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1945 Mercury........opinions please.

SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭
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Thanks in advance.......

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  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154 ✭
    I'm not going to speculate about the grade, but Dear God, those bands look split! I think I'd seond that in. If it graded FB, you'd be looking at a big dollar coin.
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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pics aren't clear enough to offer an opinion on a grade. Certainly looks like a Full Band dime!! PCGS price guide has a 64FB example listed @ 5400. But you already knew that didn't you? image
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Bands look split, but what's going on with the 4 in the date?
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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<PCGS price guide has a 64FB example listed @ 5400>>

    All this time I thought 1940's Winged Liberty dimes were common in MS.
    Apparently 1945 dimes with FB are very uncommon.
    The OP's example appears to be FB IMO.
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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bands look 90%. Poor image but I see a bridge at center.
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  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭
    Bands look split, but what's going on with the 4 in the date?

    The date is good, just some die polish around it.........



    TextBands look 90%. Poor image but I see a bridge at center.

    It does have a small vertical hit in the center.
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eric, if there is a hit crossing the bands.....it definitely keeps it from being FB.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,522 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do you have a better pic for the FB Analysis? Wow. It sure is close! I have a FB Mint State 1945 Merc.....but it is Broadstruck. Still cool though.
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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There appears to be a small bridge from possible contact, however,great defintion, maybe they would be a tad easy on this date?. I have seen one(45-P) with a definite contact bridge get the fb designation before .
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It doesn't (or shouldn't) matter what the date is. It's either full bands or not.
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There appears to be a small bridge from possible contact, however,great defintion, maybe they would be a tad easy on this date?. I have seen one(45-P) with a definite contact bridge get the fb designation before . >>



    Your logic is 180 degrees off. The higher the premium, the more rigorously the standards are enforced.
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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
    looks FB to me but what's going on with the "4?"

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  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭

    I think the images below are way too large.....but .......it is what it is.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Based on those pics I would definitely say no bands. Sorry. JMHO.
  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice bands on that 45-P image
  • georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭
    Close...no ciggie for you!
  • noownoow Posts: 387
    Dang close... That one cursed $5000 hit over the bands.. image
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've seen a couple of slabbed 1945 Full Band coins and none really no better than this one. I wouldn't call 90% of them FB as most appear to have faint bridges on them...at least to me.
    If standards were rigorously applied, there might not be any of them in existence. Also looks to have a tic on the upper diagonal band. But I also don't see the tic rule well enforced
    either. Certainly worth a nice premium imo.
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,522 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Darn close but no.
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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,242 ✭✭✭✭✭
    dang close ... that's for sure!

    I have a really close one too, it's a P66 I bought from Ken, and I wouldn't sell it for 5x what a 66 no Band goes for ... (10x ... maybe image )

    Where is Ken anyway ... man I haven't seen him for a long time


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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    that is just brutal since it is an obvious full band strike but just had a hard contact in the wrong spot
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hahahaha!

    Only a plastic slave would buy a FB coin over that coin at 10x the price. If it's in a non FB holder, it's a keeper. As a FB, I just wouldn't pay up - even for a better strike
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  • georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have a really close one too, it's a P66 I bought from Ken, and I wouldn't sell it for 5x what a 66 no Band goes for ... (10x ... maybe image )

    Where is Ken anyway ... man I haven't seen him for a long time >>



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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,242 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Steelheader?

    nah ... Fairlaneman ... Ken Boardman ... anyone heard from him lately?



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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice but you already know it misses full band because of the hit on center band. image

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ken is retired and travels a lot now with his wife and does not visit here as much as he used to.

    I think he responded to the Registry forum about the good ole days.
  • coinguy1989coinguy1989 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭


    << <i>Eric, if there is a hit crossing the bands.....it definitely keeps it from being FB. >>



    Agreed. Even without the hit, I would say that it has 95% full split bands and it should be worth a premium to some collectors.
  • baddspellarbaddspellar Posts: 270 ✭✭✭
    > All this time I thought 1940's Winged Liberty dimes were common in MS.
    > Apparently 1945 dimes with FB are very uncommon.

    The premium surprised me too. I was aware of big jumps between grades.

    I wonder what the biggest jump in value for a coin that's extremely common without a special designation to the same date/mm with a special designation. Biggest I could find was a 61-D Nickel with the FS designation.
    MS64 is worth $1 without FS, $11500 with FS. MS65 is $5 without, $27500 with.

    Does anything beat that?
  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154 ✭


    << <i>> All this time I thought 1940's Winged Liberty dimes were common in MS.
    > Apparently 1945 dimes with FB are very uncommon.

    The premium surprised me too. I was aware of big jumps between grades.

    I wonder what the biggest jump in value for a coin that's extremely common without a special designation to the same date/mm with a special designation. Biggest I could find was a 61-D Nickel with the FS designation.
    MS64 is worth $1 without FS, $11500 with FS. MS65 is $5 without, $27500 with.

    Does anything beat that? >>



    Not percentage wise, but the 1953 S Franklin half in MS65 - $81.25 MS65FBL - $29,690 MS66 - $312.00 MS66FBL - $45,840. *

    The SLQ series also has some biggies:

    1916 MS67 - $43,801 MS67FH - $123,130
    1918/7 MS65 - $90,630 MS65FH - $312,500
    1927S MS66 - $16,560 MS66FH - $243,750



    *Prices by Numismedia.
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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Based on the new added pic I would say no as well.

    To respond to an earlier response to my quote, yes I would agree the higher the value the more stringent the requirement to meet the true standard,(it is or inst) but if that is the case why do some exist with he FB designation that clealry dont meet it. also confirmed by another member stating he has seen them as well.

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