in antiques. I posted a thread asking about a really old pair of porcelain frogs that were "anatomically correct". This did not go over well with a mod, and out the door I went.
Actually did not mind being banned from that forum. Even glad...It was a friendly place when I signed up, but the mods started getting ridiculously strict with members, and then they started playing favorites. Me and about a half a dozen other prominent members got fed up as well.
It had gotten so bad, that one of the mods started their own forum, so existing members could finally relax a little.
<< <i>I get the feeling that Coinbuyer12 is a young kid that is new to coin dealing and that $20 is a lot of money to him. >>
I think it is much more likely that CoinBuyer12 has significant history on other coin boards under a different user name. >>
He did until he was either bammed or as he posts here "sanctioned for 10 days", but what about the metal detecting forum he got bammed from after posting about detecting in cemeteries and posting pictures of relics he dug up in said cemetery:
He does indeed have a significant history and he is no spring chicken, aka a kid, more like he is probably a 20 year old from Illinois that buys and sells a lot on eBay under this handle:
<< <i>Start a new post on digs. I would like to see some of that stuff any Gold rings? Gold teeth.Oh I have a shovel and like to dig. >>
I have worried about accidentally running into a grave when metal detecting. However, when I find things, they are usually no more than 7 inches deep. I am not a "cache hunter", or a meteorite hunter, they use equipment that goes down several feet. Most coins are not deeper than 6-7 inches in the ground. If I find skeletal remains at 6 inches, then I would probably call the police. That would not be someone buried, that would be a crime scene!
<< <i> I posted a thread asking about a really old pair of porcelain frogs that were "anatomically correct". This did not go over well with a mod, and out the door I went.
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Hmm, anatomically correct frogs. Indeed you do have strange tastes.
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<< <i>I get the feeling that Coinbuyer12 is a young kid that is new to coin dealing and that $20 is a lot of money to him. >>
I think it is much more likely that CoinBuyer12 has significant history on other coin boards under a different user name. >>
He did until he was either bammed or as he posts here "sanctioned for 10 days", but what about the metal detecting forum he got bammed from after posting about detecting in cemeteries and posting pictures of relics he dug up in said cemetery:
He does indeed have a significant history and he is no spring chicken, aka a kid, more like he is probably a 20 year old from Illinois that buys and sells a lot on eBay under this handle:
Wait a minute here. 20 years old with an eBay account from 2003? Selling "well packed" chain saws at the age of 12? (Jan-10-04)
I expect that I've learned more about Detecto in this thread than I really wanted to. >>
That is my parents account. I do not have the time or the patience for eBay. I take pictures, write descriptions, then my parents list it. Besides the fees, I pay them a percentage for listing things.
<< <i> I posted a thread asking about a really old pair of porcelain frogs that were "anatomically correct". This did not go over well with a mod, and out the door I went.
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Hmm, anatomically correct frogs. Indeed you do have strange tastes. >>
Unusual stuff like that can be worth a lot of money. I bought a baby shark in a glass jar, (there is a company that produces them), for one dollar at a yard sale. I got $80 for it on eBay. Some people collect really "out there" stuff.
I expect that I've learned more about Detecto in this thread than I really wanted to. >>
That is my parents account. I do not have the time or the patience for eBay. I take pictures, write descriptions, then my parents list it. Besides the fees, I pay them a percentage for listing things. >>
Really? You do a fair bit of buying on "your" account, well indeed you did until that is when Paypal bammed you for having multiple accounts. The problem is, you have a digital legacy all over AlGore's internets and your life story is out there...
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Yes. I have my own account for buying. However I don't buy much anymore on eBay. Save for a few sellers, that allow me to use my Debit Card to pay for things.
<< <i>Yes. I have my own account for buying. However I don't buy much anymore on eBay. Save for a few sellers, that allow me to use my Debit Card to pay for things. >>
Yeah can be a real pantscr@pper buying stuff on eBay when you done got bammed from payPal for having an unpaid balance of $100 for over 60 days. Good thing mommy's debit card still works.
BTW folks he is not some kid, he claims to be 20 years old, but other sources via search engines have him at 29 years old. Kind of enigmatic, ala Kim Jong Un of North Korea.
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The collector buying this token is not going to be a specialist or advanced collector but more like a person filling an album either for types of civil war tokens or simply to add to a type set. That being said and in my opinion the token is nice and went at a low price.
