Gambled On A Raw 1881-S Morgan

Banemorth

I almost never buy raw unless I'm buying at the silver value but I really thought this Morgan looked good and the price was right. Found it in a little antique shop in New England where I'm on vacation. It's not my series so I hope I didn't overpay! What do you guys think this grades at?

lasvegasteddy

at melt...looks nice even if for a 7070...

Banemorth

Yeah I had a feeling she was cleaned. Story of my life

lasvegasteddy

<< <i>Yeah I had a feeling she was cleaned. Story of my life >>


not necessarily so...just hard to tell from image
pretty looking melt purchase i swear

WTCG

I can't tell for sure if the streaks on the face are scratches, toning or remnants of a fingerprint but the coin looks nice to me.

Banemorth

<< <i>I can't tell for sure if the streaks on the face are scratches, toning or remnants of a fingerprint but the coin looks nice to me. >>



It looks like a fingerprint to me. There's no scratches on the face

Banemorth

So you think it's original? It's always hard for me to tell on these coins that are more proof-like. Have a difficult time discerning between over-dipped or not. Care to venture a guess on a grade?

mkman123

looks like a nice coin, no real scratches or anything. I wonder if it was dipped but not dipped right hence those lines. If it does grade, maybe 64-65? Has muted luster though

Buzzybest

If you have any other coins to submit with it to reduce grading and shipping costs,please do, and let us know the results.

AUandAG

I like it. Just the wrong mint mark! Probably a nice 65 IMHO.

bob

Banemorth

<< <i>I like it. Just the wrong mint mark! Probably a nice 65 IMHO.

bob >>



Bob one day I'll own a nice CC Morgan! I do plan on submitting this one. Hoping for a 65 personally and that's what I thought it was when I bought it. Paid $70.

Crazy4Coins

I don't see anything that indicates it has been cleaned, other than a possible dip.

Based on what I can see from the images, I'd say you have a 65 there, and quite possibly a 66. Really depends on how much of that haze is on the coin flip.


If you paid close to silver value, then you did real good.

lasvegasteddy

"I do plan on submitting this one. Hoping for a 65 personally and that's what I thought it was when I bought it. Paid $70."
best education going
always nice too...to have you're own examples for a per se "grading reference" and what's acceptable
i too concur
65/66 is not out the question
halo's around stars are a lil concern...but that's all...a lil concern...images are not prime to truly guess from...
nice...very nice example

Banemorth

Thanks guys. Ever since I bought a couple fake Seated Dollars a couple years ago when I first got rolling I've completely avoided raw coins unless I was buying them at melt. This was the first step in what will prove to be a very long process

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>Thanks guys. Ever since I bought a couple fake Seated Dollars a couple years ago when I first got rolling I've completely avoided raw coins unless I was buying them at melt. This was the first step in what will prove to be a very long process >>



i highly recommend people spend some time in my counterfeit thread

i've been into numismatics less than 3 years and 95% of the coins i've bought are raw, and i've bought thousands and would be surprised to learn if more than 2 were altered/counterfeit, so if i can buy raw coins successfullly, anyone can. it is a simple matter of getting out what you put in.

sowwy for the off-topic OP. images are too poor to accurately guess but it sure looks like it has promise
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mbogoman

<< <i>halo's around stars are a lil concern...but that's all...a lil concern...images are not prime to truly guess from... nice...very nice example >>



That's what I saw, too. Those little halos don't come naturally...

morgansforever

If you bought it for melt, there is nothing to worry about. Very nice coin.

Timbuk3

Dipped, 65 net !!!

Justlooking

I'd say dipped. The obverse looks hazy ... dead giveaway. Bad rinse job?

Wonder what kind of patina it had that the previous owner found objectionable? We can only guess ...

Banemorth

I agree it has been dipped but the question is will it grade? It has begun to retone a lovely red color around the edges which I find very pleasant. I plan to give it a quick acetone bath and a good rinse before sending it out.

Justlooking

Love to see the post-bath photo. I think it could go 65.

JJM

64+, shot at 65 if it hasnt been cleaned

Treashunt

no opinions in the plastic.

Try new pix outside the holder

lcoopie

I am wondering if it has PVC ?

rld14

Technically it ought to 65 from the pics I am seeing.

Nothing wrong with buying raw coins, I must have made close to half the coins in my Barber half set (VF-XF) and I think that I had a what, 95% success rate with grading them?

Banemorth

I went back to the same shop today and bought a bunch more coins

I am going to do something a little different I'll make a video and post it on YouTube so you guys can more easily see the coins. It'll be educational AND fun! Once I get home from Vacation that is. Thanks again for all the kind words and help!

MICHAELDIXON

I don't see a dipped coin. I see a coin that needs to be photographed outside the holder. Looks 65 to me.

TwoSides2aCoin

San Francisco minted a lot of great Morgans in 1881. It's not difficult to find nice specimens in this year.

CEOcoinshopcom

Looks like you have a shot!!!!!
Good luck.