I'm myopic (near-sighted) so I can do a fairly good job grading with the naked eye. I have a 6X and 10X loupe to check for alterations and counterfeits.
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Edited to add: usually for coins smaller than a Quarter and any quarter sized coins that I need to check more closely. Otherwise I don't use a loupe for any other coinage for grading, just to check for counterfeits, alterations, die varieties, etc.
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I always carry a Bausch & Lomb 5x magnifier with me to look at and grade coins. I also carry a Zeiss 3x, 6x, 9x loupe with me to shows for close study of die varieties. Of course, I am looking at half dimes, so I need at least 5x just to see the things.
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Anyone know what profession graders use at the major grading services? Or, is each grader allowed to use whatever he is comfortable with?
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Viewing I try to stay with no magnification but I am mostly interested in quarter size and larger coins now. But do give all coins a going over with a 5x before submitting then, looking for anything I missed that might mean a no grade still get burned once in awhile. As for the pros I understand that they only use 5x when there is debate or question on a coin or the 70 grade comes into play.
<< <i>I always carry a Bausch & Lomb 5x magnifier with me to look at and grade coins. I also carry a Zeiss 3x, 6x, 9x loupe with me to shows for close study of die varieties. Of course, I am looking at half dimes, so I need at least 5x just to see the things. >>
I collect half dimes too, but my eyes are not so good. Here's my coin desk:
<< <i>I'm myopic (near-sighted) so I can do a fairly good job grading with the naked eye. I have a 6X and 10X loupe to check for alterations and counterfeits. >>
Ditto. This is pretty much the way I select coins also.
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<< <i>None. I only pull out a loupe to verify a variety or check on a spot that I see with my naked eye. 90%+ I do not use one. >>
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None unless I need to verify a variety on a very small coin.
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10x. Big props to you guys who grade with a naked eye. But if it's worth me buying, it's worth using a 10x loupe. It's way too easy to overlook small deep scratches or PVC damage on coins smaller than a quarter and/or copper.
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I don't use much for grading, perhaps my 5X B&L packet glass. But, always and I mean always I will look very hard and up close to the surfaces with any magnification I need, that allows me to see what I need to see. Especially on circulated bust material. Edit to add....... in the last 5 years or so I use the 6X on my Eschenbach 3-6-9 loupe.
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I'm far-sighted so have always used a loupe. But naked eye more now than when my vision was better.
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<< <i>Eschenbach 5X. $80 or so but well worth the investment. >>
Ditto. I bought mine as a present to myself last Christmas, based on some forum recommendations. I REALLY regret I did not make the investment in a good loupe like this many years ago. Actually I do quick scans on coins at shows, etc, with a large cheap 3X mag, to quickly weed out the obvious junk. Then when I see something of interest that passes the first screen, out comes the Eschenbach.
Re: naked eye grading - I was quite surprised some years back when I offered a raw Unc 16P walker to one of the fellows at NorthEast Numismatics.....he did a quick naked eye scan and made an offer. I countered, he bought it. I then asked why no glass? He said he does not need them for 'most' coins. Said he actually judges luster and surface quality better without one. But he's a real pro - this weekend warrior needs his Eschenbach!
Most of the TPG graders that I know use the standard 5X loupe. I've had a few of them tell me to use a 5X for my final call on whether I submit the coin or not. I use a 16X for varieties, and 5X for general grading.
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Edited to add: usually for coins smaller than a Quarter and any quarter sized coins that I need to check more closely. Otherwise I don't use a loupe for any other coinage for grading, just to check for counterfeits, alterations, die varieties, etc.
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<< <i>None. I only pull out a loupe to verify a variety or check on a spot that I see with my naked eye. 90%+ I do not use one. >>
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<< <i>Anyone know what profession graders use at the major grading services? Or, is each grader allowed to use whatever he is comfortable with? >>
I seem to recal reading that thay sometimes use a 5x but not higher.
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As for the pros I understand that they only use 5x when there is debate or question on a coin or the 70 grade comes into play.
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<< <i>I always carry a Bausch & Lomb 5x magnifier with me to look at and grade coins. I also carry a Zeiss 3x, 6x, 9x loupe with me to shows for close study of die varieties. Of course, I am looking at half dimes, so I need at least 5x just to see the things.
I collect half dimes too, but my eyes are not so good. Here's my coin desk:
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<< <i>I'm myopic (near-sighted) so I can do a fairly good job grading with the naked eye. I have a 6X and 10X loupe to check for alterations and counterfeits. >>
Ditto. This is pretty much the way I select coins also.
<< <i>None. I only pull out a loupe to verify a variety or check on a spot that I see with my naked eye. 90%+ I do not use one. >>
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<< <i>None. I only pull out a loupe to verify a variety or check on a spot that I see with my naked eye. 90%+ I do not use one. >>
This. >>
That. MJ
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Edit to add....... in the last 5 years or so I use the 6X on my Eschenbach 3-6-9 loupe.
Eschenbach 5X. $80 or so but well worth the investment. Best undistorted range of vision I've encountered in 30+ years as a dealer. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
<< <i>Eschenbach 5X. $80 or so but well worth the investment. >>
Ditto. I bought mine as a present to myself last Christmas, based on some forum recommendations. I REALLY regret I did not make
the investment in a good loupe like this many years ago.
Actually I do quick scans on coins at shows, etc, with a large cheap 3X mag, to quickly weed out the obvious junk.
Then when I see something of interest that passes the first screen, out comes the Eschenbach.
Re: naked eye grading - I was quite surprised some years back when I offered a raw Unc 16P walker to one of the fellows at NorthEast Numismatics.....he did a quick naked eye scan and made an offer. I countered, he bought it. I then asked why no glass? He said he does not
need them for 'most' coins. Said he actually judges luster and surface quality better without one. But he's a real pro - this weekend warrior needs
his Eschenbach!
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I've had a few of them tell me to use a 5X for my final call on whether I submit the coin or not.
I use a 16X for varieties, and 5X for general grading.
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I use various B&L loupes to check for varieties, etc. If I have a need for close inspection, I visit Barndog and spend time at his coin desk.
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3x6x9 zeiss and some knockoff 20x when i desire to see the electrons orbiting the atoms
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