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Caution, phishing scam getting more sophisticated

Normally phishing scams are pretty transparent, often written in obvious ESL with generic terms because they are computer generated to a large number of ebay sellers. Today I got one that was customized and much more sophisticated.

1. It came to my email inbox. It looked like an ebay message (so far nothing new). However, it was a question about an expensive coin ($15.000+) that I recently sold and ended the auction. The question was, "I'm still waiting for your reply. Please tell me if you sold the 2008-W PCGS PR70 DCAM $100 American Platinum Eagle First Strike. Very Difficult. or not because i want to buy it. Thank you! Phillip" I clicked on the respond button and the login screen came up. Even in my early morning haze I didn't log in. I went to my ebay inbox and the question wasn't there.

2. I clicked on ebay user ID and feedback number in the email and they are legit!!! They take me to a real ebay member and his feedback. I looked at his feedback and he looks like a casual ebay buyer who doesn't buy anything expensive or any coins. My guess is the scammer picked his profile at random and linked to it. He probably doesn't even know.

3. I typed gibberish into the logon screen that comes up when I clicked the link to answer the question. The gibberish was accepted and I was directed to the real ebay site. So if you fell for the scam, it then spits you out on the real site so you don't know you've been phished.

I suspect the linked ebay ID has no idea his ID is being used. I doubt his account has been compromised. I sent him a message through ebay crafted to try to ascertain if he is involved but highly doubt it. I quit reporting phishing to ebay years ago but may report this one. Do they still have an email ID to forward these too? wasn't it scam@ebay.com or something like that?

I haven't seen this level of sophistication before. Be careful out there. The gibberish test is always good if you think you're on a legitimate site but aren't sure. The legitimate site will say , "wrong user ID or password" the phishing site will accept the gibberish.

--Jerry

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  • Spoof@eBay.com
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    That is right. thanks.

    I just noticed that the ebay ID is similar to another ebay ID that recently bought a $1000 coin and hasn't paid. However, that buyer appears legit-has a feedback history of buying modern graded coins. I'll post here if there turns out to be a link. Right now I think it is a coincidence. --Jerry
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,615 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Normally phishing scams are pretty transparent, often written in obvious ESL with generic terms because they are computer generated to a large number of ebay sellers. Today I got one that was customized and much more sophisticated.

    1. It came to my email inbox. It looked like an ebay message (so far nothing new). However, it was a question about an expensive coin ($15.000+) that I recently sold and ended the auction. The question was, "I'm still waiting for your reply. Please tell me if you sold the 2008-W PCGS PR70 DCAM $100 American Platinum Eagle First Strike. Very Difficult. or not because i want to buy it. Thank you! Phillip" I clicked on the respond button and the login screen came up. Even in my early morning haze I didn't log in. I went to my ebay inbox and the question wasn't there.

    2. I clicked on ebay user ID and feedback number in the email and they are legit!!! They take me to a real ebay member and his feedback. I looked at his feedback and he looks like a casual ebay buyer who doesn't buy anything expensive or any coins. My guess is the scammer picked his profile at random and linked to it. He probably doesn't even know.

    3. I typed gibberish into the logon screen that comes up when I clicked the link to answer the question. The gibberish was accepted and I was directed to the real ebay site. So if you fell for the scam, it then spits you out on the real site so you don't know you've been phished.

    I suspect the linked ebay ID has no idea his ID is being used. I doubt his account has been compromised. I sent him a message through ebay crafted to try to ascertain if he is involved but highly doubt it. I quit reporting phishing to ebay years ago but may report this one. Do they still have an email ID to forward these too? wasn't it scam@ebay.com or something like that?

    I haven't seen this level of sophistication before. Be careful out there. The gibberish test is always good if you think you're on a legitimate site but aren't sure. The legitimate site will say , "wrong user ID or password" the phishing site will accept the gibberish.

    --Jerry >>



    forward it to spoof@eBay.com
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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    forwarded with a note.
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow. Thanks for the heads-up.

    Someone had been trying to steal my credit card identity lately. They have tried twice to set up an account with some HP vendors. They don't have enough of my info, but the 2nd attempt had more info than the first attempt. Like notwilight says, be careful out there.
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  • There's a quick 'n easy way to not get taken by these scam attempts. Before clicking on any link, simply move your mouse over the link before clicking it. Your mouse cursor should change to a hand icon and the actual link URL should appear in the lower left. You may need to turn on Status or Status Bar in your Tools/Options to see it. A genuine link will appear as "---.ebay.com/whatever... but a fake one shows something like ebay.bit.ly/whatever.... A real ebay link must contain "ebay.com/" just before the slash.

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I fell for something like this a few years back in which I had to log into eBay thru a link, I did it without thinking, and the phisher got my login / password. Then they proceeded to bid high on expensive electronic equipment from about 25 auctions round the world, and won most of the auctions. All of a sudden I'm receiving e-mails about how to pay up on these items, involving thousands of dollars. I contacted eBay, who could somehow tell from their side that I had not really made these bids myself, and to their credit, they cancelled all the auctions and notified the sellers. At the same time I was trying to explain to the sellers that I hadn't bid on these, and many of those sellers understandably would not believe me. One guy replied "You MUST pay!!"

    Once the whole thing got undone, I shortly thereafter cancelled my eBay account and got out of there for good.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Simple forward all email from eBay to spoof@ebay.com that you get that are not in your eBay messages.
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  • georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭
    Scary for sure...
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would guesstimate, that 99% of that type of e-mail, ends up in my SPAM folder along with all the dying, overthrown Prince or Princes, who want to give me money, in addition to all the winning lottery tickets that only need my name, address & bank routing and account no. so that the funds can be disbursed. image
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  • Dollar2007Dollar2007 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭
    There are a few easy things to do to prevent falling for these.

    Gmail offers a setting under "labs" that marks authentic ebay and Paypal emails with a key. I have never received a fake ebay or Paypal email in my inbox anyway with Gmail, but it offers another layer of protection.

    Second, if you go to the real ebay login page, any modern browser should show a green bar, area or something around the address and say ebay inc. [U.S.]. If you don't see that, its not real.

    Also, very basic, doesn't every ebay email put your username in it? If you don't see that its fake too.
  • SpoolySpooly Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭
    I got this e-mail also.... I just deleted it.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,497 ✭✭✭✭
    Folks simply need to pay attention and try to not get too swept up in the convenience of electronic communications.

    This goes for out of the blue email from friends as well. Check everything since a hacked email account reveals addresses and literally anything can be spoofed.
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,975 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Spoof@eBay.com >>

    jot it down and send it there. best advice image

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