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Report of phony silver eagles

CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,115 ✭✭✭✭✭
in Precious Metals
Posted today on my old coin dealer network by a long-time dealer from upstate NY:

"for your information
there was an individual going around locally selling
phony silver eagles. would fool most dealers.
weight was right on. color and appearance looked good
only when you clinked a few of them together did they
not "sound" right.
we confirmed them as fakes with our xray gun.
if they offered them in a roll, with a few good rolls, most
dlrs would have bought em.
...carefull, they're getting better and better all the time !"
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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for posting.

    Coins dealers have x-ray guns?

    I always dreamed of having x-ray glasses.
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  • JulioJulio Posts: 2,501 ✭
    Buyer beware. Take care. jws
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  • nibannynibanny Posts: 2,761 ✭
    Thanks for the info, Capt!




    << <i>I always dreamed of having x-ray glasses. >>



    Few years ago they were available on many magazines, together with the sea monkeys! image

    Joking aside, how a x-ray gun works to spot a fake silver Eagle?
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,115 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FYI, the dealer is in Rochester.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any idea what they were made of?

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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    wow, we need pics of these fake eagles!!
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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    So much for taking the word of the dealer. When I buy these from my trusted guys, I typically wont even open the tube. You can bet I will be now.
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  • Mission16Mission16 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭
    "x-ray gun"? Someone want to fill us in on that?
  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"x-ray gun"? Someone want to fill us in on that? >>



    Probably this -

    Handheld XRF Analyzer: for mobile materials analysis

    Handheld XRF Analyzer: for mobile materials analysis, Precious Metal Assay: a growing solution for portable scrap jewelry purchasing; gold and other precious metals identified

  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,266 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"x-ray gun"? Someone want to fill us in on that? >>



    They bombard the item in question (metal, powder, etc) using low kV radiation from the "gun" so the item can release flouresence photons back to the detector (gun) to determine what element(s) it is.

    Almost like an xray machine and gieger counter in one unit.

    IMO, whoever operates these "guns" needs to wear proper radiation dose monitoring devices (like the little badge you see Xray Technologists wear at hospitals/imaging clinics or the ones nuclear reactor workers wear).
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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe a better idea is to use one of those disintegrator ray guns like Marty the Martian
    has on the perps peddleing this crappimage

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No radiation from the device linked. Completely safe for the user.

    "No isotopes utilized in this portable x-ray tube based system."

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does this X-ray gun work on base metal coins that are silver or gold plated?

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for sharing the information !!!
    Timbuk3
  • Mission16Mission16 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe a better idea is to use one of those disintegrator ray guns like Marty the Martian
    has on the perps peddleing this crappimage

    Steve >>




    Do you mean "Marvin the Martian" of Bugs Bunny fame? "You have made angry. very angry indeed!" image
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it was in Rochester, it will be moving east quickly... Albany, Boston, Hartford look out. Cheers, RickO
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,458 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>"x-ray gun"? Someone want to fill us in on that? >>



    Probably this -

    Handheld XRF Analyzer: for mobile materials analysis

    Handheld XRF Analyzer: for mobile materials analysis, Precious Metal Assay: a growing solution for portable scrap jewelry purchasing; gold and other precious metals identified >>



    I have one coin that I definitely need an answer to..........will be checking local salvaging companies if they have such a device. And does it work through plastic, the slab it's in?

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

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