<< <i>So how did they do in the era before TPGs? Do you think most of their coins would grade? >>
Back then collectors of this level of material had knowledge and cajones!
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In the 1950s-mid 1980s, it was fairly common for southern gold dealers to offer this Capital Plastics-type holder to their clients who were working on a set of southern gold. The advent of the major grading services effectively put an end to this method of display. I agree that there is something neat (and refreshingly uncomplicated) about an old-time set in one of these holders.
<< <i>Even if the coins are sold individually, someone does have the opportunity to buy all the individual coins and maintain the set as a set.
- Ian >>
Perhaps I remember seeing this in the Stack's Floyd Starr proof set catalog (1991 or 92), but there was the concept of allowing there to be a bid to keep the set together which would be at the next increment above the total of all bids for the individual lots. If no such bid was made, the lots sold individually. I don't know how often this practice resulted in the sale of the set intact, though.
Are the coins going to be pedigreed to a specific collection when graded -- "Joe Blow Capital Charlotte Set"?
<< <i> Perhaps I remember seeing this in the Stack's Floyd Starr proof set catalog (1991 or 92), but there was the concept of allowing there to be a bid to keep the set together which would be at the next increment above the total of all bids for the individual lots. If no such bid was made, the lots sold individually. I don't know how often this practice resulted in the sale of the set intact, though.
Are the coins going to be pedigreed to a specific collection when graded -- "Joe Blow Capital Charlotte Set"? >>
We will be offering the coins individually, without the set concept - I know what you mean with offering individually and then as a set, but I never thought that was fair to the individual bidders to offer that (nor to the consignor, even though at first glance it might seem better, I don't think in reality it is).
At this stage, the set is not being pedigreed. It's still very early in the process, but after reading the comments on this board, I'm glad I didn't just start the grading process immediately without sharing the set photo.
I don't think that this (the Charlotte set holder) was ever a stock item; something made to order.
That's right.Capitol Plastics would make any kind of holder the customer might want to accomodate his or her set.Such a holder cost alot more than the typical generic holder,however,since the opening sizes could be individually specified.
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Impressive. So very impressive..................MJ
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Just to confirm my earlier post - I will have this set on display at Baltimore (table 353). The set has not been graded yet; it's intact in the holder.
I remember the name of the holder manufacturer with those metal post screws now -- "Cot-Well". Look for a CW monogram embedded into one of the holder's sides (serving the same purpose as the Capital Plastics alignment mark.)
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<< <i>So how did they do in the era before TPGs? Do you think most of their coins would grade? >>
Back then collectors of this level of material had knowledge and cajones!
Capital Holders can do for any collection, what blue boxes or slabs spread out on a table can not...properly and tastefully Display the set!
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<< <i>Even if the coins are sold individually, someone does have the opportunity to buy all the individual coins and maintain the set as a set.
- Ian >>
Perhaps I remember seeing this in the Stack's Floyd Starr proof set catalog (1991 or 92), but there was the concept of allowing there to be a bid to keep the set together which would be at the next increment above the total of all bids for the individual lots. If no such bid was made, the lots sold individually. I don't know how often this practice resulted in the sale of the set intact, though.
Are the coins going to be pedigreed to a specific collection when graded -- "Joe Blow Capital Charlotte Set"?
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Perhaps I remember seeing this in the Stack's Floyd Starr proof set catalog (1991 or 92), but there was the concept of allowing there to be a bid to keep the set together which would be at the next increment above the total of all bids for the individual lots. If no such bid was made, the lots sold individually. I don't know how often this practice resulted in the sale of the set intact, though.
Are the coins going to be pedigreed to a specific collection when graded -- "Joe Blow Capital Charlotte Set"? >>
We will be offering the coins individually, without the set concept - I know what you mean with offering individually and then as a set, but I never thought that was fair to the individual bidders to offer that (nor to the consignor, even though at first glance it might seem better, I don't think in reality it is).
At this stage, the set is not being pedigreed. It's still very early in the process, but after reading the comments on this board, I'm glad I didn't just start the grading process immediately without sharing the set photo.
- Ian
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That's right.Capitol Plastics would make any kind of holder the customer might want to accomodate his or her set.Such a holder cost alot more than the typical generic holder,however,since the opening sizes could be individually specified.
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein
What a wonderful presentation of a piece of numismatic history.
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I'll take the 1838 & 1839 $5's!!!!!
What a wonderful set
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Craig
It would be nice for this to stay intact but I understand the reasons for slabbing.
Coin's for sale/trade.
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- Ian
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- Jim
Thanks for bringing the thread back around.
Agreed. Awesome.
Mike
<< <i>A Charlotte Set in a Capital Plastics Holder - Not Often Seen >>
But I"VE seen one. If memory serves, that's the way they're displayed at the Charlotte Mint Museum. Dahlonega, too, I think.
It's been 20+ years since I went to Charlotte and 12+ since I visited Dahlonega, but that's how I remember seeing them.