1652 Willow tree coins??

Matrix1980

How hard would this type of coin be to get if say one has the money to buy one? Or is this a even if you have cash just forget about it?

CoinRaritiesOnline

I know of a few very nice examples, but they are in strong hands and likely would not be available at most any price.

Some do come to market - typically when significant collections are broken up, but an occasional new specimen can appear. Just as a frame of reference, despite our efforts to buy most every nice / rare / desirable colonial that comes to market, we have handled just 2 in the last 7 years - an MS64 Sixpence, and a Shilling with XF details.

Matrix1980

Do they sell for much higher than prices in the red book or in that ball park range?

CoinRaritiesOnline

Generally speaking, anything really choice, original, well and evenly (relatively speaking) struck will be higher (maybe much higher), anything ugly, poorly or unevenly (again relatively speaking) struck will probably be less.

Matrix1980

Do you have a website?? Oops just answered my own question. You have some great coins on your site!!!

coinlieutenant

They are exceedingly rare, although I see that you have hooked up with the right guy...

Matrix1980

It is more for my brother than me I don't have that kind of money at the moment and he does and wants to buy some rare U.S coins I suggested these coins. I have saved your link and will show my brother your coins when he is ready to buy.

LochNESS

There are some nice examples in the Smithsonian (D.C.) if you care to look in person

Analyst

Before responding to the posts in this thread, I wish to respond to those who are upset that I revive old threads. The newsworthiness and educational value of this old thread and its relevance to current events are readily apparent. The Kendall Collection is 'in the news' now! There are logical reasons to revive this thread, rather than start a new one, as questions from an interested collector and expert insights from CRO (who is probably busy this week) are already incorporated into this thread.

A collector started this thread for the purpose of learning about the rarity and availability of Willow Tree coins. Even if he is no longer an active member in this forum, it is likely that there are members or other readers who wish to learn about Willow Tree coins and have similar questions in mind. The members who are hostile towards my educational articles should not inhibit discussions and learning by those who are interested.

An absolutely incredible group of Willow Tree coins will be auctioned on March 26. Although most beginners may not be inclined to participate in this auction for financial or other reasons, in my current article, I discuss the rarity of the three denominatoins of Willow Tree coins and prices for Willow Tree shillings that are not quite of the relatively high quality of those that will be auctioned next week. I answer, in a thorough manner, the questions posed by Matrix80 in this thread, though I was not aware of this thread when I wrote the article.

CRO: <<Generally speaking, anything really choice, original, well and evenly (relatively speaking) struck will be higher (maybe much higher), anything ugly, poorly or unevenly (again relatively speaking) struck will probably be less. >>

It is also true that Willow Tree Shillings that failed to receive numerical grades here or ATS usually (though not always) sell for considerably less than those that are PCGS certified. Although I only explicitly cite a small number of non-gradable Willow Tree pieces in my articles, listings of auction appearances of others may be found on the Heritage, Stack's-Bowers and Goldbergs web sites. As Willow Tree coins tend to have many imperfections anyway, some (not all) of the non-gradable pieces may be good values for collectors who will not pay the premiums for the choicer survivors.

PCGS certified, Willow Tree Silver coins in the Kendall Collection

scubafuel

Don't worry Analyst. It took some time to swallow my rage at seeing an old thread back on top, but now I'm happy that you posted.

Thanks for the writeup!

(and seriously, how mad could anyone be?)

MsMorrisine

In this case there is a chance that the OP gets an email which then alerts to the Kendall collection

SullivanNumismatics

Interesting article, thanks for posting it. I've always loved the Massachusetts silver coins. This upcoming auction will certainly be fun to look through.

tyler267

Nice article Thanks

BillJones

There is a least one really nice one, lot 2310, that is coming up in The Henry P. Kendall Foundation Collection that is coming up next week in Baltimore. Stacks-Bowers is running the auction. You'll have to get on the stick to bid if you don't have an account and be prepared to pay big, big bucks.

Analyst

BillJones: <<There is a least one really nice one, lot 2310 ...>>

Lot #2310 -- 1652 Willow Tree Shilling. Noe 3-C, Salmon 3-C. Rarity-6. AU-55 (PCGS). Secure Holder.

I agree with Mr. Jones. This Willow Tree 3C is wonderful. I devote a few sentences to it in my auction review and I discuss the price realized.

Also, not everyone knows that the MA Silver coins in the Kendall Collection were PCGS certified. More and more collectors of colonials have become accepting of TPGs. Not long ago, most of them collected only raw coins.

Kendall Collection Sale Brings Solid Prices in Baltimore

silverpop

are we really that bored that we have to repost old threads?

we have learned all there is from those posts

so why not make new threads with something we haven't learned or heard of?