1986 Panini Supersport Boxes from Cyprus be careful....

Dpeck100

1986 Panini




This is the seller that I got a number of cards from and purchased a sealed box too. It seamed strange to me that he kept having lots of stars in singles for sale and it is because he is searching the boxes.

I just opened a box that originated from him and it was a total disaster. There was not one star card and only a few of the semi star tennis players.

No Tyson, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdual Jabar, Drazen P, Carl Lewis, none.

I noticed a coalition on the Tyson packs last time and I am sure he has too.

I have also heard from several people that he is doing off EBAY deals and not shipping the boxes and tying up large amounts of money and forcing PayPal disputes.

I just flushed $625 down the toilet but there are worse things in life.

Do not buy from this seller anymore!!!!

Toro

I don't understand why a seller would search his own material with his business and price at which they are at. Back in the 80's I can see that happening but with today's immediate communication and results(box breaks,rants,etc.) it's not worth damaging your business reputation. The guy had the potential to be an overseas contact for many of us 30/40 somethings to attain a Tyson RC. To top it off, he tries to get over on good ole DPeck from the CU boards! The price looked tempting too! Thanks for sharing your experience.

Dpeck100

You have read my post wrong.

I have purchased a number of items from this seller. Many board members have asked me if this seller was good and I said yes as I had a number of positive experiences.

In the past 12 weeks he has had these EBAY listings up and offering to sell 5 to 10 boxes at a time.

I know several people who have paid him and never got the product. Anywhere from $3,000 to $6,000 tied up in PayPal claims. Outright fraud.

I purchased this box from someone else who owned it and bought it from him in the past year.

This guy realized early on which cards from the packs brought big money in the US and found them and sold them raw at the same time selling boxes.

These packs are see through so you can see the top and bottom sticker easily.

BaseballThugs

Claiming something is fake/false, from a wrestling card fan just doesn't jive. One word reply requested from the OP: Wrestling: Fake/Real ? Yes/No

miconelegacy

I have purchased 4 of these boxes, and busted 2 of them. I have one left, and am concerned it is bogus too. They were good about a year ago, but seems that since the Tyson craze kicked in there is a something funny going on. Your supposed to get 2 per box, and I've heard of 3. But never 0. That just sucks.

Dpeck100

BT I was chasing more of these.

BaseballThugs

<< <i>I have purchased 4 of these boxes, and busted 2 of them. I have one left, and am concerned it is bogus too. They were good about a year ago, but seems that since the Tyson craze kicked in there is a something funny going on. Your supposed to get 2 per box, and I've heard of 3. But never 0. That just sucks. >>





? Your boxes were good about a year ago ? and since you owned them, have become ungood ? Or are you saying you purchased 4 good boxes a year ago, and were good, but since the time you purchased those boxes, other boxes became ungood. Just gotta ask. legit question ?

BaseballThugs

<< <i>Claiming something is fake/false, from a wrestling card fan just doesn't jive. One word reply requested from the OP: Wrestling: Fake/Real ? Yes/No >>




They simply cant man up and admit it. It is disturbing such big men can't do it.

Dpeck100

When this seller first introduced these stickers to the US he was getting $80 for a Tyson. He has gotten $500 for raw Tyson's.

If you do not think that is reason enough to look for the good cards fine. Both packs I opened in my first box with Tyson were the same pack all six stickers.

Other major stars were the same.

So I have a large number of sealed packs. If I am going to turn into a scam artist and not send buyers merchandise and force them to use PayPal dispute to get their money back why would I not search the packs and see if I could find the better money cards and sell them raw and then sell boxes of some of the rest of the packs?

miconelegacy

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<< <i>I have purchased 4 of these boxes, and busted 2 of them. I have one left, and am concerned it is bogus too. They were good about a year ago, but seems that since the Tyson craze kicked in there is a something funny going on. Your supposed to get 2 per box, and I've heard of 3. But never 0. That just sucks. >>





? Your boxes were good about a year ago ? and since you owned them, have become ungood ? Or are you saying you purchased 4 good boxes a year ago, and were good, but since the time you purchased those boxes, other boxes became ungood. Just gotta ask. legit question ? >>



I have purchased them over the last almost 2 years. The two I opened had two Tyson's in them, now with Dpeck saying that his was no good, the more recent one I had bought I have concerns with if indeed he is searching them.

Goomba78

I bought 2 boxes from this seller around this time last year and I got a couple Bird, Magic & DrJ cards but zero Tyson. I would recommend staying away

CW

<< <i>Claiming something is fake/false, from a wrestling card fan just doesn't jive. One word reply requested from the OP: Wrestling: Fake/Real ? Yes/No >>



I'm not the OP, but I used to be a casual wrestling fan years ago. It's pretty obvious that wrestling is "fake", but it is entertainment. Similar to watching a movie with a "fake" story, or reading a fictional book, sometimes we suspend disbelief and just go along for the ride to have fun. I'm not sure why a wrestling fan all of a sudden loses his ability to question an obvious scammer.

