For all you USPS haters, look at what Fed Ex did to my irreplaceable auto'd rookie card
gregm13
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I sent my Steve Owen signed rc to JSA to be encapsulated mid last month. Look at how the card arrived after Fed Ex delivered it to JSA's office:
I am just f'ing sick. The box (made of heavy corrugated cardboard) was absolutely destroyed and the card was mangled. Thankfully I insured the card for $1,000, but I'm still losing $ even w/ the insurance. Needless to say, I will never use Fed Ex again.
Rgs,
Greg M.
I am just f'ing sick. The box (made of heavy corrugated cardboard) was absolutely destroyed and the card was mangled. Thankfully I insured the card for $1,000, but I'm still losing $ even w/ the insurance. Needless to say, I will never use Fed Ex again.
Rgs,
Greg M.
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<< <i>I would need a case of red bull & a punching bag! >>
It reminds me of the opening scene from Ace Ventura....seriously, how the f*** could they have destroyed the box that badly?
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Greg M.
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Max insurance on collectibles is $500
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<< <i>You also wont get $1000
Max insurance on collectibles is $500 >>
I mailed it through Goin Postal and it was explained me that FedEx covers the first $100 plus shipping and the secondary insurer will cover the remaining $900.
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He needs to have jumper cables hooked up to his privates for a couple minutes
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Owen was born in Cleo Springs, Oklahoma and raised in an area known as the Cherokee Strip in the Oklahoma Territory, where his original goal was to become a jockey, a dream denied by his 5–11, 230 lb frame that earned him the nickname "Stout Steve." While working on a cattle ranch, he attended Phillips University in Enid, Oklahoma where he was an all-around athlete in 1917-18. He supplemented his income at that time as a professional wrestler under the pseudonym "Jack O'Brien," a ruse to preserve his amateur status.
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Edit to add: I'm very sorry to see this--almost looks like it was done on purpose.
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Owen was born in Cleo Springs, Oklahoma and raised in an area known as the Cherokee Strip in the Oklahoma Territory, where his original goal was to become a jockey, a dream denied by his 5–11, 230 lb frame that earned him the nickname "Stout Steve." While working on a cattle ranch, he attended Phillips University in Enid, Oklahoma where he was an all-around athlete in 1917-18. He supplemented his income at that time as a professional wrestler under the pseudonym "Jack O'Brien," a ruse to preserve his amateur status. >>
I had no idea! Leave it to you to sniff out his professional wrestling career
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<< <i>Greg that sucks. It looks like someone drove over it or it got crushed by a forklift wheel. That was a great looking card before too. Why did you send it to JSA if it already had JSA... Why not right to Beckett? At least you did have it insured, sorry that happened to you. >>
I wanted to get it slabbed to make the PSA cross-over "easier".
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<< <i>You also wont get $1000
Max insurance on collectibles is $500 >>
I mailed it through Goin Postal and it was explained me that FedEx covers the first $100 plus shipping and the secondary insurer will cover the remaining $900.
Rgs,
Greg M. >>
Let me know how this works out for you. I cant see them covering $900 when Fedex only covers $500
Why they would offer extra insurance makes no sense
<< <i>Why the flimsy holder for a $1,000 to $1,500 card? >>
I figured the card was safe in a thick, heavy cardboard box.
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<< <i>Why the flimsy holder. Why send it in a box. Boxes are throw into bins where big boxes are thown on to them. Padded envelope with bubble wrap around in a top loader or screw down. Boxes get mangled on conveyors. >>
+1
Padded envelope into a Fedex envelope or pak gets it there perfectly.
Packages get damaged in those big containers if you use Fdx,usps, ups etc.
Envelopes and paks get sorted into bags and are handled in a much safer way
I must admit, when I do ship cards, I use a large box. My thinking is its harder for someone to sneak the package out of the Post Office.
They call me "Pack the Ripper"
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<< <i>For USPS, a box is usually better than a padded or bubble envelope. I've seen far more cards and packs damaged in padded envelopees and bubble mailers than I have in boxes. That's why most large dealers like BBCE use boxes instead of envelopes. I can't tell you how many times I have received a vintage pack in a padded envelope and opened it to find it damaged or ruined. >>
The way I'm explaining it, the package is double packaged. Stick item into a bubble mailer, then stick bubble mailer into a oversized (letter size) envelope.
Again, these get bagged up regardless of who you use and are not mixed in with the boxes
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<< <i>For USPS, a box is usually better than a padded or bubble envelope. I've seen far more cards and packs damaged in padded envelopees and bubble mailers than I have in boxes. That's why most large dealers like BBCE use boxes instead of envelopes. I can't tell you how many times I have received a vintage pack in a padded envelope and opened it to find it damaged or ruined. >>
The way I'm explaining it, the package is double packaged. Stick item into a bubble mailer, then stick bubble mailer into a oversized (letter size) envelope.
Again, these get bagged up regardless of who you use and are not mixed in with the boxes >>
I would definitely wrap the item first too in bubblewrap and then with peanuts, but a sturdy box offers much greater protection from damage during transit than any padded envelope. I have never had any significant damage to an item received in a box, but I have had many issues with damaged items shipped in padded envelopes.
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All envelopes get put into big bags and are sorted away from boxes. The problem and reason why packages get damaged is when they get loaded into these big containers,
is when the container is not filled 100%, packages move and fall all over each other. 99.9% of the time, this is why people get damaged items. You dont have to worry about any of that when you are shipping full size document letter type envelopes.