<< <i>I did not like how the story started, " I bought this cheap off a buddy". Sorry you did not make a bunch of money! >>
Carma will get you all the time. Next time Just give him less
Hoard the keys.
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<< <i>I lost $3M when I shut my Seattle company down. But it's all relative >>
A guy who can lose 3 MM can afford a little more loss. Go drive up my 1895-S Redfield!
Which by the way started at 99 cents now that I think about it!! >>
LOL
I would still be looking for that lost 3 mil, look under the desk, behind the trashcan, in the closet......
Losing money on paper is not as painful and handing over cash. You can inflate the paper, mark it up or down, write it off etc. Hand over the 100's and they be gone.
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<< <i>Sometimes you get the bull, sometimes you get the horns
MJ >>
Sometimes you are the windshield, sometimes you are the bug
<< <i>I did not like how the story started, " I bought this cheap off a buddy". Sorry you did not make a bunch of money! >>
That's a good point. Many are assuming a $20 loss. Sounds to me more likely about a $5 loss, if the op estimated a sale price of $40 and bought it "cheap." I am getting sick reading this thread about an adult whining about a $5 or $10 or even a $20 loss. If that is a bad day, that person has a great life.
Then again, as some others have pointed out, this might well be an alt ID, doing a troll thread. In that case, nice troll, got a lot of folks to bite. Even some assuming it is a kid. Ha ha on all those responding. These kind of threads and the responses limit my enjoyment of the hobby.
If a real thread, and the op had ripped his buddy and made a killing on the sale, he might have felt like a king. Think about that scenario for a moment and what it means about his/her nature and the nature of the hobby.
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<< <i>I did not like how the story started, " I bought this cheap off a buddy". Sorry you did not make a bunch of money! >>
That's a good point. Many are assuming a $20 loss. Sounds to me more likely about a $5 loss, if the op estimated a sale price of $40 and bought it "cheap." I am getting sick reading this thread about an adult whining about a $5 or $10 or even a $20 loss. If that is a bad day, that person has a great life.
Then again, as some others have pointed out, this might well be an alt ID, doing a troll thread. In that case, nice troll, got a lot of folks to bite. Even some assuming it is a kid. Ha ha on all those responding. These kind of threads and the responses limit my enjoyment of the hobby.
If a real thread, and the op had ripped his buddy and made a killing on the sale, he might have felt like a king. Think about that scenario for a moment and what it means about his/her nature and the nature of the hobby. >>
This is what went through my jaded head as well
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>This is what went through my jaded head as well
MJ >>
Yeah ... I had to edit my above supportive post after re-reading the OP.
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<< <i>I feel sick to my stomach after reading this. >>
Hoard the keys.
Sound like a smart guy.
Eric
<< <i>FWIW the OP is 20 years old, on other forums he has gone by the handle "Detecto", well that was until he got banned from them for attacking other members. He is no spring chicken, and definitely not a YN. He has a rap sheet on a particular forum that rivals BNB and Aidan Work. And like them, he joined the litany of the "bammed". >>
Not banned, sanctioned for 10 days, after a new member came onto the forum to do nothing but bash me. I said my piece, and took the punishment for it. The offending member is banned for good. I'm actually probably the most easy going person you will ever know, but everyone has a tolerance, and he more than wore out his welcome.
<< <i>"I bought this cheap off a buddy"
Sound like a smart guy.
Eric >>
The guy that sold it or the OP?
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<< <i>I did not like how the story started, " I bought this cheap off a buddy". Sorry you did not make a bunch of money! >>
That's a good point. Many are assuming a $20 loss. Sounds to me more likely about a $5 loss, if the op estimated a sale price of $40 and bought it "cheap." I am getting sick reading this thread about an adult whining about a $5 or $10 or even a $20 loss. If that is a bad day, that person has a great life.
Then again, as some others have pointed out, this might well be an alt ID, doing a troll thread. In that case, nice troll, got a lot of folks to bite. Even some assuming it is a kid. Ha ha on all those responding. These kind of threads and the responses limit my enjoyment of the hobby.
If a real thread, and the op had ripped his buddy and made a killing on the sale, he might have felt like a king. Think about that scenario for a moment and what it means about his/her nature and the nature of the hobby. >>
FWIW, I bought the CWT for $40. I was thinking I could flip it for $60-$70. I did not have access to the internet or a price guide. I thought $40 for a near UNC CWT was a good buy. After seeing what the coin sold for, and after reading this thread, I realize $20 was a lesson...don't buy a coin if you don't understand it's value.