DPeck is doing the community a service by alerting us to these possible scams, and you're questioning his credibility because he happens to like wrestling? Wow.

wrestlingcardking

well said CW

RipublicaninMass

YogiBerraFan

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

eagles33

I think the trolls are hilarious. I picture a complete loser sitting in his parents basement. With nothing better to do in real life than waste people's time on a hoby message board. Cut them some slack. They prob sucked at sports and never had any luck with girls. They can't fit in in society so they get their jollies on a message board. Let them be. Their life is prob pathetic so it's mean to make fun of them or call them out

miklia

Thanks for the great info on this DPeck. In the interest of community awareness and to either end this guy for good or see if he or others actually have legit product in the future, perhaps the sequence could be shared as it is on these boards with the 86 Jordan in Fleer packs? I also have four boxes bought from the guy earlier this year that I'd like to keep, but I'll rip if they're no good.

Dpeck100

Your boxes might be good, they might be bad.

The bigger problem is selling a large number of boxes and not sending them and tying up someone's money for six weeks or more.

There are three people that I am aware of that have tried purchasing a large number of boxes and then he gave them the same song and dance and finally PayPal was brought in and two are still working on getting their funds back.

I have a bigger problem with this as this is not a debatable topic.

I personally think you could easily search these boxes if you really tried especially if you were sitting on a hoard like this seller was.

It would be extremely easy to simply line up the sticker packets and no one could tell which box they came from.

You could easily write down the top stickers from each pack you got and once you nailed the Mike Tyson pack which in both cases when I opened one was the fourth sticker in and the same exact pack twice you could open those and if you got a few wrong no big deal, if you found them you sell them raw and just grab a few packs from another box and then you sell it for $600+ and you win.

I did not think to write down any sequencing but as witnessed on this board with 86 Fleer and Topps Rack Packs etc. others have so it is not a novel idea.

I do not think attempting to search these boxes is not a far fetched idea whatsoever. There was a long period where he was selling groups of packs in 5, 10 and 20 increments. I only know one person who bought some of those and of course nothing in them.

Either way this thread was only started to send out a warning as my ability to give this seller a positive recommendation is no longer.

BaseballThugs

There seems to be ZERO tolerance for anyone trying to talk like out on a golf course with buddies here is there. Yeah, I do think wrestling is lame. It's a community board. I meant no offense other than ripping on something I don't like. I promise to be more soothing on a message board. I can see how the written word has more chance at offending than speaking it next to someone, in a FRIGGIN JOOKING MANNER. Best of luck with your 'uh hummm, wrestling stuff'. DPECK did the proper thing and totally ignored my jestfull comments. Ac couple of you others seemed to FREAK. sorry guys.

swartz1

How are these boxes being searched???

I am not familiar with the product...

please elaborate...

Dpeck100

In the first box I opened I got a numerous amount of packs that were the same six stickers throughout.

Simply write down the sequence of the packs you open and you will find the trend.

Hold the sticker packets up to a bright light and see who is on top.

If you see the sticker that coincides with the stickers you are looking for open it.

I can't say for sure if it works every time but I know for fact it will work many times and if you have a hoard of the stuff it is well worth the effort if that is how you want to do business.

wrestlingcardking

Thugs, read the Hulk Hogan thread from a few years ago if you have a few hours of spare time and see that the anti-wrestling mob left years ago...........

BaseballThugs

Yeah brother, I'll read a 'Hulk Hogan thread', and worse, go search for it. Will be on top of that quickly, before 1987 for sure. You guys are also into Harry Poitter. Next year the Harry Potter Wrestling Mania movie is coming out. Bieber is in it.






(oh man that cracked me up what I said, now beat me to a pulp because of my opinion)

wrestlingcardking

I shouldn't respond to your silly posts but I am willing to bet I could make you tap out.....or better yet choke you out.... just sayin'

Big80s

Buyers beware. This seller is listing boxes and raw '86 Tyson singles again on eBay.

Dpeck100

Cyprus News

The party is over in Cyprus.

This seller was smart to unload so much of his merchandise. His EBAY ID has changed and his sales have slowed dramatically.

kingnascar

<< <i>I'm not the OP, but I used to be a casual wrestling fan years ago. It's pretty obvious that wrestling is "fake", but it is entertainment. Similar to watching a movie with a "fake" story, or reading a fictional book, sometimes we suspend disbelief and just go along for the ride to have fun. I'm not sure why a wrestling fan all of a sudden loses his ability to question an obvious scammer.

DPeck is doing the community a service by alerting us to these possible scams, and you're questioning his credibility because he happens to like wrestling? Wow. >>

miklia

capital flight from Cyprus (or more draconian controls) might get nasty. The Cypriots live in interesting times.

Downtown1974

Scary stuff in Cyprus. What will the seller do with the proceeds from his inventory sales? Store it in his mattress?

Dpeck100

I really meant he was smart to sell so much inventory in the US and the UK and turn stickers that were most likely sitting in some form of storage into cash when he could.

This situation is going to most likely crush the Cyprus economy and I have to assume that it will be harder to do international business for the people of Cyprus.

I could see certain business's being unwilling to do business with Cyprus as the political risk is so high and this event proves that.

A company like EBAY through it's PayPal unit could for example simply decide to no longer do business there. I am not sure how likely that is but it wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened and if so someone in his position would be instantly shut down.

MULLINS5

It's easier to search Panini packs than it is for Nev to google that love you've been talking with for the past two years.

vladguerrero

I have an email out to Michalis Sarris Minister Of Finance seeking comment if the recent financial crisis will have a continued impact on this Ebay sellers sales.


Interesting economy related article

mlbfan2

<< <i>It's easier to search Panini packs than it is for Nev to google that love you've been talking with for the past two years. >>



Cardfishing is rampant these days.