Package Missing 154 PSA Cards Board Detectives Needed !!

thedutymon

Good morning,

We have a group sub package missing with 154 PSA cards. It was last sighted (Scanned) on Dec. 10th at 9:00 am and has been missing since. That is 11 days ago. I have the PSA Shipping Supervisor, 4 different PostMasters and the USPS Business Enterprises looking for this package. They haven't fopund anything in 3-4 days of vigilant searching. Just in case it was stolen and somebody is stupid enough to try and move them quick I thought I would post the Cards and cert #'s so if any of you intrepid Detectives see anything you can alert! I hope I am just being overly Pessimistic, but also want to be proactive!

Thanks

Neil

1 1 20860843 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 TOPPS 20 JULIUS ERVING Card
2 1 20860844 MINT 9 1979 TOPPS 93 ROBERT PARISH Card
3 1 20860845 MINT 9 1987 FLEER 111 WAYMAN TISDALE Card
4 1 20860846 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 FLEER 11 LARRY BIRD Card
5 1 20860847 MINT 9 1987 FLEER 65 JOHN LONG Card
6 1 20860848 MINT 9 1972 TOPPS 275 GARO YEPREMIAN ALL-PRO Card
7 1 20860849 MINT 9 1972 TOPPS 313 JIM BEIRNE Card
8 1 20860850 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1972 TOPPS 270 OTIS TAYLOR ALL-PRO Card
9 1 20860851 GEM MINT 10 1972 TOPPS 330 ANDY RUSSELL Card
10 1 20860852 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 TOPPS 75 TERRY BRADSHAW Card
11 1 20860853 MINT 9 1978 TOPPS 400 O.J. SIMPSON Card
12 1 20860854 GEM MINT 10 1978 TOPPS 165 JACK LAMBERT Card
13 1 20860855 MINT 9 1978 TOPPS 331 PASSING LEADERS B.GRIESE/R.STAUBACH Card
14 1 20860856 GEM MINT 10 1979 TOPPS 320 JACK HAM Card
15 1 20860857 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 TOPPS 400 ROGER STAUBACH Card
16 1 20860858 MINT 9 1979 TOPPS 198 STEVE LARGENT Card
17 1 20860859 N8: MISCUT 1979 TOPPS 48 DOUG WILLIAMS Card
18 1 20860860 MINT 9 1979 TOPPS 335 WALTER PAYTON RECORD BREAKER Card
19 1 20860861 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 TOPPS 480 WALTER PAYTON Card
20 1 20860862 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 TOPPS 375 TERRY BRADSHAW Card
21 1 20860863 EXCELLENT 5 1970 KELLOGG'S 12 BILL KILMER Card ???
21 2 20860864 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1970 KELLOGG'S 12 BILL KILMER Card
22 1 20860865 GEM MINT 10 1970 KELLOGG'S 8 JIM NANCE Card
23 1 20860866 GOOD 2 1970 KELLOGG'S 31 LEROY KELLY Card ????
24 1 20860867 GEM MINT 10 1970 KELLOGG'S 29 MATT SNELL Card
25 1 20860868 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1970 KELLOGG'S 22 MEL FARR Card ???
26 1 20860869 MINT 9 1970 KELLOGG'S 13 ALEX KARRAS Card
27 1 20860870 GEM MINT 10 1970 KELLOGG'S 9 NORMAN SNEAD Card
28 1 20860871 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1970 KELLOGG'S 44 JOHN ROLAND Card ???
29 1 20860872 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1970 KELLOGG'S 58 CARL LOCKHART Card ???
30 1 20860873 EXCELLENT 5 1960 FLEER 30 JIM BALDWIN Card ???
30 2 20860874 EXCELLENT 5 1960 FLEER 30 JIM BALDWIN Card ???
31 1 20860875 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1960 FLEER 34 RON DRZEWIECKI Card
32 1 20860876 EXCELLENT 5 1960 FLEER 103 JOHN McMULLAN Card ???
33 1 20860877 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1962 FLEER 20 ARCHIE MATSOS Card
34 1 20860878 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1963 FLEER 11 LARRY EISENHAUER Card
35 1 20860879 GEM MINT 10 1989 SCORE 329 JOE MONTANA Card
36 1 20860880 GEM MINT 10 1991 PRO SET 215 BRETT HULL Card This is a POP 1....Is it worth anything ????
37 1 20860881 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 PRO SET 343 TERRY SAWCHUK Card
38 1 20860882 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 COLLEGIATE COLLECTION AUBURN COKE 580 205 JOHN HEISMAN Card
39 1 20860883 MINT 9 OC 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 11 TWISTER "T" Card
40 1 20860884 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 12 XPAK 400 Card
41 1 20860885 MINT 9 OC 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 13 XMSC 210 Card
42 1 20860886 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 16 THE PUMPKIN Card
43 1 20860887 MINT 9 OC 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 17 MUSTANG Card
44 1 20860888 NEAR MINT 7 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 18 X-TURA Card
45 1 20860889 MINT 9 OC 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 20 '57 THUNDERBIRD Card
