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Threshold Value™ on having a coin graded?

ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭

An earlier thread got me thinking about threashold values™ for grading raw coins. Personally, it would be unusual for me to spend more than $150 on a raw coin and I would likewise rarely consider selling a coin raw that was worth more than this same amount. What is your thinking on this topic?


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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's not about the % of value of the cost vs grading fee, but the potential value added. Includes both grade and saleability.

    64 Morgan upgrades to 65... no
    65 Morgan upgrades to 66... yes
    XF-AU $5 Lib upgrades to 61? no unless you can't tell if it's real. LOL, still scrap.

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  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It's not about the % of value of the cost vs grading fee, but the potential value added. Includes both grade and saleability.

    64 Morgan upgrades to 65... no
    65 Morgan upgrades to 66... yes
    XF-AU $5 Lib upgrades to 61? no unless you can't tell if it's real. LOL, still scrap.

    Detailed discussion does not followimage >>


    How about XF-AU $2 1/2 and $5 incuse designs upgrades to MS61-63? People tend to undergrade that series due to design.
  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think once the 350. level is crossed, most raw coins are probably best graded before being sold. There are exceptions of course, especially gold and modern PM coins.

    At about 600. (again excepting some gold and modern PM) I think it becomes more paramount.

    This isn't to say all these coins should be graded, but quite often when SELLING them, they will need to be. I personally have cracked out coins above both those thresholds, and have not had them re-graded ... yet.




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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Myself I will not buy a RAW coin online for over $100.00 and no Morgan or CBH's or any key date coin that is not slabbed because of the number of counterfeited coins flooding the market.
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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I consider coins worth more than $150 raw to be worth the PCGS grading fees. Any coin worth more than $300 should be TPG graded. JMHO
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    As pursuitofliberty mentioned, precious metals and many moderns sort of change this equation. Clearly gold coins in ANY condition are going to be worth a substantial amount regardless their numismatic value. And some moderns might be valuable, but only at some uber grade below which they become pocket change.

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It's not about the % of value of the cost vs grading fee, but the potential value added. >>


    This is absolutely true with moderns.

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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've got a lot of 1-10K coins still raw from Stacks. Not slabbed and frankly I don't care. They're real and I don't need a TPG to look at an MS63 (per JA) and stick it in a case that says AU55.
  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They're real and I don't need a TPG to look at an MS63 (per JA) and stick it in a case that says AU55. >>


    Hmm, but isn't soliciting JA's opinion just the same as asking our host to take a look at it?
    Either JA or our host's standard for that type of coin must be looser (or tighter) than it should be.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I've got a lot of 1-10K coins still raw from Stacks. Not slabbed and frankly I don't care. They're real and I don't need a TPG to look at an MS63 (per JA) and stick it in a case that says AU55. >>



    Let us know what happens when it comes time to sell and your offered XF money for them.image
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have no bottom threshold. If I want it in a holder then I put it in a holder. (Keep in mind, however, that I'm a "For Everyman" nut job and an admirer of Poor-01 coins.)
    When in doubt, don't.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Keep in mind, however, that I'm... an admirer of Poor-01 coins. >>


    Of course these coins are more admirable (and valuable) when they're in plastic. image

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  • CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with Mozin:

    << <i>I consider coins worth more than $150 raw to be worth the PCGS grading fees. Any coin worth more than $300 should be TPG graded. >>



    Having a coin slabbed makes it easier to sell, because there is less chance of the grade being disputed. Here's a real-life example. In the 1967-1975 timeframe, I bought lots of common date Walkers out of original rolls. Most of them are still raw, but if I want to maximize my profit, I'll have them slabbed. If I put them on eBay, I might get MS63 money if I don't put a reserve on them. There's a good chance that they won't sell at all. On the other hand, if they're slabbed they stand a much better chance of selling. I'll still make a profit on MS64's, even after grading and selling fees; if some of them make MS65 or better, it's definitely worthwhile.

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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I've got a lot of 1-10K coins still raw from Stacks. Not slabbed and frankly I don't care. They're real and I don't need a TPG to look at an MS63 (per JA) and stick it in a case that says AU55. >>



    If you never sell them, it doesn't matter.

    If you do sell them, you'll just need to find someone that agrees with your assessment.

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