UPDATE-IMAGES ADDED-Ugly...Buyers are reporting that many 2013 Silver Britannias are scuffed badly
carew4me
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I have seen discussions on 2 "other" boards.
Composition change from .958 to .999 has resulted in scuffed coins (especially Queen side) from sealed Mint sheets.
Some even have coin on coin reed impressions indicating poor QC this year.
I have ordered 5 so I will report what I see.
If you have any let us know.
Composition change from .958 to .999 has resulted in scuffed coins (especially Queen side) from sealed Mint sheets.
Some even have coin on coin reed impressions indicating poor QC this year.
I have ordered 5 so I will report what I see.
If you have any let us know.
Loves me some shiny!
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Scuffs and reed indentations abound similar to other buyers, almost all on Queen face.
There are also noticeable rim scratches.
on the left - still sealed- reed marks are not on plastic.
Loves me some shiny!
I was thinking of ordering up a few more, and am glad I didn't.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>aren't these bullion coins and not marketed as collector coins? >>
Ok, why are Pandas, Kooks and the like graded at all then? Why were there 28 pages of comments about
"scratches in the mirror fields" when the bullion ATBs were issued?
The "it's just bullion" retort has been roundly dismissed by the PM community.
Loves me some shiny!
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<< <i>aren't these bullion coins and not marketed as collector coins? >>
Ok, why are Pandas, Kooks and the like graded at all then? Why were there 28 pages of comments about
"scratches in the mirror fields" when the bullion ATBs were issued?
The "it's just bullion" retort has been roundly dismissed by the PM community. >>
No, the retort is dismissed by the PM collector community
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And by the way the size also changes to 38.6 mm from 40mm.
None of the "coin blogs" mentioned the size change.
Do you think if the SAE size changed it would be mentioned?
These early strikes are a disaster...lets hope someone with some pull
shames the Royal Mint.
Loves me some shiny!
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<< <i>aren't these bullion coins and not marketed as collector coins? >>
Ok, why are Pandas, Kooks and the like graded at all then? Why were there 28 pages of comments about
"scratches in the mirror fields" when the bullion ATBs were issued?
The "it's just bullion" retort has been roundly dismissed by the PM community. >>
Didn't say "just bullion" but I will now that you brought it up. My point was that they are marketed/sold as just bullion; one should not expect them to be more. An example of the difference is the gold eagle bullion coin with no mintmark and the business strike gold eagle bullion collector coin with a mintmark - two different quality control standards/production methods by the producer and rightfully expected by the consumer who pays more for the collector version.
I have hundreds of silver maple bullion coins right out of the box with spotting. While I don't like it, it does not affect their value as bullion and I have no legitimate complaint with the producer. In fact, this is what brings a good premium to MS70 "just bullion" coins, the fact that they aren't minted to higher standards.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
I think this year the issue is fraught with quality issues that
separate it by far from other years.
Also, given the design rotation , there are many that buy this issue each year.
Also the premium of past years settles the issue of whether these are just bullion.
Finally, is it not fair to compare them to product from other countries who have a consistent clean strike?
Most odd of all is the fact that no lead story or blogs mentions that the size of the issues changed!
Imagine if SAE size changed, I guess we could just tell those folks "it is just bullion, your Dansco be damned!"
Loves me some shiny!
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
One of my fellow authenticators at ANACS once got a VIP tour of the San Francisco Mint in the late 70's. He was being shown the proof set packaging line, and the people assembling the sets were wearing smocks, caps and gloves to protect the coins. Then all of the sudden they came across a worker who was wearing all of the protective gear, and in between sets was sticking her gloved hand into a bag of potato chips, shoving them in her mouth, and then using the same gloved hand to assemble the next set. The Supervisor giving the tour excreted a large rectangular solid!