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  • taxmadtaxmad Posts: 978 ✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Want people to work, very simple pay them more.

    Because a private business has deeper pockets than their current competitor - the US Government...

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2021 6:04AM

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Want people to work, very simple pay them more.

    or give them less incentive to not work.

    Note the spike created by "pandemic" benefits (green and blue in the chart).

    US jobless benefits:

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Want people to work, very simple pay them more.

    You mean a true living wage for all? Now wouldn't that be something?

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  • taxmadtaxmad Posts: 978 ✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Want people to work, very simple pay them more.

    You mean a true living wage for all? Now wouldn't that be something?

    A living wage based on what? If you a single you get paid X but once you get married you get a raise? Have a kid - get a raise? Kid dies - lose the raise? Get a divorce and get a pay cut? If I am your employer and my cost is contingent on your life choices, I think I should get a say in all those choices, don't you?

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 28, 2021 12:25PM

    Every adult in this great nation should have the opportunity to earn at minimum $15/hr. In some regions that's still probably not enough but certainly a good place to start. Semper Fi!

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    Every adult in this great nation should have the opportunity to earn at minimum $15/hr.

    The opportunity is there, but it starts before one becomes an adult: Finish school. Make wise life choices. Learn to depend on yourself and not others.

    Funny how those who take advantage of their many opportunities are doing much better than $15 an hour. When the local burger joint pays everyone a min. wage of $15 who do you think pays for the raise? "Living wage" is just another name for more inflation.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @blitzdude said:
    Every adult in this great nation should have the opportunity to earn at minimum $15/hr.

    The opportunity is there, but it starts before one becomes an adult: Finish school. Make wise life choices. Learn to depend on yourself and not others.

    Funny how those who take advantage of their many opportunities are doing much better than $15 an hour. When the local burger joint pays everyone a min. wage of $15 who do you think pays for the raise? "Living wage" is just another name for more inflation.

    Some were never given the "opportunity" to pursue those life choices that you and I take for granted. They didn't even have a chance from the second they exited the womb.

    Technology has made it so burger world can have 6 unfortunate burger flippers doing what used to require 30. Believe me, labor is the lowest expense on the list.
    Wake up man!

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 28, 2021 2:22PM

    I'm already paying those who turned a blind eye to opportunity. I disagree that I should also pay more for a burger to compensate them further for their poor decisions. I will admit it is not entirely their fault, they have been blinded to opportunity by those who want their continued vote.

    I chose to finish school and work hard. The result was more than min. wage.

    I chose not to go to college. The result was less than $150K a year. Using your logic I should be entitled to some of my neighbor the college grad's $200K salary. He and I would strongly disagree with you.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Even a 'living wage' does not have much chance against 'free money' being given out to stay home and play video games.

    Though I mentioned my observations regarding fast food... this same situation is occurring retail, construction, and many other industries. For example... the explosion in lumber prices may very well have to do with too few workers, both in obtaining the lumber, and also the transport of it.

    My point was to get across is we are going to see scarcity and price ramp ups all over the place due to this situation. Does not bode well.

    ----- kj
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And it doesn't matter to me what the government says our 'inflation rate' is. Not when I can see for myself how much more everything is costing out there. (for me anyways).

    lumber
    groceries
    housing
    guns and ammunition
    property taxes
    used cars
    new cars and trucks (lack of chips)
    shipping costs
    Restaurants and fast food

    Just a few areas that are under stress. But I don't know... perhaps it's just me who is paying for for about everything. Any of you getting by cheaper?

    ----- kj
  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tincup said:
    And it doesn't matter to me what the government says our 'inflation rate' is. Not when I can see for myself how much more everything is costing out there. (for me anyways).

    lumber
    groceries
    housing
    guns and ammunition
    property taxes
    used cars
    new cars and trucks (lack of chips)
    shipping costs
    Restaurants and fast food

    Just a few areas that are under stress. But I don't know... perhaps it's just me who is paying for for about everything. Any of you getting by cheaper?

    Gotta get guns/ammo/fast food nation on the list. Forget the pandemic, necessities, welcome to 'Merica.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    but.... back to inflation

    no one mentioned healthcare

    I'd love to see some of these categories broken out to yearly percent increase charts or some such.

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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep... definitely put health care and insurance on the list.

    ----- kj
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • HigashiyamaHigashiyama Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s also quite amazing to see gumball machines refitted to take quarters.

    Higashiyama
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Medical care
    Insurance
    Real Estate
    Energy (electric, gas)
    Education (but I listened to a speech last night that all will be good in that regard)
    Silver (in regards to real price/premiums, and not per the 'official' paper price)

    Kind of like the proverbial frog in the pot of water. We are in the water and it is getting hotter all around us; and most people are oblivious to it. Especially since the "ones in charge" are telling us all is good... no inflation with the 'official' stats.

    But the evidence is all around us in everyday life. The more I look, the more I see. Perhaps if more people would go back to work... perhaps the supply and demand equation could work it's way out and things will improve or at least stabilize. But the normal supply and demand and been skewered by the free money and lack of workers... no need to work. Life is good.

    Don't listen to the magician's words... watch what his hands are doing while he is trying to distract you.

    Does not bode well for the system that most are comfortable with.

    ----- kj
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah, I saw that article also. But... once one reads the comments below it, looks can be deceiving. Probable multiple factors are in play.

