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It all started we wanted to play some pool for cards- it was $50 best of 3...i won that 2-0

He quickly wanted double or nothing right away...i agree...beat him again 2-0....he owed $100

Right after that he just left and when I IMed him he said he had dinner or homework or something....and we would play later

After about a week of asking...we started playing again....I said this would be it (no more double or nothings and everything) and that if I won he owed me $150 and if he won he owed me only $50

I won the first game and was up 1-0 when he suddenly "got kicked off." He never came back that day or even any day for 2 weeks later after countless excuses.

When I finally took it to the board he got extremely mad saying now he wasnt going to play me cause I told everyone (even though he wouldnt have played anyway)

Now every time I IM him he bashes me with his foul mouth and doesnt even want to talk

So basically its been about a month and he still owes me a game for $150 BV which I know I would win

Now all of you can see why I was mad basically because I was out $150 BV that I won fair and square. I never cheated, I never left our games (I dont care what Ski says. HES LYING). I mean, if you cant pay up, why even play?? I have played many pool games and payed up when I lost. Ski needs to mature and face it and pay up for what he's gotten himself into. I have been here longer than many of you, and should be able to be trusted after my 50+ trades. I can guarentee 110% this is absolutely true and nothing is false.

So if I have a problem with Ski, dont tell me to shut up cause "hes a nice guy" or "hes a good trader" or "take it to PM's"....because none of that works and Ski is a good trader I'll admit that, but he has a lot of growing up to do otherwise.

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  • AiRjOrDaN22AiRjOrDaN22 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭
    He is a good trader
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  • He's a nice guy
  • I think thats a textbook reason for why people under 18 (or it may be 21 not sure) are'nt allowed to gamble..

    I do think ski should give you what's due..But it's not the same as if it was a trade where you had sent $150 in cards and got nothing..I've played (and lost) pool against you and others..And being an adult I'm smart enough to walk away after losing a couple cards..A teenager does'nt have that sort of rationality (Or at least most don't)..It's easier for a young mind to tell itself just one more game and I'll break even..He's just not old enough to know when to walk away..And I would assume freaked out when he realised how deep he had gotten himself in..
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  • don't matter theanswer......that nizzle should pay up either freaking way

    Personally I don't give a damn if he's a nice guy,good trader, or younG. Pay up if you lost a bet~ Cmon man even your idol "jordan" payed his debts due to his gambling problem.

    The thing is - he probably would of took 150 bv from this guy if ski had won right? PAY YOUR DUES OR DON'T BET AT ALL.
  • LOL, I've said all along ski should pay up..Steve even offered to take like installments so ski would'nt have to cough up the whole $150 at once..

    My point is theres a reason for age limits on things..Gambling even trading, the rules of this site when you register say you must be at least 16 to use the buy/sell/trade board...Now there are alot of ggod traders here under 16 so do I think that rule should be enforced no..Do I think it should be used as a reason to banish members under 16 who dont make good on thier trades yes..

    I hope you were'nt calling Jordan my idol?? I've never been a big Jordan fan..And if you read the SI article years ago when he first retired for baseball you know he has had Gambling problems..ie. his first retirement was because he was busted betting on NBA games (even his own team ) ala Pete Rose, But being the marketing phenomon he was and squeaky clean role model..the league painted his 2 year supension as a retirement..There were also alligations that his fathers murder was tied to his gambling debts..If you remember when that happened they reported that the 'car jackers" that killed his father cut off his fathers finger (The one he wore tha championship ring MJ gave him on)..Now how many car jackers take time to kill then remove the finger of someone their jacking??...Thats a mafia thing..

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  • Hey I was talking to ski about jordan being his idol.

    I know jordan had some serious problems and i've heard many stories on his fathers death. The only thing I don't like about jordan is how he got credited so much for playing byron russel on his final shot. WOW A SHOT ON BYRON RUSSEL? kobe or iverson could drop 100 on that guy one on one.
  • SkiVermont3SkiVermont3 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭
    lol...that story isnt even true...im out the door to play sum bkb, but ill be back later to xplian...haha...good to see steve has a good imagination.
  • Steve, you mean to tell us that there are kids out there who...gasp!...don't pay their gambling debts! Stop the presses!

    Yawn. If someone rips you off, we'll all support you. If you're playing pool with a guy who has gotten a bad rep and you expect him to graciously send you $150 in cards when he loses, well then you can't blame us for your gullibility.
  • Listen everyone...I know Ski will come back here and chalk up some sorry lame ass story...but for all of you who know me or even if you dont I am 100% truthful and I swear on ANYTHING in this world that this story is FAR from imagination
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  • Steve, I don't think you're lying, and I cetinaly would say most people here believe you over Ski. I just said it will tough to gather sympathy when you play pool for cards with a guy who is known to have problems sending on trades, and then thinking he wil send when he loses.
  • Actually, when he first started playing it was a month ago and Ski had no problems....only a few weeks later when I announced what was going on did a few other people come out about this guy as well...

