slabbedcardprices.com

che

Disclaimer: I own this site...

I want the community to know that the price information service offered on slabbedcardprices.com is free till December 26th 2012 (no credit card info needed). I would like to hear some feedback about the site if you choose to sign up. Currently, prices realized for graded sports and non-sports cards from all major auction houses are being indexed and are in the system for the most part through 2007 (meaning cards manufactured up to the year 2007). Prices realized in auctions go back as far as 2009. The site should have all pricing available in a few weeks.

Simply go to slabbedcardprices.com and sign up. Be sure to check your spam folder for the confirmation email/link. Once you click on the confirmation link in the email you should be able to log in.

The purpose of my efforts is to bring a fast, reliable, affordable, easy-to-use pricing interface to the graded card market.

Please enjoy the site & let me know how it can be better.

Jeff

wrongleg

Can you only do a search by set? I couldn't figure out how to do a player search. Are the results sortable by date. I pulled up a 66 Koufax and there did not seem to be any logic to the order of how the previous sales came up. I think by date would be the most useful.

BobbyVCP

Why do you have a Sloate auction icon on your homepage? Barry has not had an auction in more then 3 years now.

conor912

I love the idea of a VCP competitor, but it needs work. I agree that the search function is pretty weak. VCP allows for several search function i.e set, name, card type, set classification, etc. Also, when I click into a set, I want to see the pricing info on the next page with the list of cards. I don't want to have to pick my card then pick the grade -I want to see all the grades laid out on one page and then have the ability, if I want, to click into the specific grade to see the chart you have up.


Also, I want to be able to to "show all" and not be limited to 200 entries per page. Bouncing between pages gets tediousnformthe bigger sets.....but that was moot since there seemed to be some sort of bug when I chose to see more than 100 entries on a page. It just said "showing 1 to NaN....."

che

<< <i>Can you only do a search by set? I couldn't figure out how to do a player search. Are the results sortable by date. I pulled up a 66 Koufax and there did not seem to be any logic to the order of how the previous sales came up. I think by date would be the most useful. >>



Player search is not yet operable. I understand some may wish to look for a card differently than I would. Navigating through a database isn't difficult if I know how one wants to sift through the data. I will work on some alternative options. The graphs arrange all pricing information chronologically. The table below the graph does not currently arrange the data in any particular order.

che

<< <i>Why do you have a Sloate auction icon on your homepage? Barry has not had an auction in more then 3 years now. >>



The Sloate icon is still on there because this project has been ongoing for nearly four years now. A simple cosmetic issue really.

che

<< <i>Also, when I click into a set, I want to see the pricing info on the next page with the list of cards. I don't want to have to pick my card then pick the grade -I want to see all the grades laid out on one page and then have the ability, if I want, to click into the specific grade to see the chart you have up. >>



To see pricing information on the next page you mean an average selling price of each grade of each card? Currently, one chooses a set, then a card, then a grade to be brought to the graphic display page with High, Low, Average price returns. So you would rather have the card and grade information (with associated average price) merged into one page. Is that what you mean?



<< <i>Also, I want to be able to to "show all" and not be limited to 200 entries per page. Bouncing between pages gets tediousnformthe bigger sets.....but that was moot since there seemed to be some sort of bug when I chose to see more than 100 entries on a page. It just said "showing 1 to NaN....." >>



I changed the default to 500 on the Categories pages. I'm thinking I'll remove the option altogether. The problem with "showing all" is upload speed for the scripts but I will look for a workaround to see if everything can be loaded for better navigation. I understand it's difficult to sift through so many pages to get to, say, 2006 Bowman Chrome.

gstarling

I really like the idea. From a UI/UX point of view, I have a few suggestions:

Think about what's the #1 thing you want someone to do when they visit your homepage and make it VERY easy for them to do that. If it's signup, I'd recommend a huge signup button. This is how your revolving card images work, but it isn't in any way obvious. You also are giving up real estate for no reason to the right. Shrinking the top banner is probably a good idea. If you're testing last login from IP, fine, but the truth is users don't care.