I work on a small budget, so yes, $20+ was a hard lump to swallow.
In the end, I was the one ripped off, because I spent $40 on something worth $20. Next time, I will make sure I know it's value before proceeding.
<< <i>Sometimes you are the windshield, sometimes you are the bug >>
This is a very good analogy!! I think I will adopt this phrase.
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I suppose that when I was 20, a $20 loss would have meant something.
There are all kinds of ways to make and lose money in numismatics, but fortune tends to reward the good eye.
If you stick to high standards, and hedge your bets, you can still make a lot of money in the face of individual big losses.
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I've seen many coins that were good buys, and almost pulled the trigger, until I looked at completed auctions on eBay.
Last night Great Collections had a BTW half dollar PCGS MS-66, for $85.
PCGS price guide showed $150. I almost bought it, until I looked and saw one in the same grade and TPG sold for $102 in auction on eBay.
I think the most important thing any coin collector can do, is to educate him or herself on the values of coins.
<< <i>I will admit, I am not the 1st nor the last to loose money in the subject of coin collecting.
I've seen many coins that were good buys, and almost pulled the trigger, until I looked at completed auctions on eBay.
Last night Great Collections had a BTW half dollar PCGS MS-66, for $85.
PCGS price guide showed $150. I almost bought it, until I looked and saw one in the same grade and TPG sold for $102 in auction on eBay.
I think the most important thing any coin collector can do, is to educate him or herself on the values of coins. >>
Hence my reply to your other post about Coin Facts. You should invest in that to educate yourself, especially if $20 is a hard lump to swallow. Good luck to you. We have all made mistakes. We have also gained lots. Hopefully, with experience, you will win more than you lose. If not, then you need to rethink your agenda.
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<< <i>I did not like how the story started, " I bought this cheap off a buddy". Sorry you did not make a bunch of money! >>
That's a good point. Many are assuming a $20 loss. Sounds to me more likely about a $5 loss, if the op estimated a sale price of $40 and bought it "cheap." I am getting sick reading this thread about an adult whining about a $5 or $10 or even a $20 loss. If that is a bad day, that person has a great life.
Then again, as some others have pointed out, this might well be an alt ID, doing a troll thread. In that case, nice troll, got a lot of folks to bite. Even some assuming it is a kid. Ha ha on all those responding. These kind of threads and the responses limit my enjoyment of the hobby.
If a real thread, and the op had ripped his buddy and made a killing on the sale, he might have felt like a king. Think about that scenario for a moment and what it means about his/her nature and the nature of the hobby. >>
FWIW, I bought the CWT for $40. I was thinking I could flip it for $60-$70. I did not have access to the internet or a price guide. I thought $40 for a near UNC CWT was a good buy. After seeing what the coin sold for, and after reading this thread, I realize $20 was a lesson...don't buy a coin if you don't understand it's value.
I work on a small budget, so yes, $20+ was a hard lump to swallow.
In the end, I was the one ripped off, because I spent $40 on something worth $20. Next time, I will make sure I know it's value before proceeding. >>
How did you get ripped off? Sounded like you willingly bought it and then sent it out to the open market?
Coin's for sale/trade.
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<< <i>...I work on a small budget, so yes, $20+ was a hard lump to swallow.... >>
Obviously you have never bought lunch at the Baltimore Expo.
Hoard the keys.
<< <i>Last night Great Collections had a BTW half dollar PCGS MS-66, for $85.
PCGS price guide showed $150. I almost bought it, until I looked and saw one in the same grade and TPG sold for $102 in auction on eBay.
I think the most important thing any coin collector can do, is to educate him or herself on the values of coins. >>
Or at least one might think
One of the hardest things to learn in numismatics is that value is subjective.
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Matt’s Mattes
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<< <i>I get the feeling that Coinbuyer12 is a young kid that is new to coin dealing and that $20 is a lot of money to him. >>
I think it is much more likely that CoinBuyer12 has significant history on other coin boards under a different user name. >>
He did until he was either bammed or as he posts here "sanctioned for 10 days", but what about the metal detecting forum he got bammed from after posting about detecting in cemeteries and posting pictures of relics he dug up in said cemetery:
Relic allegedly dug up by OP in a cemetery
He does indeed have a significant history and he is no spring chicken, aka a kid, more like he is probably a 20 year old from Illinois that buys and sells a lot on eBay under this handle:
Even selling the CWT he lost his shirt on despite the fact he apparently claims to have been bammed by Paypal for having multiple accounts.