46 1 20860890 MINT 9 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 22 SURF WOODY Card
47 1 20860891 NEAR MINT 7 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 24 TURBO-SONIC Card
48 1 20860892 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 26 FLAKY "T" Card
49 1 20860893 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 28 RUBY "T" Card
50 1 20860894 NEAR MINT 7 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 29 BIMINI WAGON Card
51 1 20860895 MINT 9 OC 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 31 EMPEROR Card
52 1 20860896 MINT 9 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 32 COSMA RAY Card
53 1 20860897 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 33 LEMANS CADILLAC Card
54 1 20860898 MINT 9 OC 1968 TOPPS MILTON BRADLEY 20 BROOKS ROBINSON Card
55 1 20860899 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1968 TOPPS MILTON BRADLEY 85 GAYLORD PERRY Card
56 1 20860900 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1968 TOPPS MILTON BRADLEY 156 WORLD SERIES GAME 6 Card
57 1 20860901 MINT 9 OC 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 8 THE TANGERINE Card
58 1 20860902 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 10 LI'L BEAUTY Card
59 1 20860903 GEM MINT 10 1989 SCORE 148 HARRIS BARTON Card
60 1 20860904 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2001 TOPPS CHROME 277 JUSTIN SMITH ROOKIE REFRACTOR Card
61 1 20860905 MINT 9 2004 BOWMAN 144 VINCE WILFORK Card
61 2 20860906 MINT 9 2004 BOWMAN 144 VINCE WILFORK Card
62 1 20860907 MINT 9 2010 TOPPS CHROME C112 ROB GRONKOWSKI RUNNING/CUTTING POSE Card
63 1 20860908 GEM MINT 10 1993 FINEST 1 MICHAEL JORDAN Card
64 1 20860909 MINT 9 2003 FLEER E-X 102 LeBRON JAMES Card
65 1 20860910 MINT 9 2003 FLEER E-X 90 DWYANE WADE Card
66 1 20860911 MINT 9 2004 TOPPS CHROME 166 DWIGHT HOWARD Card
67 1 20860912 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 TOPPS 635 ROBIN YOUNT Card
68 1 20860913 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1971 TOPPS 156 TERRY BRADSHAW Card
69 1 20860914 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 TOPPS 216 JOE MONTANA Card
70 1 20860915 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1988 FLEER 17 MICHAEL JORDAN Card
71 1 20860916 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 1 SUPER MARAUDER Card
72 1 20860917 NEAR MINT 7 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 2 NEW BREED T.V. CAR Card
73 1 20860918 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 5 T PLUS 11 Card
74 1 20860919 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 6 CABRIOLET Card
75 1 20860920 NEAR MINT 7 1968 TOPPS HOT RODS MILTON BRADLEY 7 RODSTER Card
76 1 20860921 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 OC 1967 TOPPS MILTON BRADLEY 12 ART GRAHAM Card
77 1 20860922 EXCELLENT 5 1967 TOPPS MILTON BRADLEY 18 STEW BARBER Pack
78 1 20860923 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1967 TOPPS MILTON BRADLEY 30 NEMIAH WILSON Card
79 1 20860924 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1967 TOPPS MILTON BRADLEY 49 LARRY ELKINS Card
80 1 20860925 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1967 TOPPS MILTON BRADLEY 67 JERRY MAYS Card
81 1 20860926 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1967 TOPPS MILTON BRADLEY 84 BILLY NEIGHBORS Pack
82 1 20860927 NEAR MINT 7 1967 TOPPS MILTON BRADLEY 95 WINSTON HILL Card
83 1 20860928 NEAR MINT 7 1967 TOPPS MILTON BRADLEY 117 TOM DAY Card
84 1 20860929 EXCELLENT 5 1967 TOPPS MILTON BRADLEY 124 JACQUE MacKINNON Pack
85 1 20860930 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1956 TOPPS 6 RAY BOONE GRAY BACK Card
86 1 20860931 NEAR MINT 7 1956 TOPPS 61 BILL SKOWRON GRAY BACK Card
87 1 20860932 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1956 TOPPS 90 REDLEGS TEAM NO DATE, NAME LEFT-GRAY BACK Card
88 1 20860933 EXCELLENT 5 1956 TOPPS 95 BRAVES TEAM NO DATE, NAME LEFT-GRAY BACK Card
89 1 20860934 EXCELLENT+ 5.5 1956 TOPPS 99 DON ZIMMER GRAY BACK Card
90 1 20860935 EXCELLENT 5 1956 TOPPS 110 YOGI BERRA GRAY BACK Card
91 1 20860936 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1956 TOPPS 117 VIRGIL TRUCKS GRAY BACK Card
92 1 20860937 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1956 TOPPS 118 NELLIE FOX WHITE BACK Card
93 1 20860938 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1956 TOPPS 120 RICHIE ASHBURN GRAY BACK Card
94 1 20860939 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1956 TOPPS 125 MINNIE MINOSO GRAY BACK Card
