<< <i>Cardinal Collection and Rarities Night are posted online >>
With their new structure and lack of give a crap, I wonder how many Cardinal level collections are out there to keep them in business. And of them, how many will actually get consigned to SB.
<< <i>Cardinal Collection and Rarities Night are posted online >>
With their new structure and lack of give a crap, I wonder how many Cardinal level collections are out there to keep them in business. And of them, how many will actually get consigned to SB. >>
I have never purchased anything from SB. Only 3-4 items from HA. Maybe 3 items from Teletrade... My favorite purchases are from Local Coin Shops, or Coin Shows. I believe I enjoy people more than the coins. My family and I will most likely eat at a small mom & pop rather than a chain... Why is that? We enjoy people, relationships. With the larger auction houses you are a number... I hate calling a number only having to pass through 3-5 menus before I speak with a human being. Auction houses are important for education for the budding numismatists, but they aren't necessary.
WTB... errors, New Orleans gold, and circulated 20th key date coins!
Checked it out and found only ONE coin worth mentioning. The 1907 $10 MS66+ CAC Indian. Incredible coin! Other than this its a skeleton of an event. Quality material is getting very hard to come by. The upcoming Heritage auction is uncharacteristically weak as well. I think 17.5% broke the camels back, or at least is heavily weighing it down.
Lot 13008 in the Cardinal collection sale, an 1796 Draped bust large cent in PCGS MS65RB, ex: Husak, is nonsensically described (in part) as follows:
<< <i>Lot #13008. 1796 Draped Bust Cent. S-93. Rarity-3-. Noyes Die State C, Breen Die State X. Reverse of 1797 (a.k.a. Reverse of 1796). MS-65 RB (PCGS). CAC.
Remarkable PCGS/CAC MS-65 S-93 Cent Among the Finest Graded of All Draped Bust Cents 1796-1807 Description: Die Variety: This is a readily identifiable obverse die for the 1796 Draped Bust cent due to the presence of a hyphen-like break between the digits 7 and 9 in the date and an area of roughness in the die in the field below the ribbon ends. A workhorse die, this obverse was also used to strike examples of the Sheldon-94, S-95, S-96, NC.2 and NC.3 varieties. In the S-93 marriage, this obverse is paired with a reverse the wreath on which terminates in single leaves that appear to form a closed circle. The division of leaves in the wreath is 20-5 left and 18-4 right. This reverse only appears in the S-93 marriage. S-93 is one of the Reverse of 1797 Guide Book varieties of the 1796 Draped Bust cent, which variety is referred to as "Reverse of 1796" on the PCGS insert. >>
S-93 is a "Reverse of 1795 (or 1796)" variety. 1796 draped bust cents with reverse of 1797 include: S-94, 100, 104, 105, 113, 114, 115, 117, 118, 119 and NC1, 3 and 6.
I got a kick out of reading this description on the MS69 BN 1793 wreath cent:
This is another world-class, world-famous Gem from the Cardinal Collection. In terms of market emphasis it stands alone as noted above -- no other large copper cent of any date or variety from 1793 to 1857 has earned such a high grade level from a leading recognized certification service! And, to make matters even better, it is in an "old green holder," suggesting for any other coin that perhaps if reholdered a higher grade could be obtained. Wait a minute! Perhaps it would be applicable to this coin also -- absolute perfection.
I have never purchased anything from SB. Only 3-4 items from HA. Maybe 3 items from Teletrade... My favorite purchases are from Local Coin Shops, or Coin Shows. I believe I enjoy people more than the coins. My family and I will most likely eat at a small mom & pop rather than a chain... Why is that? We enjoy people, relationships. With the larger auction houses you are a number... I hate calling a number only having to pass through 3-5 menus before I speak with a human being. Auction houses are important for education for the budding numismatists, but they aren't necessary.
Daniel - I understand where you're coming from but, in my case, most of what I collect only appears in the major auctions or on the floor at the national shows. I've only added a few items from local shops or shows in the past couple of decades and even those pieces were nothing special. Sorry, but the "big sales and shows" are the only way to go for me.
Small but powerful offering of US coins. Considering this auction is really focused on Ancient and Foreign coins, I was pleased to find a couple of items I want to bid on.
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
<< <i>Soooo - if I'm reading the terms and conditions correctly, it's 17.5% on EVERY lot now... ???
They announced this change months ago. >>
I remember it for low level lots - but not for high dollar ones >>
The "high dollar" break never did me much good.
But be happy you don't collect political items. I paid 19.5% on the one piece I bought from them recently.
