Have cards in Greg Busineau's auction and anxious to see how it ends up
PSARich
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For the first time I have submitted some cards to a telephone / online auction firm to sell...Greg Busineau's Sports Rarities. I am really interested in the outcome mostly because I have always had a hard time determining if it is better to sell on eBay where there is no buyers fee or with a reputable auction firm with a buyer's fee (in this case 20%). With eBay, I as the seller pay the eBay fees and Paypal fees. With Sports Rarities I am paying no fees. Would I do better on eBay which is buyer friendly compared to the auction house with the buyer fee...or will the buyers that buy through major auctions not concern themselves with the buyer's fee as much as I think they might? Now, to be sure, many of the cards I sell would not be accepted by an auction firm, but in this case I have submitted some sweet cards to "Greg Busineau's Sports Rarities":
1964 Cubs Team Card PSA 10 1/1
1968 Gaylord Perry PSA 10 1/5
1968 Mike Marshall RC PSA 10 1/3
1969 Curt Flood O-Pee-Chee Deckle Edge PSA 10 1/1
I am interested in the thoughts of Board members who have had experience selling their cards via eBay and also with a reputable auction firm.
1964 Cubs Team Card PSA 10 1/1
1968 Gaylord Perry PSA 10 1/5
1968 Mike Marshall RC PSA 10 1/3
1969 Curt Flood O-Pee-Chee Deckle Edge PSA 10 1/1
I am interested in the thoughts of Board members who have had experience selling their cards via eBay and also with a reputable auction firm.
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I think top cards might do better at a big auction house like 10k and up items. Buyers feel better buying for a legit company with that type of money on the line.
<< <i>I think they distract you with saying you have no fees(-12%ebay fees in most cases) to stick a 20% fee on you via buyers premium.
I think top cards might do better at a big auction house like 10k and up items. Buyers feel better buying for a legit company with that type of money on the line. >>
When you add up the FVF, PP Fee, shipping cost and time, eBay isn't all that much cheaper than auction houses. The benefit of Sports Rarities is they publish a nice catalog to feature your items as opposed to having it buried amongst hundreds of thousands of other sportscard auctions. Having said that, I think auction houses are hit or miss...but then so is eBay. I've found some good deals through auction houses but I've also seen stuff go for much more than eBay.
For a average joe guy thats about 12-14 hours of manual labor or about 1 1/2 days work just listing a single card of this value.
Its hit or mis on both so its just how much you value your time I guess.
bobbyw8469: Your point is well taken. It was not my intention to promote the cards I have in Busineau's auction to induce bids but rather so readers could evaluate the sales when the auction is completed in terms of addressing the discussion issue I was trying to pomote... "is it better to sell on eBay or consign your cards to an auction house". Next time to the BST forum.
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<< <i>PSARich. I have been told by some "reputable" board members that any time that you are promoting your cards, whether they be on Ebay, Greg Businneau, Clean Sweep, et al, then the thread really needs to be on the BST thread. Just a reminder.... >>
Spoke with the reputable members you speak of and they said this thread
was fine here and good luck with sales!
Needs'
1972 Football-9's high#'s
1965 Football-8's
1958 Topps FB-7-8
<< <i>Spoke with the reputable members you speak of and they said this thread >>
Yep...double standards and hypocrisy abound. Wouldn't expect any less from the board.....
we all need to let the mods decide what we can discuss here, i guess. if they felt it was inappropriate or if someone was abusing the privilege of using this forum, then they'd act accordingly.
the passion of this hobby includes businesspeople, collectors, flippers, hustlers, niche dealers, whatever......we're all here. let's discuss some stuff and quit picking on good card people. jmo.
<< <i>i don't see this as being any different than other guys discussing their activities with Probstein, PWCC, or you, or me, if they thought it would make for a good way to share information and experience.
we all need to let the mods decide what we can discuss here, i guess. if they felt it was inappropriate or if someone was abusing the privilege of using this forum, then they'd act accordingly.
the passion of this hobby includes businesspeople, collectors, flippers, hustlers, niche dealers, whatever......we're all here. let's discuss some stuff and quit picking on good card people. jmo. >>
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I'm pretty new to this forum, and seeing these semi-BST posts doesn't bother me, but it goes at least in part against the idea of separate forums.
Second, personally, I have my eye on some beautiful graded HOF rookies coming up in Greg's auction. I will figure in 20% plus higher shipping charges when I make my final bids. So, in my opinion you are giving up about 7% over selling on Ebay.
<< <i>I have submitted some sweet cards to "Greg Busineau's Sports Rarities":
1964 Cubs Team Card PSA 10 1/1
1968 Gaylord Perry PSA 10 1/5
1968 Mike Marshall RC PSA 10 1/3
1969 Curt Flood O-Pee-Chee Deckle Edge PSA 10 1/1 >>
Lot #719: 1964 Topps #237 Cubs Team PSA GEM MT 10
Final Bid(Includes Buyers Premium):$2,670
Lot #763: 1968 Topps #85 Gaylord Perry PSA GEM MT 10
Final Bid(Includes Buyers Premium): $270
Lot #766: 1968 Topps #201 Mike Marshall PSA GEM MT 10
Final Bid(Includes Buyers Premium): $330
Lot #769: 1969 O-Pee-Chee Deckle Edge Curt Flood PSA GEM MT 10
Final Bid(Includes Buyers Premium): $120
Congrats PSARich on the Cubs Team card.
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<< <i>I have submitted some sweet cards to "Greg Busineau's Sports Rarities":
1964 Cubs Team Card PSA 10 1/1
1968 Gaylord Perry PSA 10 1/5
1968 Mike Marshall RC PSA 10 1/3
1969 Curt Flood O-Pee-Chee Deckle Edge PSA 10 1/1 >>
Lot #719: 1964 Topps #237 Cubs Team PSA GEM MT 10
Final Bid(Includes Buyers Premium):$2,670
Lot #763: 1968 Topps #85 Gaylord Perry PSA GEM MT 10
Final Bid(Includes Buyers Premium): $270
Lot #766: 1968 Topps #201 Mike Marshall PSA GEM MT 10
Final Bid(Includes Buyers Premium): $330
Lot #769: 1969 O-Pee-Chee Deckle Edge Curt Flood PSA GEM MT 10
Final Bid(Includes Buyers Premium): $120
Congrats PSARich on the Cubs Team card. >>
Nice to cee the results,thanks DuDe!
Needs'
1972 Football-9's high#'s
1965 Football-8's
1958 Topps FB-7-8
I talked with two other auction house representatives at this year's National in Baltimore just so I could better understand the process, the fees, etc. I specifically mentioned the 1964 Cubs team card PSA 10 1/1 to see if they were interested and they were. They said it should bring $1000-$1200 at auction. I was impressed with all those I talked with and I believe that one was mentioned in your post. I went with Busineau basically because he got back to me and the others did not. I received a nice letter with generous terms, plus he lives about 150 miles north of me so I figured I would try it out.
I couldn't really tell you if I would have done better on eBay with the Cubs cards but I really can't imagine that I would have. As for the other three cards, I doubt if there would be a whole lot of difference in sales as they sold for about what I thought they would.
I would be interested in your opinion because I have no experience with any other auction house. I can say I was impressed with Greg Busineau's catelog and all the communication he has provided me. Please send me a PM if you don't want to put your opinion on the message board.