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It's really tough going from a sizable collection to a Box of 20!

BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
About 3 years ago like many others on this forum I started considering putting together a Box of 20 of coins in my collection that I'd like to keep indefinitely. Well I've never managed to fill this Box without some level of frustration and just walking away from it until the next try. I've finally come to the conclusion that the Box of 20 collecting method just doesn't work. The main issue is the Box itself is like the Ark and I'm Noah... So in order for the Penguin to go the Giraffe needs to be left behind. If the Water Buffalo goes then Koala Bear is out. I could go through all the animals but I'm sure you all get the point.

How tough has it been for the rest of you who have made this transition image

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,814 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>About 3 years ago like many others on this forum I started considering putting together a Box of 20 of coins in my collection that I'd like to keep indefinitely. Well I've never managed to fill this Box without some frustration and just walking away from it until the next try. I've finally come to the conclusion that the Box of 20 collecting method doesn't work. The main issue is the Box itself is like the Ark and I'm Noah... So in order for the Penguin to go the Giraffe needs to be left behind. If the Water Buffalo goes then Koala Bear is out. I could go though all the animals but I'm sure you all get the point. How tough has it been for the rest of you who have made this transition? >>



    Koala bears are nasty animals!
    Best they had been left off the Ark!
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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Koala bear riding the face!! image

    I have no idea how a collector can hold to a box of 20. i would be hard pressed to stick to a box of 200...
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  • SmEagle1795SmEagle1795 Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hard, but a switch flipped in my mind when I started seeing which ones I'd sell, and I had only a box of 15 for a long time (down from 500+) as I couldn't add pieces of high enough quality. Now I clock in at 22 - I have an old Bowers and Merena auction box which holds 26 so I don't mind going slightly over the limit of 20. Perhaps I'm not as strict as others in that I'm fine if I go over or under by a few pieces. The main concept still applies of quality over quantity and I force myself to remain cognizant of this when adding pieces.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Koala bears are nasty animals!
    Best they had been left off the Ark!
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    OMG I'm dying here braddick as I so wasn't expecting that! imageimageimage
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I figure the box of 20 doesn't mean you can't have others. image

    So there's the box of 20, next door to the box of 64, and the other one. Those damned Mint sets get in the way. Gotta lose them.
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think you've missed the point of the Box of 20 method of collecting.

    The box of 20 is simply a symbol...a metaphor.

    You should not focus on the number. Instead, you should focus on the quality of your collection and the idea that having fewer coins of higher quality is better than having many coins of lower quality.
  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
    braddickimage




    I am in a simaliar situation. I started about a year, maybe year and half ago.
    I first had to clear out many coins and tokens to start narrowing down.

    Then I started on a box of 20, I found it extremely difficult so I said to myself.....ok I will do
    a type set and maybe cut it down later.

    After thinning out the coins I found that there were only a few keepers and would have to search for new ones that I
    would like to keep indefinitely..

    Well I have only been able to obtain a few coins that I would say will be keepers and finding myself
    buying moderns for the type set as they are easier to obtain.


    So the hunt continuesimage







  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I would have a hard time putting together a box of ten boxes of twenty. What can I say, I like my coins? Let us narrow it down to only Capped Bust Half Dollars. I think I could narrow it down to about four boxes of twenty, but it would be very hard. Isn't coin collecting fun?
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,078 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've done the mental gymnastics for a Bo20 and have never been able to come up to twenty coins to fill the box.image
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  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154
    OK "method" for an investor, for a collector; not so much.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,605 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Transitions are never easy.
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    No can do for me, maybe 40-60 is possible for me
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the basic premise of the box of 20 method is no different than trading up for a better coin.
  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154


    << <i>I think the basic premise of the box of 20 method is no different than trading up for a better coin. >>



    This is a really good point and one I hadn't considered. I guess I was fixated on the number 20. My Franklin set will never have less than 35 coins but it rarely has more than 37-38. I sell the dupes quickly.
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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I find 100 works better for me for what I call primary inventory. This is just coins only as currency is easy to stack and does not weigh what bulk coins do. The rest can be small stuff.

    80 slabbed coins will fill up a case at a coin show and extras can be stacked. The other case can be used for currency with primary displayed and the rest stacked.
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  • It may sound weird but I like so many collectors have a wide area of interests so even after I found a focus and specialized I used the box of 20 concept to control the coins outside my main collection. If it doesn't fit one has to go. It keeps my investment outside my main collection minimal and allows me to keep a few random joys.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It may sound weird but I like so many collectors have a wide area of interests so even after I found a focus and specialized I used the box of 20 concept to control the coins outside my main collection. If it doesn't fit one has to go. It keeps my investment outside my main collection minimal and allows me to keep a few random joys. >>



    This is my method as well weirdo.