    It should be funny when Ski gets back to see how he defends himself...
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  • <<don't matter theanswer......that nizzle should pay up either freaking way

    Personally I don't give a damn if he's a nice guy,good trader, or younG. Pay up if you lost a bet~ Cmon man even your idol "jordan" payed his debts due to his gambling problem.

    The thing is - he probably would of took 150 bv from this guy if ski had won right? PAY YOUR DUES OR DON'T BET AT ALL.>>



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  • Steve, I of course believe you that all that happened, oh man what a surprise right......


    I knew when I saw people starting to play for cards the chit was gonna hit the fan, I think I even made a post about it...... I know ift sucks ya lost, even though ya won......
    Id say chalk it up as experience, and keep bringing it up until he makes good. But dont expect anything in return.
    Results......
    1) Ski's rep will continue being stained
    2) Youll get your cards
    3)Nobody else will bet with him

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  • Exactly DaBeef....and I definitely wasnt going to forget about this...

    Ya know....I seriously havent had any personal problems with Ski because we did make nice transactions in the past...but I just want my cards like anyone else on here would
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  • Hey Leon-your a great reference- did Mcdee get his cards back yet?
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  • mcdee2mcdee2 Posts: 1,150
    amen and thanks jamesy! of all people to comment as a character reference... a thief...
  • isin't this a Buy Sell & Trade -SPORTS forum!? Not a gambling betting forum. So next time don't bet TRADE, too young to bet, so really there is nothing you can do because your not of legal age to bet, btw AI3 age is 21, (i'm in vegas) :-) As I said next time get a 3rd party to supervise since your 'betting'
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  • Mcdee thats not the real leon, the real leon is not home yet, so it must be a fake
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  • I just think anytime you make a bet with anyone but the house, you should not be surprised when they're not too happy about paying up. Especially online, where you can't just walk down to the guys house and break his nose or something. The only time I've ever seen a consistent return on gambling was when I used to bet football in college, and that was with an actual bookie, not just some punk.
  • awaltzawaltz Posts: 726


    << <i>isin't this a Buy Sell & Trade -SPORTS forum!? Not a gambling betting forum >>



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  • awaltz you have to reword you 5th grade writing, cannot understand what you are saying, are you agreeing, or insulting me?
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  • << <i>awaltz you have to reword you 5th grade writing, cannot understand what you are saying, are you agreeing, or insulting me? >>



    First you might want to find out if he is insulting you before you insult him, just a thought
  • Come on Steve it's a foolish game of online pool let it go
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  • I am loveing this i leave for about 12 weeks and Ski is the bad guy i rember when he was some what of a god. It was ski who stoped me from gettting in to TR and it was ski who made cracks on people when he had no bizz in it. But no one cared and now you all hate him. Dang i wish i was here this stuff is funny. Ohh and by the way just so you guys know this is a trader board please take this to a PM or a instant messg not here. I dont care but it really makes some people mad. Thats just my .02 cents
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  • Way to go vittleboy, the thing I try to tell this idiot is, who the hell cares if someone won't pay their gambling debt to you? It has nothing to do with CU.


  • << <i>Ohh and by the way just so you guys know this is a trader board please take this to a PM or a instant messg not here. I dont care but it really makes some people mad. Thats just my .02 cents >>



    Ok, if you don't care, why don't you leave the complaining for the people "it makes mad"?

    Threads like these are great, it shows new people & people that do not sit here 24/7, who not to trade with.
  • If you wish to see an idiot, why don't you look in the mirror...
    If you are an example of the new TR members, I feel sorry
    for JSA and Co...

    I would trade with NBA anytime over your sorry a$$... image
  • Thanks for the input TopofOhio, in case anyone was wondering whetehr you're a jerk or not you cleared that up nicely.
  • And, by the way, I'm not a 'new' member, I've been there for a while now, so you don't have to feel sorry for JSA and company...they're runnign a great sight and don't need your sympathy.
  • Different when the shoe is on the other foot, isn't it? You have
    no right calling Steve an idiot as you don't know him... All you
    do is make stupid remarks about things you don't know about...
    When you are here a little longer than 2 months, know who and
    what you are talking about, then you may call people idiots..

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  • SkiVermont3SkiVermont3 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭
    could we please think about stopping topping this...cause its bullshiz and ridiculously untrue and just plain gay already...
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  • Top of Ohio, you are an idiot..... just wanted to start off with that. Don't really know you, but i base it on the fact that should realize that you don't have to be here an alloted amount of time to say what you please. Just b/c you have been here since 1974 does not mean that you have more rights than anyone else (ie Ryan).

    Second, does anyone else see the ignorance in saying "my .02 cents". Do these people not realize that .02 cents equals 1/50th of one cent??

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  • Are all Texans as smart as you? Take your head out of
    your a$$ before you speak... If it's name calling you like,
    bring it on... I can do it pretty good as well...