95 1 20860940 EXCELLENT 5 1956 TOPPS 127 WILLIE JONES WHITE BACK Card
96 1 20860941 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1956 TOPPS 130 WILLIE MAYS GRAY BACK Card
97 1 20860942 EXCELLENT 5 1956 TOPPS 130 WILLIE MAYS WHITE BACK Card
98 1 20860943 NEAR MINT 7 1956 TOPPS 152 BILLY HOEFT GRAY BACK Card
99 1 20860944 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1956 TOPPS 166 DODGERS TEAM GRAY BACK Card
100 1 20860945 EXCELLENT 5 1956 TOPPS 180 ROBIN ROBERTS WHITE BACK Card
101 1 20860946 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1956 TOPPS 181 BILLY MARTIN Card
102 1 20860947 EXCELLENT 5 1956 TOPPS 195 GEORGE KELL Card
103 1 20860948 NEAR MINT 7 1956 TOPPS 204 ART SWANSON Card
104 1 20860949 NEAR MINT 7 1956 TOPPS 207 JIM SMALL Card
105 1 20860950 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1956 TOPPS 267 BOB NIEMAN Card
106 1 20860951 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 OC 1956 TOPPS 281 ART HOUTTEMAN Card
107 1 20860952 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 OC 1956 TOPPS 284 IKE DELOCK Card
108 1 20860953 NEAR MINT 7 OC 1956 TOPPS 292 LUIS APARICIO Card
109 1 20860954 MINT 9 OC 1956 TOPPS 300 VIC WERTZ Card
110 1 20860955 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1956 TOPPS 304 FRANK MALZONE Card
111 1 20860956 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 OC 1956 TOPPS 312 ANDY PAFKO Card
112 1 20860957 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1956 TOPPS 322 KARL OLSON Card
113 1 20860958 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 OC 1956 TOPPS 332 DON LARSEN Card
114 1 20860959 NEAR MINT 7 1956 ELVIS PRESLEY 36 CHOW TIME ON THE MOVIE SET Card
115 1 20860960 NEAR MINT 7 1957 TOPPS 20 HANK AARON Card Was a NM 7, then a EX-MT 6, back to a NM 7
116 1 20860961 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1971 TOPPS 688 SPARKY ANDERSON Card
117 1 20860962 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1971 TOPPS 692 A.L. PITCHERS HAYDEL/MORET/TWITCHELL Card
118 1 20860963 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1971 TOPPS 695 JOE NIEKRO Card
119 1 20860964 MINT 9 1973 TOPPS 438 ENZO HERNANDEZ Card
120 1 20860965 EXCELLENT 5 1977 TOPPS 20 GRAIG NETTLES Card
121 1 20860966 MINT 9 1977 TOPPS 41 JIM KERN Card
122 1 20860967 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 TOPPS 110 STEVE CARLTON Card
122 2 20860968 MINT 9 1977 TOPPS 110 STEVE CARLTON Card
123 1 20860969 MINT 9 1977 TOPPS 120 ROD CAREW Card
124 1 20860970 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 TOPPS 140 MIKE SCHMIDT Card
125 1 20860971 GEM MINT 10 1977 TOPPS 243 RON REED Card
126 1 20860972 MINT 9 1977 TOPPS 260 J.R. RICHARD Card
127 1 20860973 MINT 9 1977 TOPPS 272 LEE LACY Card
128 1 20860974 GEM MINT 10 1977 TOPPS 295 GARY CARTER Card
129 1 20860975 GEM MINT 10 1977 TOPPS 301 TOBY HARRAH Card
130 1 20860976 MINT 9 1977 TOPPS 421 DOUG RAU Card
131 1 20860977 MINT 9 1977 TOPPS 492 ROOKIE OUTFIELDERS Card
132 1 20860978 MINT 9 1977 TOPPS 510 JOHN CANDELARIA Card
133 1 20860979 EXCELLENT 5 1977 TOPPS 543 RON BLOMBERG Card
134 1 20860980 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 TOPPS 580 GEORGE BRETT Card
135 1 20860981 MINT 9 1978 TOPPS 664 FRED STANLEY Card
136 1 20860982 MINT 9 1989 UPPER DECK 1 KEN GRIFFEY JR. STAR ROOKIE Card
136 2 20860983 EXCELLENT 5 1989 UPPER DECK 1 KEN GRIFFEY JR. STAR ROOKIE Card
136 3 20860984 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 UPPER DECK 1 KEN GRIFFEY JR. STAR ROOKIE Card
136 4 20860985 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 UPPER DECK 1 KEN GRIFFEY JR. STAR ROOKIE Card
136 5 20860986 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 UPPER DECK 1 KEN GRIFFEY JR. STAR ROOKIE Card
136 6 20860987 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 UPPER DECK 1 KEN GRIFFEY JR. STAR ROOKIE Card
137 1 20860988 MINT 9 1990 TOPPS 414 FRANK THOMAS NAME ON FRONT Card
137 2 20860989 MINT 9 1990 TOPPS 414 FRANK THOMAS NAME ON FRONT Card
137 3 20860990 MINT 9 1990 TOPPS 414 FRANK THOMAS NAME ON FRONT Card
137 4 20860991 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 TOPPS 414 FRANK THOMAS NAME ON FRONT Card
137 5 20860992 MINT 9 1990 TOPPS 414 FRANK THOMAS NAME ON FRONT Card
137 6 20860993 MINT 9 1990 TOPPS 414 FRANK THOMAS NAME ON FRONT Card
137 7 20860994 MINT 9 1990 TOPPS 414 FRANK THOMAS NAME ON FRONT Card
137 8 20860995 MINT 9 1990 TOPPS 414 FRANK THOMAS NAME ON FRONT Card
138 1 20860996 GEM MINT 10 2010 BOWMAN PROSPECTS AUTOGRAPH BPAMM MANNY MACHADO

