Does the quick flip on here bother you?

Mdube16

Curious to see if Im alone here.

You see an item on the B/S/T board that looks interesting. You do a few min worth of research and you see the seller bought it on ebay 2 weeks ago at half the price he's offering.

I have no problem with making a profit but when an item was listed with no mistakes, runs its full auction course and has had no real change in value it just bothers me. Buy it raw and have it graded...fine. See the potential grade bump...fine. Cheap BIN...fine. But regular 7 day auction and relist here with a flowery description for twice the price? I dont even mind if you buy it on Ebay, think it was cheap and relist it there with a BIN at double the price but dont insult the board like that. Is it just me? Did I wake up on the wrong side of the bed (Rainy day here in Miami.)


End of rant.

swartz1

I hope the seller gets his price...

eyebone

i agree with the op.

eyebone

shagrotn77

<< <i>i agree with the op.

eyebone >>



+1

WinPitcher

Really? Why should anyone care what someone decides to price something
out at? Unless of course it's something you covet.

MiniDuff

I get the rub, per se, however I don't ever see anyone feeling the opposite when someone needs to list an item at a loss. In the end, it does not matter a whit what someone paid for something, only what the market will bear at the time of sale. Thats the foundation of a free market. An awful lot of people didn't sell their houses for a lot more than they can now because psychologically they thought that what they paid for it mattered.

Foo3112

It doesnt bother me. If someone wants to make money and someone is willing to oay the asking price, then I say why not. If the price is unreasonable or the item isnt in demand, than I guess the item just wont sell.

Now if Im selling something and someone Im good chums with is interested, then Im sure Ill lower the price.

mknez

<< <i>I get the rub, per se, however I don't ever see anyone feeling the opposite when someone needs to list an item at a loss. In the end, it does not matter a whit what someone paid for something, only what the market will bear at the time of sale. Thats the foundation of a free market. An awful lot of people didn't sell their houses for a lot more than they can now because psychologically they thought that what they paid for it mattered. >>



+1

If you don't like the price, either move on or negotiate with the seller in private. But don't poop in the sale thread.

PLEHR

I wouldn't care if someone bought a card from me and sold it two weeks later on the B/S/T for four times what I sold it for. I'd say good for them and I guess I originally sold the item too cheap. To me it doesn't matter what people sell things for as long as both parties are happy with the end result.

milbroco

I don't mind at all. It seems your real gripe is coming here to flip it by using a "flowery" description. This I agree with. I hate and usually pass on when I hear the description as high end 8 with pearly white corners, super high gloss, impecable centering, blah blah blah. If it is an PSA 8 describe it as an PSA 8 and leave it at that.
Bob

mattinglymint23

I love payin more today then I could have yesterday.

JoeBanzai

This is not exactly the same, but I purchased a small set of cards that was poorly listed (three day auction and no mention of the top player in listing title). I then sent the cards in for grading and got some great grades and now have them listed on eBay and should make a nice profit. I took a calculated risk and it worked out. Had the cards graded lower, I might have lost money.

STOP WHINING! If a person is smart enough to buy something on a public auction site and turn around and sell it for a profit SO WHAT?

Joe

MrVintage

Yes you are alone here

pclpads

STOP WHINING! If a person is smart enough to buy something on a public auction site and turn around and sell it for a profit SO WHAT?

Joe >>

Text

+1 This happens all the time. Simply the biz end of this so-called hobby: Dealers / flippers as opposed to pure collectors. In real estate, they are called flipper-speculators. Same here.

Brick

What really irritates me is when they not only want a nice profit on the cards but they also charge more for shipping than they paid.

mrmint23

Where is Joey Farino when you dont need him?

NickM

It only bothers me when they list each one in a different thread.

Nick

JoeBanzai

<< <i>What really irritates me is when they not only want a nice profit on the cards but they also charge more for shipping than they paid. >>



Now THAT pi$$es me off!

Joe

canjond

Same here - doesn't bother me. Sometimes I don't have time to see/find everything, and if I see something I want for sale, and I think the price is fair (or within the realm of what I'm willing to pay), I'll buy it. Doesn't bother me if the seller made a nice profit. If anything, his or her time spent finding the item and bringing it to the marketplace for me to then purchase is worth something.

DCanfield

I don't see a problem with this. After all, this is what free enterprise is about. I thought the idea is to sell at a higher price than the item was bought for. To some degree that is what Nathan is doing in his quest for a 52 Mantle. I think almost all of us are rooting for him as he flips his way to his goal. Just because someone uses flowery language or the BST forum I say more power to him/her. Do what you feel will promote your product whether it be cards or widgits. If the price is too high, I'll pass and go on to the next thread to see what's being sold.

bigdcards

I am not a fan of the flip people. I see them as creating a middle man that doesn't need to be there and taking something for their fictitious role. Bad for the hobby imo.

