Why eBay Sellers Drink

Senex

Auction eds Sunday night with last second snipe bid.
I send eBay invoice immediately.
As of Tuesday morning, buyer hasn't paid.
Buyer is a long time eBayer with tons of FB.
Won't answer emails either.
Why bid if you don't want to pay?

notwilight

I don't worry about it for at least 3 weeks. Generally they all pay and I never have to communicate with them. Lots of coin buyers remember when you ordered things by putting the order form in the envelope, put a 7c stamp on it, and waiting 4-6 weeks for return mail. --Jerry

Senex

<< <i>I don't worry about it for at least 3 weeks. Generally they all pay and I never have to communicate with them. Lots of coin buyers remember when you ordered things by putting the order form in the envelope, put a 7c stamp on it, and waiting 4-6 weeks for return mail. --Jerry >>


3 weeks? You must be kidding.
My eBay Unpaid Item Assistant is set for 4 days.
This was an inexpensive item and there is no reason why it shouldn't have been paid for.
How I wish eBay would allow sellers to leave neg FB!

jmski52

I hear ya. I "sold" a coin for $0.01 5 days ago, and the idiot still hasn't paid. Lucky me, I'll save $2.00 on shipping & materials in addition to the gas money I would have used going to the post office.

Idiots abound.

messydesk

Early last week, someone bought a $4 item from me, hasn't paid after at least 3 reminders, but promptly left positive feedback. Now, I like positive feedback as much as the next guy, but if I'm not going to get paid, I'd rather have my FVF credit.

ebaybuyer

definately jumping the gun. he sniped the item with a second to go which tells me he used a sniper program. which means he is probably not on the computer all the time. he may not be aware of winning it yet. i allow 14 days to pay for anything. and 14 days to return. jumping the gun can make a buyer uneasy, if he has tons of feedback, i would worry too much about it, not everyone lives at thier computer desk

ebaybuyer

add to that, some people have separate buying/selling accts,... give the guy at least a week. if the unpaid item assistant worries you, turn it off

djm

Don't you have to drink heavily to use eBay in the first place???

DorkGirl

<< <i>Don't you have to drink heavily to use eBay in the first place??? >>



That can really get you into trouble.

guitarwes

I think you're just looking for an excuse to drink........

MadMarty

I wait 14 days before I file a NPB.. People are traveling for the holidays. Filing a NPB after 4 days isn't right!!! Mine was set up to auto mail one after 7 days and I turned it off.

airplanenut

That's not a reason to drink. After a month and on-and-off email responses, okay. But 2 days? You're nuts.

AUandAG

Geeeeez, give it a little time buddy! I have a friend that runs a ranch. Often he is in
the "field" for several weeks at a time. Line cabin to line cabin and such. Maybe this
guy is on a rig in th gulf, or such. You know that this is a great time to vacation in Hawaii.
Any such "problems" will correct themselves when he gets on the computer next.

bob

LanceNewmanOCC

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if you have the unpaid item assist on for 4 days why post here before then?

if no payment after 48 hours with no communication makes a person drink, the secret is that they are an alcoholic and use any reason do drink

well its 3:45 pm time to drink, well its 4:00 time to drink

relax buddy, you'll live longer
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GoldenEyeNumismatics

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<< <i>I don't worry about it for at least 3 weeks. Generally they all pay and I never have to communicate with them. Lots of coin buyers remember when you ordered things by putting the order form in the envelope, put a 7c stamp on it, and waiting 4-6 weeks for return mail. --Jerry >>


3 weeks? You must be kidding.
My eBay Unpaid Item Assistant is set for 4 days.
This was an inexpensive item and there is no reason why it shouldn't have been paid for.
How I wish eBay would allow sellers to leave neg FB!
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Are you kidding me? You would leave a negative if it took a buyer more than TWO days to pay?

That's ridiculous. For people who don't carry a significant paypal balance, and who don't have an instant transfer set up between their paypal and bank accounts, it can take 4 days to transfer money from a bank into paypal. I won't even send an email to an unpaid buyer until 5 or 6 days after the listing closed.

LindeDad

You know with out getting too soused it is possible to sell in most cases.

rhedden

It's probably an unattended snipe bid that the buyer forgot about. I have done this once as a buyer. When I found the unpaid item in Me eBay 3 days later, I said, "oh yeah, THAT coin," and paid for it. If they buyer had good feedback, just relax and wait for him/her to re-discover it and pay.