These buyers' fee rates are getting out of hand, and I think, are becoming counterproductive for the auction houses and the consignors. Is there anyone out there who is not breaking back their maximum bids more because of them? The lower the bids, the less the consignors get unless they have negotiated for a negative consignors' fee.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
<< <i>I have never purchased anything from SB. Only 3-4 items from HA. Maybe 3 items from Teletrade... My favorite purchases are from Local Coin Shops, or Coin Shows. I believe I enjoy people more than the coins. My family and I will most likely eat at a small mom & pop rather than a chain... Why is that? We enjoy people, relationships. With the larger auction houses you are a number... I hate calling a number only having to pass through 3-5 menus before I speak with a human being. Auction houses are important for education for the budding numismatists, but they aren't necessary.
Daniel - I understand where you're coming from but, in my case, most of what I collect only appears in the major auctions or on the floor at the national shows. I've only added a few items from local shops or shows in the past couple of decades and even those pieces were nothing special. Sorry, but the "big sales and shows" are the only way to go for me. >>
Same for me. I've had to go to regional and national shows for decades to find the coins I want. Recently I've spent more time at the big auctions because the dealers who were selling me coins were getting from those sales. It's called cutting out the middle man.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
Reference slab 25511488 for another picture - pic is also on coinfacts.
I'm sadly sidelined...otherwise I would be in there swinging.
Will it hit $20K? My prognostication is 'yes'. >>
I don't collect proof Walkers but I did notice that one! On another Walker note, I see some High Desert coins are being offered. Moving out of Walkers already or disposing of some duplicates?
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
Reference slab 25511488 for another picture - pic is also on coinfacts.
I'm sadly sidelined...otherwise I would be in there swinging.
Will it hit $20K? My prognostication is 'yes'. >>
Is every single new PCGS slab scuffed beyond belief? I'm beginning to think so. They are scratch magnets
MJ
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>There are a lot more than just walkers from High Desert >>
Now that you mention it, I see that there are quite a few High Desert coins -- of course I can't figure out how to search for just those coins in the auction (if it can be done). For what it's worth, the High Desert type set is still listed on the PCGS registry, although the Walker set did a disappearing act a while back.
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
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<< <i>Cardinal Collection and Rarities Night are posted online >>
With their new structure and lack of give a crap, I wonder how many Cardinal level collections are out there to keep them in business. And of them, how many will actually get consigned to SB.
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<< <i>Cardinal Collection and Rarities Night are posted online >>
With their new structure and lack of give a crap, I wonder how many Cardinal level collections are out there to keep them in business. And of them, how many will actually get consigned to SB. >>
I have never purchased anything from SB. Only 3-4 items from HA. Maybe 3 items from Teletrade... My favorite purchases are from Local Coin Shops, or Coin Shows. I believe I enjoy people more than the coins. My family and I will most likely eat at a small mom & pop rather than a chain... Why is that? We enjoy people, relationships. With the larger auction houses you are a number... I hate calling a number only having to pass through 3-5 menus before I speak with a human being. Auction houses are important for education for the budding numismatists, but they aren't necessary.
They announced this change months ago.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
<< <i>Soooo - if I'm reading the terms and conditions correctly, it's 17.5% on EVERY lot now... ??? >>
Step 1. Gain trust.
Step 2. ?
Step 3. Profit.
<< <i>Soooo - if I'm reading the terms and conditions correctly, it's 17.5% on EVERY lot now... ???
They announced this change months ago. >>
I remember it for low level lots - but not for high dollar ones
Perhaps a 17.5% rate for the smallest 98% of the lots and 20.0% for the LARGEST 2% of the lots?
After all, if you really want it, go for it!!!!!
In France, they'd have wanted to charge the top 5% expensive lots a 75% vig.
EVP
How does one get a hater to stop hating?
I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com
<< <i>Lot #13008. 1796 Draped Bust Cent. S-93. Rarity-3-. Noyes Die State C, Breen Die State X. Reverse of 1797 (a.k.a. Reverse of 1796). MS-65 RB (PCGS). CAC.