Most of what is there, are regular circulating coins, or modern commemoratives.
<< <i>Dunno. I usually start everything at 4.99, and always end up doing well. This is really a 1st for me. I was hoping this would of least brought $35-$40, it still has mint luster for pete's sake! >>
edited to remove the "Welcome to the Club" since this fella has obviously been a member for a very long time masquerading as a kid.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>I cannot begin to tell you how many CWT's, HTT's and other tokens....not to mention coins that
I have bought and sold at tremendous losses. Not to make light of what you just sold. Yes it probably should
have sold for $40-60 but if you do a .99 auction and not a BIN/ make offer that's what can happen.
I have bought $1.200 toned Morgan CC's only to turn around and sell it for $400-600.
And I am not the first nor the last one who has experienced this.
Again I don't mean to sound negative but that's what happens.
Now on the other hand I have done some absolute killer cherry picks on eBay and you may have done so
If not you will one day
Where's the "Like" button??
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>I get the feeling that Coinbuyer12 is a young kid that is new to coin dealing and that $20 is a lot of money to him. >>
I think it is much more likely that CoinBuyer12 has significant history on other coin boards under a different user name. >>
He did until he was either bammed or as he posts here "sanctioned for 10 days", but what about the metal detecting forum he got bammed from after posting about detecting in cemeteries and posting pictures of relics he dug up in said cemetery:
Relic allegedly dug up by OP in a cemetery
He does indeed have a significant history and he is no spring chicken, aka a kid, more like he is probably a 20 year old from Illinois that buys and sells a lot on eBay under this handle:
Even selling the CWT he lost his shirt on despite the fact he apparently claims to have been bammed by Paypal for having multiple accounts. >>
Sorry, not the reason I was banned. FWIW, I do metal detect in cemeteries. But I only detect along parking areas, where people might have gotten out and dropped some change. I do not get anywhere near burial sites. I am the caretaker of a Cemetery next to me.
All auctions are suspect on ebay now. I have serious doubts that you get as much exposure as you did even recently with all the insanity in the search changes.
I say this because I have gotten so frustrated lately that I stopped buying on ebay completely. Half the time I have trouble find my own listings.
My search methods no longer work and I miss tons of items and I can't be the only one. At the very least listing as a BIN keeps you from giving an item away.
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Sorry, not the reason I was banned. FWIW, I do metal detect in cemeteries. But I only detect along parking areas, where people might have gotten out and dropped some change. I do not get anywhere near burial sites. >>
Do you get permission from whomever manages the cemetery? A municipal authority, a church etc? Or do you just tippy toe in after hours and go about your ghoulish pursuits without any such permission?
I used to be able to use the * symbol to search for a year range. I could search for (181*, 182*, 183*, 184*) and get coins from 1810 to 1849.
They did away with the "wild card" search.
Then you used to be able to use the minus sign to exclude things. I could search -details and find only problem free slabs. They did away with that too!
Then you can't type in a max price anymore, you have to use a slider, which is too touch and can sometimes go in increments of $100.
I wish they at least had a box to type in a year range.
<< <i>I've had coins sell for less than face. You did OK compared to that....
I was once the under bidder on a lot that went at exactly face and they offered me a second-chance buy at my bid (below face)
And they were the collectible westward nickel rolls so it was a nice little deal!
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Sorry, not the reason I was banned. >>
So you were bammed - tell us, please do share, what is it like to be bammed from a forum, apparently not just one forum but several. Are you in fact BNB in sheeps clothing? Jarrett you there?
good lord is this thread still going on?
i've been getting one of those feelings and this is just enforcing it
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The auction houses here charge 33% commission. Kind of foolish to even sell coins at that amount. I've seen tons of silver dollars sell for a decentq amount, but after commission, a pawn shop would of probably had a better payout.
Hoard the keys.
There were several people on this forum that were experts in antiques. I posted a thread asking about a really old pair of porcelain frogs that were "anatomically correct". This did not go over well with a mod, and out the door I went.
Actually did not mind being banned from that forum. Even glad...It was a friendly place when I signed up, but the mods started getting ridiculously strict with members, and then they started playing favorites. Me and about a half a dozen other prominent members got fed up as well.