burke23

Damn - that sucks, Neil. A few will certainly stick out on the 'bay if they get there. Fingers crossed fro you and the piggybackers that USPS comes through. Hopefully insured value is sufficient in case that isn't the case.

markj111

Good luck with it. I once received a notice from the P.O. to pick up a package (cards, but not from PSA). They could not find it. Eventually it was returned to sender-I have no idea where it had been. Anyway, I eventually got the cards.

llafoe

When I open my Secret Santa gift on Christmas Eve, I'll let you know if I received these 154 cards.

Hopefully you'll find them soon.

JHS5120

Hope is not lost!

I had a PRIORITY package take 10 days to get to Newport Beach and it was only scanned ONCE! If you checked the USPS website, it's still in Eatontown, NJ. lol

thedutymon

<< <i> that USPS comes through. Hopefully insured value is sufficient in case that isn't the case. >>



That's a good question, does anybody know how the process works in this case, I had $4500 on the lot. How does PSA calculate, being Self Insured? Do they pay the $4500 or do they do some sort of calculation based on the actual cards?

Thanks

Neil

stown

<< <i>Good luck with it. I once received a notice from the P.O. to pick up a package (cards, but not from PSA). They could not find it. Eventually it was returned to sender-I have no idea where it had been. Anyway, I eventually got the cards. >>



That happened to me as well. Fingers crossed.

llafoe

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<< <i> that USPS comes through. Hopefully insured value is sufficient in case that isn't the case. >>



That's a good question, does anybody know how the process works in this case, I had $4500 on the lot. How does PSA calculate, being Self Insured? Do they pay the $4500 or do they do some sort of calculation based on the actual cards?

