Type 3 $1 Gold Piece

baseballjeff

Hello Everyone!

I was hoping we could discuss the Type 3 $1 Gold Piece. I just picked up this one for my type set and I am amazed at how tiny the date is on it. To me it looks smaller than the image in my Red Book, and it is certainly smaller than the dates of my Type 1 and 2. Is this some sort of variety? Or is this just the way it is.

I sure love these gold coins!

I hope everyone is staying safe during this crazy hurricane. Alaska is beautiful this time of the year!

Thank you everyone,
Jeff

LanceNewmanOCC

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i was commenting at the last coin show i attended how much i really do like the little $1 gold pieces
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LindeDad

Little gold with big price.

liefgold

Careful, those little gold dollars are addicting. I have been chasing them for 20+ years. Two more to complete the set.
The dates vary in size greatly from one year to the next. Some small some quite large.
Here is a neat type 3:

golden

I have been looking for one in PCGS AU 58 for over a year. There are about 10 in the Stacks Bowers sale and I do not like any of them.

ambro51

The smallest date numeral size is 1863 which shared the punch with the trime. BTW post a picture of your coin. LOTS of Counterfeits out there, believe me! 1870 had large numbers and 1863 was very small

BryceM

I started out putting together a 12-piece gold type set in AU58. I ended up finishing the set with a few coins in other grades, but they're all coins I like for different reasons. In general, the three types of $1 gold were the hardest to find in acceptable condition. This one came to me via RYK and I think it has loads of character for something so small:

Swampboy

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Sweeeet!

baseballjeff

I have an 1862 and it is tiny like that 1863. Mine looks even smaller than that 1863 as that one looks bold text.

BillJones

The size of the dates on gold dollars do vary from year to year. All four digits were added to the dies with a punch, and the size of the numbers and their placement could vary. The date on this 1854 Type II gold dollar slants down to the right. This variety is fairly common within the date. There is one variety that slants severely down to the right. It is reported to be rare.



As to date size, here is an 1861 gold dollar which has the smallest date in my small collection of these pieces. The dies are also rotated almost 180 degrees. This variety is noted in Dave Bowers' book on the subject.



This 1881 gold dollar has a much larger and readable date.

liefgold

Nice 1872 BryceM. That one was in my collection for about 20 years. RYK added the sticker. I knew it was undergraded.

rawmorgan

Here's a '74, was thinking of starting a 100 year before birth set.

SkyMan

Some sweet looking princesses here!

No pic, but I just got an 1858-S PCGS/CAC AU58 for my hundred year before birth year set.

steveben

PCGS AU55

BillJones

The 1857-C and 1859-C gold dollars were probably the poorest made of all U.S. coins. Stevebin provided us with a look at an 1859-C. Here is an 1857-C in PCGS EF-45. Frankly buying these in high grade does not make much sense to me. The high grades ones don't look any better.

PerryHall

<< <i>The 1857-C and 1859-C gold dollars were probably the poorest made of all U.S. coins. Stevebin provided us with a look at an 1859-C. Here is an 1857-C in PCGS EF-45. Frankly buying these in high grade does not make much sense to me. The high grades ones don't look any better. >>



The 1854-C (Type 2) are the worst coins produced by any US mint. In addition to the poor workmanship, the Type 2 gold dollars had a high relief which never struck up well which is why the coin was redesigned after only a couple of years.

lkeigwin

The small dates are particular to the early-mid 1860's, it appears. Were there any small dates after 1867?

Dahlonega produced some pretty miserable results too.

That's a wonderful T2 1854, Bill. As Perry said the T3 was designed for better metal flow. The middle digits of the date on the T2 were usually weakly struck. Yours looks terrific.
Lance.

Labelman87

Love all the type & date gold posted. Thanks all...






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Craig

Edit: Couldn't resist the Type 1

steveben

here's a newp 1861 i picked up last night:





man, these are hard to photograph. what do you think? do you think it will grade? it has ample cartwheel luster...but those hits in the reverse fields make me think it might get BB'd.

segoja

Just received my 1889 Back from CAC today...Green Bean and all

PCGS MS66....sorry no pics.

CharlotteDude

he 1854-C (Type 2) are the worst coins produced by any US mint. In addition to the poor workmanship, the Type 2 gold dollars had a high relief which never struck up well which is why the coin was redesigned after only a couple of years.

I believe PH is ref'ing the 1855-C (Type 2) Dollar. Charlotte didn't produce any $1 gold coins in 1854. He is right about the quality though... very few '55-C dollars can be located with a decent strike and without any planchet anomalies.

'dude