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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just did 2 boxes of 20,....40 coins total, i keep it within that
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Broadstruck has always shown a deeper exploration of his esoteric pieces and I think most of his delight is not merely hunting a coin down but knowing every last detail about it. That's a collecting style that demands a constant stream of interesting purchases. I can't see him enjoying looking at and enjoying the same 20 pieces longer than 24 months.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I could never bring my 644 coins Complete Dime Complete Variety Set down to 20! image

    A box of 20 in addition to my Dime set would be OK...I guess.image
  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭


    << <i>OK "method" for an investor, for a collector; not so much. >>



    +1. I think this sums it up.
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  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When I sold most of my collection, I didn't want to sell everything. So I looked at everything and decided which coins I really, really wanted to keep.

    I think this illustrates the box of 20 concept, the number of coins isn't that relevant.

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have talked about doing some version of this, over the years, but I have not been able to execute it. image
  • KAJ1KAJ1 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭
    I've been trying to do this. I have slowly been selling off my Lincolns, and have gotten it down to a box of 60.
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>OK "method" for an investor, for a collector; not so much. >>



    I've never understood why some people think that having fewer, better coins means you are an investor. Can you explain this to me?
  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Like the concept for my core collection. Makes one a more careful and thoughtful collector when you have to displace one coin to make room for the new one.

    On the other hand, I have 9-10 boxes of 20 for my sample and interesting slab collection. image
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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think Broadstruck and the way he collects could do just a box of twenty, I know no way I can.

    Maybe a box of twenty on top of a few core collections.

  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Slabbed coins (that are important to me)? I'm at about 33. That number ain't goin down anytime soon.

    Raw coins that I care about? Probably another 50. That number could decrease if I ever decide to slab up my 7070.

    I will always have a type set. Currently, I prefer it raw.

    I will always be a small cent enthusiast. Every time I see another great example, be it a duplicate or whatever, well let's just say there's always room for one more!
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>OK "method" for an investor, for a collector; not so much. >>



    I've never understood why some people think that having fewer, better coins means you are an investor. Can you explain this to me? >>


    Me neither, any more than saying it's an okay strategy for a collector, but not an investor.
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>OK "method" for an investor, for a collector; not so much. >>



    I've never understood why some people think that having fewer, better coins means you are an investor. Can you explain this to me? >>


    Me neither, any more than saying it's an okay strategy for a collector, but not an investor. >>



    You would think an investor would not put all the eggs in such a small basket. A gambler maybe....
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  • vibr0nicvibr0nic Posts: 614 ✭✭✭
    I'm starting a counter phrase to the box of 20 - Don't "box" yourself in.
    I like large size currency and silver dollars.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One can put an awful lot of hundred dollar bills into a PCGS blue or green box.image
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  • lavalava Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭
    For many of the reasons stated, and for the additional reason that there is something unmanly about it, I have never cared for the box of 20 concept.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>For many of the reasons stated, and for the additional reason that there is something unmanly about it, I have never cared for the box of 20 concept. >>



    Unmanly... Well that's the best reason to avoid I've seen so far! image
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    have no idea how a collector can hold to a box of 20.

    Try 1793 Cents by die variety.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My primary set now has 206 coins and even considering the about ten stoppers that I might never get, I'm still looking at 20 boxes of 20.

    BTW 31 to go and one upgrade on the way, and one hard date 1849 won this weekend.
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmmm ok lets think this over. All the coin collectors in the world adopt the box of twenty concept; now everyone is fighting for 1% of the avalible coin population. What happens to the remaining 99%? Melted? Stuffed and forever stuck in dealers cases only moving from dealer to dealer? Silly concept that was brought forward by those who feel thay are elite and above the collecting masses. Collections should not have to have such hard boundries, its my collection and how many I have and the overall condition is only important to me not anyone else. I feel sorry for anyone that lets themself be influnced on what and how to collect because of what someone puts up on a chat board.

    Edited to add that for those who will come on and say that I just dont get "it" no I get it I just dont subscribe to it.
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  • CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    By definition, a collector is one who collects. I, for one, could never limit myself to just 20 coins, unless I chose to specialize in a series that consisted of 20 coins.

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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    I have too many coins I love to narrow it down to a box of 20. So no interest in even trying.
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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not too many series out there where there are 20 or less coins in it, so if you are interested in collecting at least one series, and maybe a little of this and that on the side, then a Box of 20 makes absolutely NO sense.
  • ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭
    I really do not see how any collector, regardless of what they are collecting (coins, stamps, currency, cards etc) can really limit to just 20 items. There is a little bit of a hoarder in ever collector.

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