Thanks

Neil >>



I would suspect they'd use the SMR to value the cards... whether it's higher or lower than your self-imposed value.

grote15

Was it last scanned at the Anaheim sort facility? There are big issues there regarding stolen packages over on PCGS board.

sportscardstop

<< <i>Was it last scanned at the Anaheim sort facility? There are big issues there regarding stolen packages over on PCGS board. >>



No, it was last scanned in New Castle, CO. Basically PSA sent it to his old address and the last scan on Dec 10th says it was being forwarded. The forwarding address is in CO as well.

thedutymon

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<< <i>Was it last scanned at the Anaheim sort facility? There are big issues there regarding stolen packages over on PCGS board. >>



No, it was last scanned in New Castle, CO. Basically PSA sent it to his old address and the last scan on Dec 10th says it was being forwarded. The forwarding address is in CO as well. >>



As silly as this sounds, According to the Post Office, for it to go from my old town to my new town, 35 miles apart, it needed to make a trip up and down I-70 for about 470 miles, and drive past the drop off location in the process. It would have to go to two different Central Distributing centers in Grand Junction Co. and then Denver, Co., then to my new town. This is the only hopefully saving grace, they just haven't found it yet and its just sitting somewhere still in their (Post Office) system

Neil

burke23

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<< <i> that USPS comes through. Hopefully insured value is sufficient in case that isn't the case. >>



That's a good question, does anybody know how the process works in this case, I had $4500 on the lot. How does PSA calculate, being Self Insured? Do they pay the $4500 or do they do some sort of calculation based on the actual cards?

Thanks

Neil >>



The assumption isn't that they get insured for whatever you paid? I would not assume PSA would be involved unless they damaged the cards, unless the address was their issue? Even then, I have a feeling you would be hard pressed to get them to cover more than what you paid to insure it for.

thedutymon

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<< <i> that USPS comes through. Hopefully insured value is sufficient in case that isn't the case. >>



That's a good question, does anybody know how the process works in this case, I had $4500 on the lot. How does PSA calculate, being Self Insured? Do they pay the $4500 or do they do some sort of calculation based on the actual cards?

Thanks

Neil >>



The assumption isn't that they get insured for whatever you paid? I would not assume PSA would be involved unless they damaged the cards, unless the address was their issue? Even then, I have a feeling you would be hard pressed to get them to cover more than what you paid to insure it for. >>



The question wasn't about getting covered for what I/We paid, but whether they Pay what we covered ($4500), or try and make it less using some formula (ie: SMR, VCP, E-Bay).

Neil

llafoe

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<< <i> that USPS comes through. Hopefully insured value is sufficient in case that isn't the case. >>



That's a good question, does anybody know how the process works in this case, I had $4500 on the lot. How does PSA calculate, being Self Insured? Do they pay the $4500 or do they do some sort of calculation based on the actual cards?

Thanks

Neil >>



The assumption isn't that they get insured for whatever you paid? I would not assume PSA would be involved unless they damaged the cards, unless the address was their issue? Even then, I have a feeling you would be hard pressed to get them to cover more than what you paid to insure it for. >>



The question wasn't about getting covered for what I/We paid, but whether they Pay what we covered ($4500), or try and make it less using some formula (ie: SMR, VCP, E-Bay).

Neil >>



Interesting concept... if I insure a $1,000 package for $5,000; should I receive $1,000 or $5,000?

Do you know what the SMR value is... $4,500? more? less?

burke23

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<< <i> that USPS comes through. Hopefully insured value is sufficient in case that isn't the case. >>



That's a good question, does anybody know how the process works in this case, I had $4500 on the lot. How does PSA calculate, being Self Insured? Do they pay the $4500 or do they do some sort of calculation based on the actual cards?

Thanks

Neil >>



The assumption isn't that they get insured for whatever you paid? I would not assume PSA would be involved unless they damaged the cards, unless the address was their issue? Even then, I have a feeling you would be hard pressed to get them to cover more than what you paid to insure it for. >>



The question wasn't about getting covered for what I/We paid, but whether they Pay what we covered ($4500), or try and make it less using some formula (ie: SMR, VCP, E-Bay).

Neil >>



Odd - I guess that makes sense.....have a feeling you are hosed if you underinsure, and "only" get their perceived value if you overinsure according to their prices...crappy stuff.

llafoe

<< <i>Odd - I guess that makes sense.....have a feeling you are hosed if you underinsure, and "only" get their perceived value if you overinsure according to their prices...crappy stuff. >>



From the USPS:

What is evidence of value?
If the item is worth $100 or less, you can provide a statement that includes the purchase date, location, and price, as well as whether the item was new or used.