It had gotten so bad, that one of the mods started their own forum, so existing members could finally relax a little.
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<< <i>I get the feeling that Coinbuyer12 is a young kid that is new to coin dealing and that $20 is a lot of money to him. >>
I think it is much more likely that CoinBuyer12 has significant history on other coin boards under a different user name. >>
He did until he was either bammed or as he posts here "sanctioned for 10 days", but what about the metal detecting forum he got bammed from after posting about detecting in cemeteries and posting pictures of relics he dug up in said cemetery:
Relic allegedly dug up by OP in a cemetery
He does indeed have a significant history and he is no spring chicken, aka a kid, more like he is probably a 20 year old from Illinois that buys and sells a lot on eBay under this handle:
Even selling the CWT he lost his shirt on despite the fact he apparently claims to have been bammed by Paypal for having multiple accounts. >>
Wait a minute here.
20 years old with an eBay account from 2003?
Selling "well packed" chain saws at the age of 12? (Jan-10-04)
I expect that I've learned more about Detecto in this thread than I really wanted to.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>Start a new post on digs. I would like to see some of that stuff any Gold rings? Gold teeth.Oh I have a shovel and like to dig.
I have worried about accidentally running into a grave when metal detecting. However, when I find things, they are usually no more than 7 inches deep. I am not a "cache hunter", or a meteorite hunter, they use equipment that goes down several feet. Most coins are not deeper than 6-7 inches in the ground. If I find skeletal remains at 6 inches, then I would probably call the police. That would not be someone buried, that would be a crime scene!
<< <i> I posted a thread asking about a really old pair of porcelain frogs that were "anatomically correct". This did not go over well with a mod, and out the door I went.
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Hmm, anatomically correct frogs. Indeed you do have strange tastes.
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<< <i>I get the feeling that Coinbuyer12 is a young kid that is new to coin dealing and that $20 is a lot of money to him. >>
I think it is much more likely that CoinBuyer12 has significant history on other coin boards under a different user name. >>
He did until he was either bammed or as he posts here "sanctioned for 10 days", but what about the metal detecting forum he got bammed from after posting about detecting in cemeteries and posting pictures of relics he dug up in said cemetery:
Relic allegedly dug up by OP in a cemetery
He does indeed have a significant history and he is no spring chicken, aka a kid, more like he is probably a 20 year old from Illinois that buys and sells a lot on eBay under this handle:
Even selling the CWT he lost his shirt on despite the fact he apparently claims to have been bammed by Paypal for having multiple accounts. >>
Wait a minute here.
20 years old with an eBay account from 2003?
Selling "well packed" chain saws at the age of 12? (Jan-10-04)
I expect that I've learned more about Detecto in this thread than I really wanted to. >>
That is my parents account. I do not have the time or the patience for eBay. I take pictures, write descriptions, then my parents list it. Besides the fees, I pay them a percentage for listing things.
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<< <i> I posted a thread asking about a really old pair of porcelain frogs that were "anatomically correct". This did not go over well with a mod, and out the door I went.
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Hmm, anatomically correct frogs. Indeed you do have strange tastes. >>
Unusual stuff like that can be worth a lot of money. I bought a baby shark in a glass jar, (there is a company that produces them), for one dollar at a yard sale. I got $80 for it on eBay. Some people collect really "out there" stuff.
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I expect that I've learned more about Detecto in this thread than I really wanted to. >>
That is my parents account. I do not have the time or the patience for eBay. I take pictures, write descriptions, then my parents list it. Besides the fees, I pay them a percentage for listing things. >>
Really? You do a fair bit of buying on "your" account, well indeed you did until that is when Paypal bammed you for having multiple accounts. The problem is, you have a digital legacy all over AlGore's internets and your life story is out there...
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<< <i>"I bought this cheap off a buddy"
Sound like a smart guy.
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The guy that sold it or the OP? >>
Well, the guy who sold to the OP didn't need a five page support group thread
Eric
<< <i>Yes. I have my own account for buying. However I don't buy much anymore on eBay. Save for a few sellers, that allow me to use my Debit Card to pay for things. >>
Yeah can be a real pantscr@pper buying stuff on eBay when you done got bammed from payPal for having an unpaid balance of $100 for over 60 days. Good thing mommy's debit card still works.
BTW folks he is not some kid, he claims to be 20 years old, but other sources via search engines have him at 29 years old. Kind of enigmatic, ala Kim Jong Un of North Korea.