You're losing tons of real estate on every category page by putting in the image of the sport. It's really unnecessary.

You're giving good info once you click on an item, like Average/Max/Min pricing. I'd bring that onto the front page beside the grade. If you can cut down on a click, you should.

I didn't try to upload a card, but I think you're going to run into some of the same problems I've mentioned above with wasted space. It would layout better either to the right or left of the graph.

You're currently showing the grading results in alpha order. I'd show them in popularity order like PSA then BGS, etc. That's a personal preference though.

Variety is not nothing and will greatly skew your results. For instance, a 1994 SP Die Cut Marshall Faulk or an Autographed card really aren't the same as the base card.

There are definitely dupes in the database. Check out 1986 Panini Tyson PSA 9.

All in all, I'm really impressed with what you have so far. I'm guessing you're a dev of some sort. If you start making money with this, I'd highly recommend you work with a good UI guy. It won't be that expensive, and the rewards will be massive. You have a great engine, but you have less than 2 seconds to get someone to decide if they like your site or not. That is 100% based on how it looks not how it functions. When I bring on new devs, that's probably the #1 thing we talk about.

Anyway, good luck with your site. I really like where you're heading.

123Slider

Decent start. Some of the cards I went to look up were not listed and I know they have had sales recently.

How up to date is the data?

stown

I encourage healthy competition because the consumer typically benefits the most.

Good luck!

Archaninator

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jeff8877

Hi Jeff,

Glad to see your back at this...

Couple ideas...

Throw out the high and low sale and calculate a second avg with these...

Plot the average on the graph...allows you to see trend...

When you see results for a card by grade you should be able to click on header and sort results by date,value etc..

Jeff

conor912

Yes, I think someone else said it best, if you can cut out clicks, then do it. I feel like you have four pages to get a specific card in a specific grade and each page is 75% empty. I want as much "top line" info as I can get right away with ability to narrow in further of I want.

I also agree with throwing out the lowest and highest sale prices. I have seen listing typos get pulled into the VCP database and completely screw up the averages and charts.

And I'm not just saying this because I don't want to pay, but I do think there is validity to the "give it away and make your money on ads" argument. To compete, you can't have the same model.

Maurice

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<< <i>Why do you have a Sloate auction icon on your homepage? Barry has not had an auction in more then 3 years now. >>



The Sloate icon is still on there because this project has been ongoing for nearly four years now. A simple cosmetic issue really. >>



A simple cosmetic issue? I don't believe you ever had permission from Sloate or any of those other auction companies to put their company logos on your site.

gstarling

<< <i>Why do you have a Sloate auction icon on your homepage? Barry has not had an auction in more then 3 years now. >>



<< <i>The Sloate icon is still on there because this project has been ongoing for nearly four years now. A simple cosmetic issue really. >>



<< <i>A simple cosmetic issue? I don't believe you ever had permission from Sloate or any of those other auction companies to put their company logos on your site. >>


It's highly doubtful he would have to. There isn't a confusion issue here which is the basis for trademark infringement.

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This is no different than if you're covered in a newspaper using their logo along with the words they used to describe you.

That being said, it's often a "nice thing" to do, but very rarely required.

Maurice

It is a matter of confusion in that by placing those auction company logos on his website, it suggests to potential members that those auction companies are endorsing this website. And I don't believe any of them are.

BobbyVCP

The reason I brought it us is because he stole the image from us. It is the exact same lineup
of auction houses we covered and all the icons are in the exact same order as we had about
a year ago. You can look on our HP and his and still see the exact same 7 top images. The only
difference is we have changed some of ours to stay up to date. For example Legacy is now Greg
Bussineau, etc...Che was a VCP member for 2 years and wish him the best but would be nice
if he creates his own images and not steal from us.