For more expensive items, evidence of value can include…
•a sales receipt.
•an invoice or bill of sale.
•a copy of the cancelled check or money order.
•a credit card billing statement.
•a final and complete transaction sheet indicating the amount deducted from an Internet account.
•or other documentation indicating the amount paid.

For damaged items, you’ll also need to provide an estimate of the repair costs from a reputable dealer.

From PSA:

PSA will exercise reasonable care in handling cards submitted for grading, review, or reholdering. However, if PSA determines that Customer's card was lost or damaged while in PSA's possession, Customer will be compensated based upon the fair market value of the card as determined by PSA standard procedures which may include filing a claim with our insurance carrier. The declared value you stated on this form is for estimating the insurance coverage only, and the fair market value of the card may be less than your declared value. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE TOTAL LIABILITY EXCEED THE DECLARED VALUE OF THE CARD. Such compensation shall be Customer's exclusive remedy for any loss or damage.

I don't understand the confusion... every thing is in black-and-white print and you acknowledge agreement with the above policies when you mail an item or submit a package to PSA. "The declared value you stated on this form is for estimating the insurance coverage only, and the fair market value of the card may be less than your declared value." It took me less than a minute to find the answer... and that included "creating" a submission form, Ctrl-F to search for insurance and Ctrl-C and then Ctrl-V to cut-and-paste the answer into this thread.

Maurice

<< <i>From PSA:

PSA will exercise reasonable care in handling cards submitted for grading, review, or reholdering. However, if PSA determines that Customer's card was lost or damaged while in PSA's possession, Customer will be compensated based upon the fair market value of the card as determined by PSA standard procedures which may include filing a claim with our insurance carrier. The declared value you stated on this form is for estimating the insurance coverage only, and the fair market value of the card may be less than your declared value. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE TOTAL LIABILITY EXCEED THE DECLARED VALUE OF THE CARD. Such compensation shall be Customer's exclusive remedy for any loss or damage. >>



Good luck.

thedutymon

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<< <i>From PSA:

PSA will exercise reasonable care in handling cards submitted for grading, review, or reholdering. However, if PSA determines that Customer's card was lost or damaged while in PSA's possession, Customer will be compensated based upon the fair market value of the card as determined by PSA standard procedures which may include filing a claim with our insurance carrier. The declared value you stated on this form is for estimating the insurance coverage only, and the fair market value of the card may be less than your declared value. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE TOTAL LIABILITY EXCEED THE DECLARED VALUE OF THE CARD. Such compensation shall be Customer's exclusive remedy for any loss or damage. >>



Good luck. >>



Alway the same attitude with you isn't it! Negative!

Its considered in their possesion until you sign for it from the USPS!

Neil

sportscardstop

I have a feeling it will arrive xmas eve. Keeping my hopes up because my declared value is nowhere close to what the cards sell for (I didn't expect 10's on a few of the 1970s cards). Lesson learned.

burke23

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<< <i>From PSA:

PSA will exercise reasonable care in handling cards submitted for grading, review, or reholdering. However, if PSA determines that Customer's card was lost or damaged while in PSA's possession, Customer will be compensated based upon the fair market value of the card as determined by PSA standard procedures which may include filing a claim with our insurance carrier. The declared value you stated on this form is for estimating the insurance coverage only, and the fair market value of the card may be less than your declared value. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE TOTAL LIABILITY EXCEED THE DECLARED VALUE OF THE CARD. Such compensation shall be Customer's exclusive remedy for any loss or damage. >>



Good luck. >>



Alway the same attitude with you isn't it! Negative!

Its considered in their possesion until you sign for it from the USPS!

Neil >>



See - I guess that is where I would have thought differently (wrong?). I would have thought PSA would not consider it in their possession once USPS confirms receipt. Why would PSA take responsibility of cards after they are out of their control? I can see PSA having too look at value if theyw ere to damage/lose a card in hand, but I would simply assume you get the insured value you place if USPS were to lose/damage the item.

llafoe

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<< <i>From PSA:

PSA will exercise reasonable care in handling cards submitted for grading, review, or reholdering. However, if PSA determines that Customer's card was lost or damaged while in PSA's possession, Customer will be compensated based upon the fair market value of the card as determined by PSA standard procedures which may include filing a claim with our insurance carrier. The declared value you stated on this form is for estimating the insurance coverage only, and the fair market value of the card may be less than your declared value. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE TOTAL LIABILITY EXCEED THE DECLARED VALUE OF THE CARD. Such compensation shall be Customer's exclusive remedy for any loss or damage. >>



Good luck. >>



Alway the same attitude with you isn't it! Negative!

