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smiles72smiles72 Posts: 139
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I have a friend wanting to sell this, and I know nothing about gold grading.
It seems it is a higher AU, but what do I know?

Take a look and let me know what the forum thinks.

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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    I hope its real!
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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unc. details (cleaning due to hairlines).

    Does it have a 'D' mintmark?
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  • smiles72smiles72 Posts: 139
    I dont see a D on the scan.
    I think it is Philly.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like an AU55 or possibily an AU58. Doesn't appear cleaned other than possibily a dip. The Indian $2 1/2 and $5 gold coin both have incused designs so there is no rim to protect the fields from hairlines on even lightly circulated coins of this type.

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  • smiles72smiles72 Posts: 139
    Another question for everyone is whether it would slab PCGS?
    Thanks for your help so far.

    JM
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,765 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Another question for everyone is whether it would slab PCGS?
    Thanks for your help so far.

    JM >>


    I've seen similar coins of this type graded AU55 or AU58 in both PCGS and NGC slabs.

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like an AU61. Stuff that looks like this shows up in both AU and MS holders. What's all over the feathers on the headdress?
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    These are tough coins to grade even when you have them in-hand, in my experience.

    That said, and going only from the photos, I agree -- looks mid to high AU.
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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU details, cleaned !!!
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,582 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm going with 'not cleaned.'

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Low end of AU58 and could luck into a 61/62. There's not much difference in those 3 grades.
    That said, nearly every dealer who looks at this would only want to pay AU55/58 money to ensure they are safe.
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  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭✭
    Not cleaned IMO but it's hard to gauge the luster on the coin with those photos which is essential to grading this series in differentiating between AU and UNC.
  • RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Another question for everyone is whether it would slab PCGS?
    Thanks for your help so far.

    JM >>


    I've seen similar coins of this type graded AU55 or AU58 in both PCGS and NGC slabs. >>



    Yes, so have I.

    As for cleaning...........If I was forced to decide based on these images alone, I'd say it has not been cleaned OR if it has, then a LOT of the AU slabbed Indians I've seen were too. You have to remember that with the incuse design and the nature of gold as a soft metal, the $2.50 & $5 Indians are prone to show contact. These hairlines look too random and inconsistent to me to have resulted from cleaning. I'm not an expert in this series or claiming to be, but, I have owned several slabbed examples over the years in AU+ and this coin does not look unusual to me.

    For your friend to get his best result, if it were me I'd send it to our hosts to be graded. With all of the counterfeits out there, it would make it more marketable. Looks like a nice piece!
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,765 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Another question for everyone is whether it would slab PCGS?
    Thanks for your help so far.

    JM >>


    I've seen similar coins of this type graded AU55 or AU58 in both PCGS and NGC slabs. >>



    Yes, so have I.

    As for cleaning...........If I was forced to decide based on these images alone, I'd say it has not been cleaned OR if it has, then a LOT of the AU slabbed Indians I've seen were too. You have to remember that with the incuse design and the nature of gold as a soft metal, the $2.50 & $5 Indians are prone to show contact. These hairlines look too random and inconsistent to me to have resulted from cleaning. I'm not an expert in this series or claiming to be, but, I have owned several slabbed examples over the years in AU+ and this coin does not look unusual to me.

    For your friend to get his best result, if it were me I'd send it to our hosts to be graded. With all of the counterfeits out there, it would make it more marketable. Looks like a nice piece! >>



    Looks dipped which wouldn't preclude PCGS or NGC from slabbing it. Agree that getting it slabbed would make sense before you buy it.

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I dont see a D on the scan.
    I think it is Philly. >>



    Make sure to take a good look with a 10x loupe or higher under a light source as it could be a weak D variety.

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