    Manipulation? Probably. Increased demand? Probably. Lack of workers? Probably. Lack of transport to move the product? Probably. Just like silver... there is always plenty available... it is just at what price and the factors behind the price.

    Bottom line... those wanting/needing lumber right now are faced with significantly higher prices. For whatever reasons. IMO certainly inflationary...

    ----- kj
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2, 2021 7:40AM

    We are going to see more and more "supply chain" issues (real or not) get blamed for higher prices on many end use products. Keep in mind that "supply chain" can involve anything from labor, to transport, to raw material availability. Look for retailers to seize the opportunity to indiscriminately raise prices.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Labor shortage is starting to creep into the cost of doing business in my industry. One shop in town is paying people in cash so they can continue to collect PUA. Another shop has been walking into other shops and poaching employees with offers of substantial pay increases. We lost one employee who was offered a $5 per hour increase in pay. We were already paying him $5 per more than people will similar skill and certification were coming to us asking for a year ago. Gonna be a rough year.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's hard to compete with a government that increases "employment opportunities" with more stay at home "jobs."

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    while it is one picture missing a lot of story, crude hasn't been in short supply.

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2, 2021 9:59AM

    @MsMorrisine said:
    while it is one picture missing a lot of story, crude hasn't been in short supply.

    The addition of fear contributes to a rise in price inflation. Lots of supply chain disruptions being pushed by the MSM, likely an effort to conceal it's real causes.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    while it is one picture missing a lot of story, crude hasn't been in short supply.

    Give it time! All it will take is for something like some certain type of legislation.... to get rolling along; we may well see the higher prices and less availability. I suspect it is coming, and if so, then expect prices of everything to rise even more

    ----- kj
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    on the other hand, during the fall no one was questioning that """people""" were keeping contractors very busy. it's spring and warmer now.

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could this happen in the US?

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    I give away money. I collect money.
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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:
    Could this happen in the US?

    No.

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    easily

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:
    Could this happen in the US?

    What is your opinion?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    we don't use gold marks.

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @bidask said:
    Could this happen in the US?

    What is your opinion?

    I don’t think so ....but an interesting graph in that it took several years for inflation to
    “Gestate” for lack of better word .... our country much much more powerful than Germany after world war 1

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    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:

    @cohodk said:

    @bidask said:
    Could this happen in the US?

    What is your opinion?

    I don’t think so ....but an interesting graph in that it took several years for inflation to
    “Gestate” for lack of better word .... our country much much more powerful than Germany after world war 1

    I agree. Germany was a mess. Their industrial complex was obliterated. The moral of its citizens was destroyed. Their political system was in shambles.

    99.99% of the devaluation occurred in the final month.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2, 2021 1:39PM

    @cohodk said:

    @bidask said:

    @cohodk said:

    @bidask said:
    Could this happen in the US?

    What is your opinion?

    I don’t think so ....but an interesting graph in that it took several years for inflation to
    “Gestate” for lack of better word .... our country much much more powerful than Germany after world war 1

    I agree. Germany was a mess. Their industrial complex was obliterated. The moral of its citizens was destroyed. Their political system was in shambles.

    99.99% of the devaluation occurred in the final month.

    The Weimar hyperinflation crisis referenced in the chart was actually the result of the printing of too much money. In late 1922 Germany defaulted on its reparations (from WWI) payment. France and Belgium sent in troops to confiscate industrial goods. Germany responded by printing money to pay its industrial workers not to produce (sound familiar?). The gold chart pictured is a result of the hyperinflation created by the excessive money printing. This was all a direct result of unrealistic reparations placed on Germany with the Treaty of Versailles.

    Excessive money printing? Paying workers not to produce? Check.

    Hyperinflation? Countdown has begun.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Paying stimmy checks (did you spend yours?) is small in comparison to future spending. There will be a day, soon, that stimmy checks stop. Then we can have infrastructure spending that won’t lead to commodity inflation(ok, more of)

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    stimmy checks are a drop in the money printing bucket.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Please let us all know when France and Belgium invade.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:
    Please let us all know when France and Belgium invade.

    don't need outside help, your FED is army enough.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    and we already have a dead Prince…

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  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They moved the decimal point on the Peso two places.

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I moved my decimal point a place or two. Nice week. Crazy world. Looks like my gutter is down. HODL!

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  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Elon, SNL, Doges Gone Wild.

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Couple of days ago, this article appeared. The big lumber companies wouldn't manipulate the market, would they? My faith in humanity destroyed again.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/what-lumber-shortage-train-loads-lumber-just-stacked

    Have a nice day
  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 3, 2021 4:17AM

    Friend of mine had to finish their deck expansion for a home refi estimate something or another the past couple weeks. The wood was almost 3x what it would have been last year.

    Another one of my neighbors actually runs shift at a lumber yard down the road off the rail line, said it's crazy what the cost is on everything.

    The fresh wood here, I think it was ~$800 they said.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yellon has backtracked and conceded that interest rates may have to rise to keep the economy from "overheating."

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • HigashiyamaHigashiyama Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 4, 2021 6:20PM

    That was encouraging. She is a person of very high integrity in a very difficult role.

    Higashiyama
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Like the others she is a puppet of Wall Street.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    She should remember she’s not in the Fed

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