Bochiman

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<< <i>I don't worry about it for at least 3 weeks. Generally they all pay and I never have to communicate with them. Lots of coin buyers remember when you ordered things by putting the order form in the envelope, put a 7c stamp on it, and waiting 4-6 weeks for return mail. --Jerry >>


3 weeks? You must be kidding.
My eBay Unpaid Item Assistant is set for 4 days.
This was an inexpensive item and there is no reason why it shouldn't have been paid for.
How I wish eBay would allow sellers to leave neg FB!
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You are definitely impatient and not a seller I would like to deal with.
If he sniped it on Sunday (may have been set up in advance and done via a service), and you are concerned you didn't get your money for an inexpensive item after ONE (1) business day, then you have, imho, problems...and they aren't with your buyer.

Some folks travel, have things happen, etc. It can take more than a day. If you can't relax on that, then maybe ebay isn't the place for you to sell.

God help any ebay seller you may buy from that doesn't have the item in your hands 1 minute after you place your bid....you would probably neg him over that.

Senex

Well maybe I did jump the gun.
When I win on eBay, I pay or request an invoice immediately.
I suppose it is asking too much for others to do the same (altho I wish they did!)

GBurger717

I been on ebay now for 8 years and never had this many no pays from buyers with good feedback. Problem is ebay wont allow sellers to leave a negative anymore. The need to make change that and allow a seller to leave negative feedback and a non paying bidder case is closed.

Out of my last 10 auctions 4 still have not paid. I NEVER had it this bad!!

PerryHall

<< <i>But 2 days? You're nuts. >>



Agree. Perhaps the thread title should be "Why e-bay buyers drink."?

Pokermandude

<< <i>That's not a reason to drink. After a month and on-and-off email responses, okay. But 2 days? You're nuts. >>



This times a million. If a buyer taking more than 36 hours leads you to drink, you'll be drinking up all your meagre ebay profits and should probably stop selling on there!

LindeDad

Re-reading this I now know why eBay found it necessary to protect buyers from sellers that want to go ballistic and give neg's if not paid within two days.
Unpaid claim minimum time is four days now, and that gives a buyer who for some reason needs it another four days to pay.
When I first started selling on eBay the normal wait was a week to ten days to get the buyers check. Then another week or so to get it cleared then ship.

mrpotatoheadd

<< <i>I suppose it is asking too much for others to do the same (altho I wish they did!) >>

Anyone expecting (or even just asking) everybody else on eBay to do as they do, either buying or selling, is setting themselves up for disappointment.

notwilight

<< <i> This was an inexpensive item and there is no reason why it shouldn't have been paid for. | >>



So you know the buyer? Know their situation? Know their computer habit? "...no reason..." really?

I had a buyer once who turned out to be dead.

--Jerry

BryceM

Sigh.

Reading through this means I've wasted another precious minute of my life.

Senex

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<< <i> This was an inexpensive item and there is no reason why it shouldn't have been paid for. | >>



So you know the buyer? Know their situation? Know their computer habit? "...no reason..." really?

I had a buyer once who turned out to be dead.

--Jerry >>


I think it very unlikely the buyer died immediately after bidding on my item!
Everyone should just calm down and get off my back - I was just venting in my OP.

jayPem

<< <i>I think it very unlikely the buyer died immediately after bidding on my item!
Everyone should just calm down and get off my back - I was just venting in my OP. >>



Take away...US coin forum usually turns out to be a rough place for those who just want to vent...

johnny9434

maybe ebay and burger king could team up and you could have it your way

yellowkid

And todays Tuesday, two days? You're kidding, right ?

Senex

<< <i>And todays Tuesday, two days? You're kidding, right ? >>

Keep on beating that dead horse!

Bochiman

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<< <i> This was an inexpensive item and there is no reason why it shouldn't have been paid for. | >>



So you know the buyer? Know their situation? Know their computer habit? "...no reason..." really?

I had a buyer once who turned out to be dead.

--Jerry >>


I think it very unlikely the buyer died immediately after bidding on my item!
Everyone should just calm down and get off my back - I was just venting in my OP. >>




2 things:
* You should learn what sniping really is (ie....one doesn't need to be at the computer as it can be automated and could be set well in advance....I've done that and been traveling on an overseas flight when I've won....and not been able to pay for a couple of days due to circumstances.....and if that means someone doesn't want my bid/money, so be it)
* Maybe you should learn what is really acceptable to vent about before having a tantrum that someone didn't do what you wanted, how you wanted, and when you wanted........just a suggestion to make your forum experiences a bit more pleasant
(but, thank you for telling us what to do....to make YOUR life better since it is all about YOU )

Senex

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<< <i> This was an inexpensive item and there is no reason why it shouldn't have been paid for. | >>



So you know the buyer? Know their situation? Know their computer habit? "...no reason..." really?

