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Help!! "floating" card has moved up and won't come down!! UPDATE - Card is FREE and obvi

I was hoping someone had some prior experience with this and could offer some sound advice for my problem. I recently bought a Dick Butkus card for my Dick Butkus master set. The sticker/card is one of those that "floats" in the case, as PSA doesn't have a case to fit it precisely. This is the card...

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Well, long story short, the card has shifted during shipping, and has now moved up really high in the case - so high that I can't get it back down. I have tried jarring the case, tapping it on a desk, even hitting the slab with a rubber mallet. The card won't budge. Any idea on how to get it down, without sending it back to PSA would be greatly appreciated!

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  • Here I am thinking you had some David Blaine/Criss Angel crap going on with your cards...

    In all seriousness I had the same issue with a wiffle ball disc in an old slab. Disc moved up and wedged. Tried smacking it on the desk, the rubber mallet, nothing worked. Ended up sitting the slab straight up in the space between my top load washer door and top. Ran a wash and the vibration from the spin cycle jarred the disc free. Sounds funny but it worked.

    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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  • You can tap/bang on the bottom of the holder and it will eventually come down. The key is to hold the holder loosely. If you hold it tight, it won't move.

    You may also want to try tapping/banging the right side of the holder. It looks like it is also stuck on the left.

    Go back and forth with the bottom and right sides. When you do get it to move, it might get stuck in a different place and you need to start over. The reason this happens is because the cardstock is too thin.

    I've done this with hundreds of cards and fixed all of them. One or two were damaged though. Not damaged from the tapping/banging but from being wedged in there too long. There would be an indent in the card from the rails of the holders.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Once again Maurice with some good information.

    This sounds like a frustrating situation Bobby so good luck.

  • Bobby, let us know what happens to your Dick. Follow Maurice's advice and wiggle it around so it should eventually straighten out.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    i'm certain he can handle it, but it's gonna be hard.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    This one seems to be stuck pretty good.....
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    Open the slab, reposition the card and then reseal the slab. image
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  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    you can do it!
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    nope...its stuck....
  • goraidersgoraiders Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭

    Try a lil WD_40image
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  • ChiefsFan1stChiefsFan1st Posts: 845 ✭✭✭
    This sounds like an awful predicktamint to find your card in! I dont have the answer but survey says PUNT!
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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    Bottom line.....I am gonna have to send it back to PSA....I don't understand why I have to pay $20 return shipping for a poorly designed case. I didn't ask for this card to get stuck.....
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    When you send it back, ask them to center it in the case and then pull the backing off the sticker... problem solved; it'll never shift in the slab again! image
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  • PSASAPPSASAP Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭
    If your Dick doesn't come down after 4 hours, please consult your physician. image
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    Nothing has worked so far....any more suggestions? It appears to be jammed at the top.


  • << <i>The key is to hold the holder loosely. If you hold it tight, it won't move. >>


  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    I've got that....I am barely holding the case - just guiding it by the sides and jarring it against the counter.

    When I do the sides, his legs shift from side to side....but there is no getting his head down. His head is past that line/border at the top. It has a good hold on it.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Hmm, is the top of that sticker getting pinched by the holder at the top? Looks like it from the scan.
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  • You really can't put any pressure on the case. Even the edges.

    Try holding it loosely at the flip with your thumb on the front and your index finger on the back. And then bang a bottom corner against a thick rug. You won't crack or frost the case. Go back and forth with banging the bottom corners until you see some movement.


  • << <i>When I do the sides, his legs shift from side to side....but there is no getting his head down. His head is past that line/border at the top. It has a good hold on it. >>



    You're on the right track with the legs shifting. Keep going. Back and forth. Again, don't put pressure on the case. The head will come down.
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    HAD to semd this one back. nothing worked and I ended up cracking the case on the corner


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  • Hold it loosely from the bottom. Bang it on the counter but don't strike the counter in a straight down motion. Move the card in a 3, 6, 9 o'clock motion. Hopefully that makes sense. It has always worked for me.
  • Bobby, I really hope this works out and um your Dick loosens...

    but in all honesty this has been hands down the best thread to read out loud in a long time...
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭


    << <i>i'm certain he can handle it, but it's gonna be hard. >>




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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    Well....I have succeeded only in 'walking the dog'. I got the card to move from left to right. Now if I can only get that top bar to actually "release" the grip it has on his head, that would be SUPER!!!! I will keep everyone updated, and pray tell this doesn't happen to you!

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  • mccardguy1mccardguy1 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Well....I have succeeded only in 'walking the dog'. I got the card to move from left to right. Now if I can only get that top bar to actually "release" the grip it has on his head, that would be SUPER!!!! I will keep everyone updated, and pray tell this doesn't happen to you!

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    I will be sitting by my computer all day waiting for an update!!
    I am on a budget and I am not afraid to use it!!
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    I think we all know the end result of this exercise... No matter what, the card is not longer GEM MINT and is no longer worth $80.00, but more like $20.00.

    If it releases from the precarious pinching position, it will have damage and isn't really a PSA 10 anymore. Bobby won't be happy and we'll get a "What Does PSA Do?" thread.

    If it stay pinched, Bobby has to pay to ship it back to PSA for them to fix it or him and it will probably not be reholdered in a PSA 10. The we get a different "What Does PSA Do?" thread.

