I don't have my books with me but I think the D is in the wrong place.
I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector. Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
I'll say authentic.....the D is the corrct D and in an acceptable place, the mix of the metal is ok, and it has the appearance of the die break from the shoulder to the rim...
<< <i>I own more than a dozen,and it looks real.Don't think it would grade with all that nasty PVC and verdigris. >>
Agree. That coin has some serious problems. Would this coin be a good candidate for PCGS's new coin conservation service?
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Look for a die crack from the bottom of the bust to the rim. It's directly straight down from the 1 in the date. If it has it its real. But not all real ones have it.
Looks OK to me, but could use a long soak in mineral oil and then a bit of toothpick work on the crusty spots.
Would it grade? I dunno. Might get a "Gennie" holder, but even that notation of it being genuine is more important than whether or not it gets a technical grade. In TPG plastic, even the "Genuine" holder, it would most likely find a buyer.
If only there was a company that you could send your coin to. Maybe they would hire experts in authentication that could give you a definite answer on the coin. They might even encase it in a plastic holder to protect it....
If only.
My opinion is that the coin is genuine, by the way, but why let that get in the way of attempted humor?
<< <i>If only there was a company that you could send your coin to. Maybe they would hire experts in authentication that could give you a definite answer on the coin. They might even encase it in a plastic holder to protect it....
If only. >>
Maybe he doesn't own the coin and he's considering buying it, possibily off eBay or some other venue. Maybe he doesn't want the coin slabbed since he just wants to put it in his cent album. Maybe he doesn't want to pay the cost of slabbing and shipping with insurance both ways. Matbe he just wanted a few opinions.
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<< <i>I own more than a dozen,and it looks real.Don't think it would grade with all that nasty PVC and verdigris. >>
I agree. The piece is genuine, but it has problems.
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I don't have my books with me but I think the D is in the wrong place.
Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
i'm going with authentic.
the D is in very different places on a few of the obv dies and the apparent woodgrain is a strong indicator of authenticity
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I don't have my books with me but I think the D is in the wrong place. >>
Actually, I was thinking the D is in the RIGHT place. But I'll admit, I'm not an expert at authenticating this particular date/mm.
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i'm going with authentic.
the D is in very different places on a few of the obv dies and the apparent woodgrain is a strong indicator of authenticity
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I wouldn't say woodgrain is a strong indicator of authenticity. I have seen counterfeit 1909-S VDBs with woodgrain.
with all that nasty PVC and verdigris.
<< <i>I own more than a dozen,and it looks real.Don't think it would grade
with all that nasty PVC and verdigris. >>
Agree. That coin has some serious problems. Would this coin be a good candidate for PCGS's new coin conservation service?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I do see corrosion and a BB in its future.
Not a fan.
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Would it grade? I dunno. Might get a "Gennie" holder, but even that notation of it being genuine is more important than whether or not it gets a technical grade. In TPG plastic, even the "Genuine" holder, it would most likely find a buyer.
that could give you a definite answer on the coin. They might even encase it in a plastic holder to protect it....
If only.
My opinion is that the coin is genuine, by the way, but why let that get in the way of attempted humor?
<< <i>If only there was a company that you could send your coin to. Maybe they would hire experts in authentication
that could give you a definite answer on the coin. They might even encase it in a plastic holder to protect it....
If only.
Maybe he doesn't own the coin and he's considering buying it, possibily off eBay or some other venue. Maybe he doesn't want the coin slabbed since he just wants to put it in his cent album. Maybe he doesn't want to pay the cost of slabbing and shipping with insurance both ways. Matbe he just wanted a few opinions.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>I own more than a dozen,and it looks real.Don't think it would grade
with all that nasty PVC and verdigris. >>
I agree. The piece is genuine, but it has problems.