<< <i>How can that happen? At some point an actual Fed Ex employee (or monkey) has to see this package has been damaged and destroyed. Just send it along, business as usual. Unbelievable >>
What will happen is the station manager will tell the courier to deliver the package and tell the customer to file a claim. What else can they do?
<< <i>Grote,
All envelopes get put into big bags and are sorted away from boxes. The problem and reason why packages get damaged is when they get loaded into these big containers,
is when the container is not filled 100%, packages move and fall all over each other. 99.9% of the time, this is why people get damaged items. You dont have to worry about any of that when you are shipping full size document letter type envelopes. >>
I hear what you're saying, but I've been sending cards in boxes for 10+ years and have never had one damaged before (I have mailed hundreds of boxes). Even if I put a cardboard backing behind the card, it should would have been destroyed w/ the damage that was done to this box.
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<< <i>Grote,
All envelopes get put into big bags and are sorted away from boxes. The problem and reason why packages get damaged is when they get loaded into these big containers,
is when the container is not filled 100%, packages move and fall all over each other. 99.9% of the time, this is why people get damaged items. You dont have to worry about any of that when you are shipping full size document letter type envelopes. >>
I hear what you're saying, but I've been sending cards in boxes for 10+ years and have never had one damaged before (I have mailed hundreds of boxes). Even if I put a cardboard backing behind the card, it should would have been destroyed w/ the damage that was done to this box.
Rgs,
Greg M. >>
I agree as it looks like a heavier box landed on yours so the extra cardboard would not have mattered. I also have been shipping items for many years. I see what happens inside these places and all i'm saying, if you can send in Document size envelopes with a bubble mailer inside it, thats the way to go. Avoid boxes if you can
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<< <i>Grote,
All envelopes get put into big bags and are sorted away from boxes. The problem and reason why packages get damaged is when they get loaded into these big containers,
is when the container is not filled 100%, packages move and fall all over each other. 99.9% of the time, this is why people get damaged items. You dont have to worry about any of that when you are shipping full size document letter type envelopes. >>
I hear what you're saying, but I've been sending cards in boxes for 10+ years and have never had one damaged before (I have mailed hundreds of boxes). Even if I put a cardboard backing behind the card, it should would have been destroyed w/ the damage that was done to this box.
Rgs,
Greg M. >>
I agree as it looks like a heavier box landed on yours so the extra cardboard would not have mattered. I also have been shipping items for many years. I see what happens inside these places and all i'm saying, if you can send in Document size envelopes with a bubble mailer inside it, thats the way to go. Avoid boxes if you can >>
Thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind for the future.
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Greg M.
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That really sucks and I feel your pain. There is no excuse why a package should ever get damaged like that. That is just complete negligence on their part.
<< <i>Grote,
All envelopes get put into big bags and are sorted away from boxes. The problem and reason why packages get damaged is when they get loaded into these big containers,
is when the container is not filled 100%, packages move and fall all over each other. 99.9% of the time, this is why people get damaged items. You dont have to worry about any of that when you are shipping full size document letter type envelopes. >>
All I know is that anytime I ever had a card or pack damaged during transit it was in a padded envelope or bubble mailer. I have never had any issues with
items shipped in boxes and there is a reason that dealers like BBCE ship items in boxes and not in envelopes.
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<< <i>What will be interesting here is the insurance claim. They will #1 state that you did not package it correctly and therefore will only pay the $100. You will need to prove that you put enough support in the box to support the amount of weight the box is rated for. Please keep us updated but I am not expecting any update until March. Yes, it will take that long. >>
Agreed. Not sure he will win this one.
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<< <i>That damage is incredible!! Wow... did you have the card sandwiched between two pieces of cardboard? If not, I wonder if that would have made the difference. >>
it appears reinforced steel manhole covers may not have made the difference.
I prefer to go USPS Registered for any real valuable items sent and have never had an issue and have sent over 100 packages, its the only service that gives me piece of mind.
<< <i>They will #1 state that you did not package it correctly and therefore will only pay the $100. >>
He won't get anything if they determine it was inadequate packaging.
And even if they say the packaging was ok, he will need a receipt showing what he paid for the card.
And even if he has a receipt, he's still going to have difficulty getting FedEx to pay out anything on an insurance claim for a collectible item.
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<< <i>That damage is incredible!! Wow... did you have the card sandwiched between two pieces of cardboard? If not, I wonder if that would have made the difference. >>
it appears reinforced steel manhole covers may not have made the difference. >>
Packages travel conveyer belts (similiar to the ones your luggage travel at airports) at FedEx sorting facilities. That's why I asked what Greg used for packing material in the box and around the card. The card appears to have been free floating or packed on top or near the top of the box. If the card was backed or centered in the box, it doesn't appear the card would have been damaged. The box also appears to be recycled and cut-to-shape?
<< <i>Grote beat me to it...................It looks like it was done on purpose. That's uncalled for in that condition. Very sorry this happened to you. Not your fault at all. >>
I agree!
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<< <i>They will #1 state that you did not package it correctly and therefore will only pay the $100. >>
He won't get anything if they determine it was inadequate packaging.
And even if they say the packaging was ok, he will need a receipt showing what he paid for the card.
And even if he has a receipt, he's still going to have difficulty getting FedEx to pay out anything on an insurance claim for a collectible item. >>
$500 max on collectibles. Most people don't know this