    The reference to time here was to explain the fact that
    Ryan may not know everyone here and shouldn't call
    Steve names... Since you have done so and have been
    here long enough, you may do so... Takes an idiot to
    know one...
  • I back up TopOfOhio 100%...you guys that have been here a few months or less have no right to call us names when you dont even know us. We've been here too long and made many more trades then you guys...so just shut up and carry on
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  • SkiVermont3SkiVermont3 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭
    ummmm....and jerick and topofohio have their lil catfight thru pms so this doesnt keep topping? PLEASE....


  • << <i>ummmm....and jerick and topofohio have their lil catfight thru pms so this doesnt keep topping? PLEASE.... >>




    thought you were gone? also wheres your side of the story..
  • yea ski im intrested in your side of the story too
  • Yeah, if NBAsteves version of the story is """"bullshiz and ridiculously untrue"""" why don't you give us all the REAL Story? Skivermont?
  • Steve, you started this post, and you're the one who actually expects peole to give a crap because someone 's not paying his gambling debt to you. Hey, guess what jack*ss - if someone doens't pay there gambling debts to you, no one here can help you, and no one cares. You didn't get ripped off, you're just some gullible and naive chump who thinks everyone always pays their gambling debts immediately, especially those who don't even complete trades. I am going to continue to slam you on this post, because while we may not have traded, I do know that you're a whiny little b*tch who can't stop crying to the board about how big bad Ski won't send you cards (which by the way, everyone who has read this post is 100% sure you are never, ever going to get) so why not just drop it and chalk it up to lesson in experience not to deal with Ski.

    Jeez, I've seen people who were really ripped off, who had a legitmate gripe with someone, not go on this long crying and moaning.

    TopofOhio, I don't want to turn this into a fight with you, because I know you're just defending your freind, and I can't fault you for that. I had some people pissed at me lately because I was defending TrFstPtch, who I'd made some good trades with but others were not so happy with him. I apologize for calling you a jerk - I shouldn't dog on you for defending your freind, it'd be nice if we had more people on here who were so loyal.
  • Well...It seems to me...that...in my expert...opinion...that...you shouldn't judge people or...criticize people...who...you...do...not...know...or have not traded with or talked...with in...extent. That is what's happening here. Also about the people that have been here only a few months (I'm one of them) I really don't think that it is that hard to find out who is a good trader and who is a bad trader on here by just reading the posts. So if someone is having troubles with another guy on here they should post it but there is no reason for everyone to jump in on criticizing because of...well...because of no reason at all image Again in my...expert opinion image...on the post you should hear both sides of the story...in this case it seems that ski doesn't want to disclose his side...but after that then you reach a conclusion, IF IT IS RELATED TO THIS BOARD, Yahoo! Pool is not trading cards, is not selling cards, nor is it buying cards. So therefore don't post it here. Oy Chris. image
  • I want to go on record as saying that if this "transaction" did not happen on these boards -- go cry somewhere else.

    Steve, this was not a trade conducted on these baords, so leave Ski alone! He is a good trader that has some problems to work out. But he did not stiff you on a trade on this board, why do you keep hashing this up. It's not like you sent him a card and then he did not deliver his deal. NO this was an online pool game, start a pool gambling message board and take it there.

    as for TopofOhio and uwftke26 - you both say the same things, have the same thoughts and demeanor therefor you two ARE the same type of person.

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  • Why is it that you people keep complaining about topics like this?

    Does it take up much space? - No
    Is it less usefull than topics asking for price guide help? - No
    Is it less usefull than those "personal messages" posted on the board? - No
    Does topics that is about NBA in general have anything thing to do with Trading/Selling/Buying? - No
    Does those contests have anything to do with Trading etc.? - No
    Does fantasy sports have anything to do with Trading etc.? - No

    Why don't you go complaing about stuff like that instead? I mean it dosnt have anything to do with Trading/Buying/Selling so of course it dosnt belong on the board.

    -mik
  • I wanna see how this soap opera is going to end. Will Ski fess up to owing NBASteve or will Ski come up with his side of the story? Will anyone else play pool with Ski after this episode? Stay tuned for the next exciting reply to "The whole story with Ski" here on CU.LOLimage
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  • Het Steve the reason I totally believe you is Ski responded in the exact same way when I exposed his attempted ripoff of that arod/ripkin auto.... He'll probly come up with some bs crap like he did with me..
    And UwWhatever... Youre coming off as a complete idiot.... If Steve was ripped, by a board member, it needs attention.... But you think its his tough luck, lol...Your an idiot......
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  • dirtmonkeydirtmonkey Posts: 3,048 ✭✭
    Can someone get a plunger and get this $hit post to go down the crapper?
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  • awaltzawaltz Posts: 726
    Ski-We are all waiting for "your side of the story". If the story Steve told you is "bogus". PROVE IT!!
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  • everyone just let this drop- its just starting fights between multiple people and uwftke26 might have a heart attack so just let this one go...I wont forget about Ski but this post needs to go down

    thanks
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  • no steve im tired of ski;s $hit, i want to see his side of the story, and i want you and I to get my cards!
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