EchoCanyon

<< <i>Curious to see if Im alone here. >>



Well, it's clear you are NOT alone, but I do NOT agree with your post/thoughts.

What if the item was bought at a yard sale (low) and sold high?

Foo3112

I am not a fan of the flip people. I see them as creating a middle man that doesn't need to be there and taking something for their fictitious role. Bad for the hobby imo.

So you just don't like anything that's for sale in general?

bigdcards

<< <i> I am not a fan of the flip people. I see them as creating a middle man that doesn't need to be there and taking something for their fictitious role. Bad for the hobby imo.

So you just don't like anything that's for sale in general? >>



Flawless interpretation.

Dpeck100

Profit is evil. LOL

MiniDuff

Now, profit on shipping...That's evil.

Nothing like having someone charge you $20 to ship a raw set and you get a medium flat rate box stuffed with last weeks paper...

RyanAdmirer

For as much time it takes to investigate cards and auctions sometimes I have no problem with something like this. More power to the seller!

MinorLeaguer

The only PSA 10 1990 Procards first card of Dominic Hasek out on ebay right now has been on ebay for $100 for a while now and sometimes its lowered $60 with a discount. It was listed immediately after he got a steal on it buying it for under $10 delivered via an ebay auction. I offered seller $25 delivered so he'd pull a quick double+. That was a few months ago. instead he keeps relisting and relisting and it sits unsold because $15 - 30 is where it has been typically selling on ebay in PSA 10. it's his card so he can do with it what he wants.

mygotta

Half of the buyers on eBay are sellers.

itzagoner

many of us can easily retrace history. if you purchase an item for a certain amount on eBay and try to make a whopping profit here, people will figure you out and not buy stuff from you anymore. it's too obvious.

however, there is absolutely nothing wrong with attempting to succeed in a free enterprise system. that's what it was made for.

it's how you go about your business. as was mentioned before, the constant barrage of new threads by some folks in the B/S/T forum is a pisser. they don't care if others observe the rules appropriately. they just wanna list more stuff.

swartz1

How dare people try to make a couple bucks to support a hobby...

shameless...

bcubs

I have no problem with it. If someone can buy something, dress it up a bit and make more money off the item, good for them!

thunderdan

It doesn't bother me at all. More power to him if he can get his price. If you don't like the price, pass on it.

KbKards

Curious to see if Im alone here.

You see an item on the B/S/T board that looks interesting. You do a few min worth of research and you see the seller bought it on ebay 2 weeks ago at half the price he's offering.

I have no problem with making a profit but when an item was listed with no mistakes, runs its full auction course and has had no real change in value it just bothers me. Buy it raw and have it graded...fine. See the potential grade bump...fine. Cheap BIN...fine. But regular 7 day auction and relist here with a flowery description for twice the price? I dont even mind if you buy it on Ebay, think it was cheap and relist it there with a BIN at double the price but dont insult the board like that. Is it just me? Did I wake up on the wrong side of the bed (Rainy day here in Miami.)


End of rant.


You probably wouldn't be having this issue if you just participated or bid more in the auction 2 weeks ago. All you had to do was outbid a guy buying it for resale. Then you could flip it on the B/S/T for whatever markup you feel is acceptable.

handyman

What are your thoughts on dealers that offer .15-20 to the dollar for peoples baseball cards vs people who buy on the open market at the current price speculating that the card may go up in the future. Or that at another time someone may be willing to pay more for the card? Is the ebay buyer the worst of the two? Or should we all just starting playing by this new rule that we can only break even(before ebay fees, traveling fees, shipping fees, ect..) whenever we decide to sell our collectibles? The increase in demand is growing for our hobby so its a good sign that someone sells a card for more at a later date. Just sit back and think your collection might be going up in value as we speak. If funds are a problem if you dont like the increase in prices then I sujest you sell some of your items to fund future purchases.
I think its a good thing.

gameusedhoop

Flip away, I say. If you missed it the 1st time around, would you rather have a 2nd chance, even at a higher price, or never see it again? If you really want it, you'll pay, if not, then you probably really dodn't want it and just wanted to B***h about it.

billwaltonsbeard

I completely agree with the OP. People should NEVER sell a card for more than what they paid for it. That being said, they should also never sell a card for less than what they paid for it either.

The sale price of a card should never change under any circumstances. EVER

Maurice

<< <i>All you had to do was outbid a guy buying it for resale. >>


Exactly.

handyman

I wish this neve happend in the stock exchange either. But thats a different thread.

PSASAP

I think someone's playing the Bleam game here. Sorry, I meant blame game.