Maurice

I think he stole the background image from the old GAI website.

mattinglymint23

I'd love to see ability to have more than one collection for tracking purposes and ability to download prices into spreadsheet even if on limited basis. Whichever vendor provides that will get my business - assuming data engine is sound.

gstarling

<< <i>Che was a VCP member for 2 years and wish him the best but would be nice if he creates his own images and not steal from us. >>


Totally see your point. It's one thing to plug an image in as a placeholder while you're testing internally. It's another thing entirely to not convert those to your own images once you start showing things to the public. Definitely not cool.

swartz1

If the site had significant downtime or was not accessible...

would you just tell them to cancel their subscription?

miwlvrn

Seems very incomplete at first search. I keep accurate records of my ebay sales of graded cards and looking back over the years claimed to be in the sample size, only a small minority of mine were included in the listings on the slabbed cards prices site. I haven't yet taken the time to search my purchases for confirmation of listing content.

blee1

I signed up, never recieved an email. Also it's not in my spam folder......

Cakes

<< <i>I really like the idea. From a UI/UX point of view, I have a few suggestions:

Think about what's the #1 thing you want someone to do when they visit your homepage and make it VERY easy for them to do that. If it's signup, I'd recommend a huge signup button. This is how your revolving card images work, but it isn't in any way obvious. You also are giving up real estate for no reason to the right. Shrinking the top banner is probably a good idea. If you're testing last login from IP, fine, but the truth is users don't care.

You're losing tons of real estate on every category page by putting in the image of the sport. It's really unnecessary.

You're giving good info once you click on an item, like Average/Max/Min pricing. I'd bring that onto the front page beside the grade. If you can cut down on a click, you should.

I didn't try to upload a card, but I think you're going to run into some of the same problems I've mentioned above with wasted space. It would layout better either to the right or left of the graph.

You're currently showing the grading results in alpha order. I'd show them in popularity order like PSA then BGS, etc. That's a personal preference though.

Variety is not nothing and will greatly skew your results. For instance, a 1994 SP Die Cut Marshall Faulk or an Autographed card really aren't the same as the base card.

There are definitely dupes in the database. Check out 1986 Panini Tyson PSA 9.

All in all, I'm really impressed with what you have so far. I'm guessing you're a dev of some sort. If you start making money with this, I'd highly recommend you work with a good UI guy. It won't be that expensive, and the rewards will be massive. You have a great engine, but you have less than 2 seconds to get someone to decide if they like your site or not. That is 100% based on how it looks not how it functions. When I bring on new devs, that's probably the #1 thing we talk about.

Anyway, good luck with your site. I really like where you're heading. >>




Very nice advice, well done chap.

stown

<< <i>The reason I brought it us is because he stole the image from us. It is the exact same lineup
of auction houses we covered and all the icons are in the exact same order as we had about
a year ago. You can look on our HP and his and still see the exact same 7 top images. The only
difference is we have changed some of ours to stay up to date. For example Legacy is now Greg
Bussineau, etc...Che was a VCP member for 2 years and wish him the best but would be nice
if he creates his own images and not steal from us. >>



So are you saying when VCP first went live, every image (excluding your originals, of course) posted had express written consent to be used on your site? You dotted every i and crossed every t prior to launch, and didn't 'steal' even one image? If so, major props for identifying and resolving every single potential copyright infringement prior to having a second of experience. If not, something about stones and glass houses.

Perhaps I'm misreading your 'tone' and you're honestly offering constructive criticism. I sincerely apologize if that is the case and promise my intent is *not* to bash VCP / Bobby.

On a related note and to reiterate, when there's only one show in town, customer service is secondary at best. As swartz1 mentioned, complaints get the "sit down and shut up, or cancel your prepaid subscription without a refund" treatment. Most will accept this ultimatum because there are no other options and something is better than nothing. Some business Owners encourage competition because it keeps them on their toes, which makes their product better. Others will do their best to stifle it and continue to enjoy the financial benefits of a sub-par product.

I wish che or anyone else the best of luck venturing into a market that has minimal, if any at all, competition.

For full disclosure, don't think I've ever crossed paths with che prior to this thread and I'm not a VCP subscriber. The only horse I have in this race is the net result for us collectors.

/rant

BobbyVCP

All honestly I want him to be here because it shows that doing what we do is not a simple thing by any means
and takes a lot of hard work to come up with a viable product. Best thing for us is to have a competition and
let you the collector choose which product they deem the best to fit their needs.