Its considered in their possesion until you sign for it from the USPS!

Neil >>



Actually, it's in the USPS possession as soon as it's scanned into the USPS system. And yes possession is properly spelled that way. >>



I suspect PSA self insures the packages sent from their offices. As such, PSA is in "possession" of the package until it is received by the recepient.

CardBoardTime

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<< <i>From PSA:

PSA will exercise reasonable care in handling cards submitted for grading, review, or reholdering. However, if PSA determines that Customer's card was lost or damaged while in PSA's possession, Customer will be compensated based upon the fair market value of the card as determined by PSA standard procedures which may include filing a claim with our insurance carrier. The declared value you stated on this form is for estimating the insurance coverage only, and the fair market value of the card may be less than your declared value. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE TOTAL LIABILITY EXCEED THE DECLARED VALUE OF THE CARD. Such compensation shall be Customer's exclusive remedy for any loss or damage. >>



Good luck. >>



Alway the same attitude with you isn't it! Negative!

Its considered in their possesion until you sign for it from the USPS!

Neil >>



See - I guess that is where I would have thought differently (wrong?). I would have thought PSA would not consider it in their possession once USPS confirms receipt. Why would PSA take responsibility of cards after they are out of their control? I can see PSA having too look at value if theyw ere to damage/lose a card in hand, but I would simply assume you get the insured value you place if USPS were to lose/damage the item. >>



If it is PSA's responsibility to insure the package when returning to sender, then it should be insured for the amount requested. Doesn't matter if it's "self insured", they should refund the full amount listed by submitter.

llafoe

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<< <i>From PSA:

PSA will exercise reasonable care in handling cards submitted for grading, review, or reholdering. However, if PSA determines that Customer's card was lost or damaged while in PSA's possession, Customer will be compensated based upon the fair market value of the card as determined by PSA standard procedures which may include filing a claim with our insurance carrier. The declared value you stated on this form is for estimating the insurance coverage only, and the fair market value of the card may be less than your declared value. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE TOTAL LIABILITY EXCEED THE DECLARED VALUE OF THE CARD. Such compensation shall be Customer's exclusive remedy for any loss or damage. >>



Good luck. >>



Alway the same attitude with you isn't it! Negative!

Its considered in their possesion until you sign for it from the USPS!

Neil >>



See - I guess that is where I would have thought differently (wrong?). I would have thought PSA would not consider it in their possession once USPS confirms receipt. Why would PSA take responsibility of cards after they are out of their control? I can see PSA having too look at value if theyw ere to damage/lose a card in hand, but I would simply assume you get the insured value you place if USPS were to lose/damage the item. >>



If it is PSA's responsibility to insure the package when returning to sender, then it should be insured for the amount requested. Doesn't matter if it's "self insured", they should refund the full amount listed by submitter. >>



I'm guessing you haven't actually read this thread and are making comments based on your opinion alone?

mealeworm

I also am one that probably under valued my cards and will take a hit.

Funny thing is I was pissed more about getting hosed on my grades than the package being lost.


Also Psa is on the hook not the USPS. PSA might recoupe their losses from USPS, but they 100% will have to pay Neil.

mealeworm

Learn what?.. Give me a beak

That statement makes me think you assume I don't know how to grade.

grote15

PSA has paid out and will pay declared value for any package lost en route to you. All packages are insurrd for that very reason.

vladguerrero

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<< <i>From PSA:

PSA will exercise reasonable care in handling cards submitted for grading, review, or reholdering. However, if PSA determines that Customer's card was lost or damaged while in PSA's possession, Customer will be compensated based upon the fair market value of the card as determined by PSA standard procedures which may include filing a claim with our insurance carrier. The declared value you stated on this form is for estimating the insurance coverage only, and the fair market value of the card may be less than your declared value. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE TOTAL LIABILITY EXCEED THE DECLARED VALUE OF THE CARD. Such compensation shall be Customer's exclusive remedy for any loss or damage. >>



Good luck. >>



Alway the same attitude with you isn't it! Negative!