Remarkable PCGS/CAC MS-65 S-93 Cent Among the Finest Graded of All Draped Bust Cents 1796-1807 Description: Die Variety: This is a readily identifiable obverse die for the 1796 Draped Bust cent due to the presence of a hyphen-like break between the digits 7 and 9 in the date and an area of roughness in the die in the field below the ribbon ends. A workhorse die, this obverse was also used to strike examples of the Sheldon-94, S-95, S-96, NC.2 and NC.3 varieties. In the S-93 marriage, this obverse is paired with a reverse the wreath on which terminates in single leaves that appear to form a closed circle. The division of leaves in the wreath is 20-5 left and 18-4 right. This reverse only appears in the S-93 marriage. S-93 is one of the Reverse of 1797 Guide Book varieties of the 1796 Draped Bust cent, which variety is referred to as "Reverse of 1796" on the PCGS insert. >>
S-93 is a "Reverse of 1795 (or 1796)" variety. 1796 draped bust cents with reverse of 1797 include: S-94, 100, 104, 105, 113, 114, 115, 117, 118, 119 and NC1, 3 and 6.
This is another world-class, world-famous Gem from the Cardinal Collection. In terms of market emphasis it stands alone as noted above -- no other large copper cent of any date or variety from 1793 to 1857 has earned such a high grade level from a leading recognized certification service! And, to make matters even better, it is in an "old green holder," suggesting for any other coin that perhaps if reholdered a higher grade could be obtained. Wait a minute! Perhaps it would be applicable to this coin also -- absolute perfection.
Daniel - I understand where you're coming from but, in my case, most of what I collect only appears in the major auctions or on the floor at the national shows. I've only added a few items from local shops or shows in the past couple of decades and even those pieces were nothing special. Sorry, but the "big sales and shows" are the only way to go for me.
Member ANA, SPMC, SCNA, FUN, CONECA
Small but powerful offering of US coins.
Considering this auction is really focused
on Ancient and Foreign coins, I was pleased
to find a couple of items I want to bid on.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
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<< <i>Soooo - if I'm reading the terms and conditions correctly, it's 17.5% on EVERY lot now... ???
They announced this change months ago. >>
I remember it for low level lots - but not for high dollar ones >>
The "high dollar" break never did me much good.
But be happy you don't collect political items. I paid 19.5% on the one piece I bought from them recently.
These buyers' fee rates are getting out of hand, and I think, are becoming counterproductive for the auction houses and the consignors. Is there anyone out there who is not breaking back their maximum bids more because of them? The lower the bids, the less the consignors get unless they have negotiated for a negative consignors' fee.
<< <i>I have never purchased anything from SB. Only 3-4 items from HA. Maybe 3 items from Teletrade... My favorite purchases are from Local Coin Shops, or Coin Shows. I believe I enjoy people more than the coins. My family and I will most likely eat at a small mom & pop rather than a chain... Why is that? We enjoy people, relationships. With the larger auction houses you are a number... I hate calling a number only having to pass through 3-5 menus before I speak with a human being. Auction houses are important for education for the budding numismatists, but they aren't necessary.
Daniel - I understand where you're coming from but, in my case, most of what I collect only appears in the major auctions or on the floor at the national shows. I've only added a few items from local shops or shows in the past couple of decades and even those pieces were nothing special. Sorry, but the "big sales and shows" are the only way to go for me. >>
Same for me. I've had to go to regional and national shows for decades to find the coins I want. Recently I've spent more time at the big auctions because the dealers who were selling me coins were getting from those sales. It's called cutting out the middle man.
Wow!
Reference slab 25511488 for another picture - pic is also on coinfacts.
I'm sadly sidelined...otherwise I would be in there swinging.
Will it hit $20K? My prognostication is 'yes'.
<< <i>Oh, my, that 1937 PF68 half dollar is a beauty.
Wow!
Reference slab 25511488 for another picture - pic is also on coinfacts.
I'm sadly sidelined...otherwise I would be in there swinging.
Will it hit $20K? My prognostication is 'yes'. >>
I don't collect proof Walkers but I did notice that one!
On another Walker note, I see some High Desert coins are being offered. Moving out of Walkers already or disposing of some duplicates?
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
<< <i>Oh, my, that 1937 PF68 half dollar is a beauty.
Wow!
Reference slab 25511488 for another picture - pic is also on coinfacts.
I'm sadly sidelined...otherwise I would be in there swinging.
Will it hit $20K? My prognostication is 'yes'. >>
Is every single new PCGS slab scuffed beyond belief? I'm beginning to think so. They are scratch magnets
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
AB
<< <i>There are a lot more than just walkers from High Desert >>
Now that you mention it, I see that there are quite a few High Desert coins -- of course I can't figure out how to search for just those coins in the auction (if it can be done). For what it's worth, the High Desert type set is still listed on the PCGS registry, although the Walker set did a disappearing act a while back.
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.