    Either way, PSA is to blame... And Bobby is again the victim. And we get to wade through all of the drama.

    Isn't it interesting why some people have all the luck and some people get the poop end of the stick . . . is it karma or just one's outlook on life?
  • The one thing I can tell from the scan is that is not a Milton Bradley Nolan Ryan rookie. Now that we cleared that up I can go back to not caring what happens.
    Carry on!
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    UPDATE - the card is now FREE. It is no longer a '10'. it is obviously pinched at the top. And otwcards is correct. I am sure somehow I am to be blamed for the card working it's way up to the top. I am indeed the victim, and I now have a '9' that I paid $20 for that looks better than my '10' that I paid $70 for. Somehow, I am supposed to suck it up, and I am sure that I am going to be torched....how on earth can I own a PSA '10' that doesn't look like a '10'. Let the troll games begin......scan to come later.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    remember kids: always wear a helmet.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>UPDATE - the card is now FREE. It is no longer a '10'. it is obviously pinched at the top. And otwcards is correct. I am sure somehow I am to be blamed for the card working it's way up to the top. I am indeed the victim, and I now have a '9' that I paid $20 for that looks better than my '10' that I paid $70 for. Somehow, I am supposed to suck it up, and I am sure that I am going to be torched....how on earth can I own a PSA '10' that doesn't look like a '10'. Let the troll games begin......scan to come later. >>



    Bobby - I did not say it was your fault. It is unfortunate, but it is something that happens. But you were PLAYING the victim from jump-street, as you always do. A role that has, in my humble opinion, become tiresome.

    Life is a series of struggles and successes. It is what we make of it. Most people understand that. My simple point is that you are a poster that seems to relish in gloating about your successes and whining about your struggles and virtually everything you post is some sort of drama that is unimportant and inconsequential to most others. Were it an occasional occurrence, most wouldn't care as we all have those moments. However, you seem to have them at an alarmingly consistent rate. Karma?


    edited to correct glaring spelling error... (thanks Marc)
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    please post a pic of the freed dick...


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  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>please post a pic of the freed dick... >>



    Someone was able to Free Willy!!!

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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    wow. he even had that Suzy-come-hither look back then.
  • suzie come hither.. bwahahahahahaha too funny. When I saw that segment I could not believe it. Joe was Sooooooooo wasted.


  • << <i>I think we all know the end result of this exercise... No matter what, the card is not longer GEM MINT and is no longer worth $80.00, but more like $20.00.

    If it releases from the precarious pinching position, it will have damage and isn't really a PSA 10 anymore. Bobby won't be happy and we'll get a "What Does PSA Do?" thread.

    If it stay pinched, Bobby has to pay to ship it back to PSA for them to fix it or him and it will probably not be reholdered in a PSA 10. The we get a different "What Does PSA Do?" thread.

    Either way, PSA is to blame... And Bobby is again the victim. And we get to wade through all of the drama.

    Isn't it interesting why some people have all the luck and some people get the poop end of the stick . . . is it karma or just one's outlook on life? >>



    What a sad story!


  • << <i>UPDATE - Card is FREE and obviously damaged. >>



    No pic to show the obvious damage?
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Never did like that type of holder. Back in the day we called it the condom.

    I guess that fits huh?
    Good for you.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    My advice would be to start a thread that will somehow inevitably blow up in your face.
  • I always tell people that I have a 10. My wife scoffs and says maybe a 6 on a good day.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What did you do!!!!????
    WHY did you force the card to be in the center??
    WHY???
    JK
    good luck with your new adventure.
    Hope all works out.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    Scan when I get home...out of town now......
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    The case probably experienced some rapid temperature extremes in transit, causing the plastic to expand and contract, allowing the sticker to slip beneath the bumper.
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  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BOB good post.
  • When this happens, it's because the cards are too thin. If someone at PSA banged the holder immediately after it was encapsulated, it would slip under the rail. The PSA holders are not designed to accommodate very thin cardstock.
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭


    << <i>When this happens, it's because the cards are too thin. If someone at PSA banged the holder immediately after it was encapsulated, it would slip under the rail. The PSA holders are not designed to accommodate very thin cardstock. >>



    I agree that the stickers are too thin for the holder; but being that the issue happened during shipment, as the auction scan demonstrates, I'm willing to bet temperature had something to do with this. The bubblemailer was shipped with the sticker upside down, causing the smallest boarder to rest against the top bumper. Minute expansion allows the thin stock enough room to slip under the bumper; the plane lands, and the plastic warms and contracts, crimping the sticker under the bumper.
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  • I'm surprised that no one has even thought or mentioned that maybe, just maybe ...the seller got the card stuck like that and he himself couldn't get it out so they figured they would sell it and the new buyer/owner would easily assume that it got stuck like that during shipping and the seller would be off the hook along with getting the card off his hands and making it someone else's problem.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    And they mailed it from the mail box behind the grassy knoll too!
    Good for you.
  • LOL, Hey, after reading some of these horror stories off ebay as of lately (buyers swapping out key cards for worst looking ones and then returning for a refund/completed sets graded by PSA and then buyers claiming they received empty boxes and keeping the cards AND getting refunded) anything is possible at this point.
  • Stop being a clown. Every little thing that goes wrong you get on here & gripe.
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