I had a buyer once who turned out to be dead.

--Jerry >>


I think it very unlikely the buyer died immediately after bidding on my item!
Everyone should just calm down and get off my back - I was just venting in my OP. >>




2 things:
* You should learn what sniping really is (ie....one doesn't need to be at the computer as it can be automated and could be set well in advance....I've done that and been traveling on an overseas flight when I've won....and not been able to pay for a couple of days due to circumstances.....and if that means someone doesn't want my bid/money, so be it)
* Maybe you should learn what is really acceptable to vent about before having a tantrum that someone didn't do what you wanted, how you wanted, and when you wanted........just a suggestion to make your forum experiences a bit more pleasant
(but, thank you for telling us what to do....to make YOUR life better since it is all about YOU ) >>


Yes, you certainly make visiting the forum a pleasant experience with your snide remarks!
I sorry I'm not perfect like you apparently think you are.

Rampage

I have started to use eBay's automated thing for opening NPB cases. There has been a whole slough of NPBs in the last year for me. My automated thing is set up for 7 days, however.

LindeDad

Well I may have to go pop a top on a Sam Adams I just found out my auction winner on Sundays auction is a Aussie. I thought I had them blocked from bidding and now PayPal won't let him pay and get it sent to a friend here in the US.

DNADave

<< <i>Well I may have to go pop a top on a Sam Adams I just found out my auction winner on Sundays auction is a Aussie. I thought I had them blocked from bidding and now PayPal won't let him pay and get it sent to a friend here in the US. >>



Make it a Fosters...Mate.

Res

The fact that you're so upset after 2 days, makes me think that most of your buyers pay immediately. Sounds like ebay is a positive thing.

Inexpensive item, too. Chill

Shamika

<< <i>I don't worry about it for at least 3 weeks. Generally they all pay and I never have to communicate with them. Lots of coin buyers remember when you ordered things by putting the order form in the envelope, put a 7c stamp on it, and waiting 4-6 weeks for return mail. --Jerry >>




3 weeks would be a bit much for me, but 2 weeks would cause me to start worrying.

TwoSides2aCoin

It will be coffee , regardless. My weakness.

segoja

Amazing how the OP's attitude changes when he doesn't get his way!!!

The tide has turned and now as a seller you've really turned into a dealer. As such you were supposed to follow all the e-bay rules, which allows the buyer 7 days to pay.

Live by the sword die by the sword.

Give the buyer a break.

2ltdjorn

<< <i>Auction eds Sunday night with last second snipe bid.
I send eBay invoice immediately.
As of Tuesday morning, buyer hasn't paid.
Buyer is a long time eBayer with tons of FB.
Won't answer emails either.
Why bid if you don't want to pay? >>




Yea, I wouldn't get soo worked up. Give it some time... $hit happens! And if he doesn't pay what does it matter? You have lost anything, just re-list!

telephoto1

I didn't see how much money was involved...but I do agree that a couple days isn't a biggie. We send a reminder at 3 business days, a second reminder at 7 (if it gets that far), and then NPB after that-which seldom happens. Frankly since Ebay essentially forces buyers to pay via Paypal there really isn't any excuse for taking longer than a week to pay. I understand that things can happen, yada yada, but more often than not it has nothing to do with extenuating circumstances (although I've heard lots of creative excuses).

In my experience, if payment goes longer than 7-10 business days, the reason invariably boils down to one of these four reasons, in decreasing order of likelihood:

a) Buyer's remorse. (Far and away the #1 reason)
b) Buyer can't afford item for whatever reason and can't acknowledge same.
c) Sport bidder who never intended to buy item.
d) Someone else bid on item without bidder's knowledge.

That said, I've found that there is a direct correlation between inexpensive items and the number of sport bidders and NPBs. The rates of non payers in low dollar non-numismatic items on Ebay are staggering.

Baley

I think maybe the mention of a "last second snipe" is the key to it, it sounds like an automated snipe program rather than a live snipe.

Maybe he doesn't even know he won yet, or maybe this is one of many auctions he's working through.

Or maybe he's overextended by winning more than he expected, and is going to have to "ration" paying.

Either way, he should contact you soon, or you'll be filing NPB (it happens occasionally, goes with the territory)

best of luck

LindeDad

BTW the Aussie's Mum who is here in the US is sending a money order so PayPal don't get a cut this time....