Its considered in their possesion until you sign for it from the USPS!

Neil >>



Actually, it's in the USPS possession as soon as it's scanned into the USPS system. And yes possession is properly spelled that way. >>



or not

mealeworm

Lol. Really. Who the heck are you to judge my grading skills? This isn't some newbie putting together a sub and getting blasted. Plus all I said was I was pissed. News flash grading is subjective. I get that. I also know when my grades aren't what they should be. Having graded over 1000+ cards from the 50s I tend to think I can say whatever I want about my grades. Go put your blue gloves on and stick with those tilted 79s and troll elsewhere.

churchiscool

i wouldn't worry yet. usps is REALLY slow this year. i had a package that just disappear for a week before showing up in the system again. i'm still waiting on a priority package 2 states over since the 17th, and another package that was shipped but hasn't hit their system yet on the 15th.

CNote

Hilarious!!!

mealeworm

And another thing Paul. Way to worry about someone's grades when there are 154 Psa cards floating around somewhere. Nice, real nice. Go bump some 6 month old thread of you selling a card. Classic

handyman

Hopefully it will show up. The post office is crazy this month. A lot going on. Ive also had packages that seem to disappear but then randomly show up a month later. Dont give up. Best of luck everyone.

CardBoardTime

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As for the lost package, of course I want it to be recovered, I'd hate for my cards to get lost ... though they never have. . >>



That's because no one would steal PSA 6's of 1979 Topps baseball cards even if they were POP 1's

wrestlingcardking

I think this would have been way less likely if this was registered and not priority...... am I right that this was sent the "new" way?

mealeworm

I agree registered mail is the best bet. It wasn't registered. I will let Neil speak more about the details if he chooses, but this isn't a case of slow mail. At least it didn't start out as that.

swartz1

waiting for the Christmas miracle... - package arrives...

RipublicaninMass

I'm quitting the hobby because of this










BBL

bking

<< <i>I always use Fedex for return shipping from PSA. Cheaper and more convenient when you have an account with them. >>



As long as you don't get one of those Fedex guys who tosses your new TV over the wall instead of placing it on the porch.

thedutymon

<< <i>I always use Fedex for return shipping from PSA. Cheaper and more convenient when you have an account with them. >>



Yeah I've had good experiences with FedEx and UPS as well, lets see: the time I bought a Framed Collectible and it was tossed on the back deck in pieces, that was FEDEX, or the several times that my Packages were left out in the Rain, One time destroying about $150 worth of cards, got nothing but the runaround on that one..."It was Delivered Sir!", That's been both of them, more so UPS, but FEDEX as well, or the time that my package was left on the driveway and the neighbor kids stole it, or the time...........I could go on and on, they all have there downfalls and if you think anyone is better than the next...then your just one Fricked up package away from being anti ________ (Fill in the Blank)!
Carrier

Neil

wrestlingcardking

I once saw the guy in the lobby of the post office that had signed for my package after the postman had told me there was no package of mine there even though I was standing there with the slip. I look over and another guy is holding it. Pretty random but I got it!

Brick

My son worked for FedEx for several years. He recommended you ship with another carrier if you want your package delivered safely. I purchased a fairly expensive card (for me) from a well respected seller. It was delivered by UPS. I was in my office, heard someone on the porch, went out to see who was there. He simply set the package down, not so much as ringing the bell. I guess I will stick with the USPS. On second thought they lost a package of PSA cards I shipped. Don't matter who you use, if you ship often sooner or later you will be dissapointed.

otwcards

There are nightmare stories about all carriers. Tossing boxes, leaving expensive items on doorsteps, forging signatures for items and the list goes on. You are at the mercy of the honesty and integrity of each person that comes in contact with your package . . . plain and simple.

Hoping that Neil's package (sorry if that sounds funny) is just in limbo on a shelf somewhere and shows up soon. I'd hate to have that lingering over me...

Maurice

<< <i>Basically PSA sent it to his old address >>



How and why did this happen?

Seems odd that thedutymon failed to mention this very important detail in his initial post.

goraiders

Neil,
I sure hope this all works out for you and those INVOLVED,I just had a packageshowing deliverd
and after 5 days,emailed seller and tried top see what we could work out,2 days later box shows up.
Hope same happens for you and those INVOLVED..

On another note,your early season bet is looking better and better.

thedutymon

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On another note,your early season bet is looking better and better. >>



Yes it is!!!

Neil