Just caught on coinweek there will be a new coin reality show on the lines of pawn stars/pickers and the rest of the bunch. Will premiere in the fall on nat geo.
In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch.
With that being said a show like this will probably "recruit" some new collectors, which is a good thing for this industry.
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<< <i>In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch. >>
<< <i>In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch. >>
Do you really think so? I don't know? When the " public " finds out how much these coins, they been placing in their glass jars to cash in later,are actually worth more than just face value. They will finally know what the coin dealer doesn't want them to know! Esp. say someone just turned their grandma's old wheaties/mercs,etc. in to a coin shop and realize they just gave them a 1909s VDB to a person that didn't get what the coin was actually worth!
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<< <i>In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch. >>
Do you really think so? I don't know? When the " public " finds out how much these coins, they been placing in their glass jars to cash in later,are actually worth more than just face value. They will finally know what the coin dealer doesn't want them to know! Esp. say someone just turned their grandma's old wheaties/mercs,etc. in to a coin shop and realize they just gave them a 1909s VDB to a person that didn't get what the coin was actually worth! >>
If anything the public will begin to think every single coin they have in a jar or drawer is worth big money, from circulated bicentennial quarters to worn wheat cents. Then when a dealer tells them the (true) bad news they will instinctively make accusations that are unjustified and libelous. When the public calls you up with a collection they found and want to sell, the vast majority of those coins are worth face value or metal value. Anything worth a decent premium is very, very seldom.
Collectors think widows walk in with gem Bust Dollars to sell for pennies on the dollar on a daily basis. Yeah right.
Any time a coin story makes the news the result is a rash of calls from the public thinking they are set for retirement. A show like this will compound that.
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<< <i>In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch. With that being said a show like this will probably "recruit" some new collectors, which is a good thing for this industry. >>
How about a show about people who buy storage lockers? Or a show about people who hoard things? Or guys who fish for crab? There are far less mainstream topics covered in other shows that, when properly produced, result in a show that can have surprisingly wide appeal. Collectibles could make for a great topic for a show - I think it's brilliant. It's not American Idol, but I don't see why it cant generate an respectable audience, and maybe even move the needle for the hobby.
<< <i>In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch.
With that being said a show like this will probably "recruit" some new collectors, which is a good thing for this industry. >>
I agree with you in that the mainstream won't be that interested but have you watched some of these reality shows lately. About the only one I like is "pawn stars" but I watch some of the others with my son and they are not reality at all in my opinion, they are entertainment, and boy do they entertain.
Scenario: A young boy comes in ,will say:" with 2009 Lincoln pennies." The boy is quite baffled that he not only has a different mark on this 2009 Lincoln cent,which looks like a " fifth finger" but four other 2009 Lincoln pennies with all different marks,that also look like an extra thumb,an extra pinky on his hand,and a few other funny looking fingers on Lincoln's hand. This makes the boy very curious about what the U.S.Mint might of mistakenly let out of circulation? Stories such as this,I think would set the unknowledgeable public on FIRE about this hobby!This is just one scenario.
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The new show "Picked Off" is quite good , 4 teams of two start with $100 and there's 4 rounds and in each the least valuable item picked is the losing team.They get a limited time to go out and find items from predesiginated places which limits it but it's quite good and preferable to american pickers. The winners in Picked Off get 10k , a couple of bikers won it last night.
I do not know this dealer, but she said 'road show' several times and it just made me think of the Hotel buyers. (again, not insinuating that at all)
Hopefully they chock it full of educational tips, like, - do not go to hotel buyers, and show that not every old coin has value. Both Pawnstars and American picker do ok, in showing when items may be neat, but really don't have a lot of value. That is what would be most helpful to the hobby, from a show like this.
and she did say they would be looking at much ore than just coins, (art, jewelry, antiques) so that should help hold a little more interest.
I wonder if this new show will have the creators of same come up with a catchy phrase that will be a "signature" of the show?
Similar to "The Wow Factor" used in Storage Wars; or "Boom Baby" used in American Diggers.
I wonder also if the show will have a cast of "regulars" who will appear in each show and dominate same [like the 4 guys in Pawn Stars; and Barry Weiss, Jarrod Schultz, Brandi Passante, Dave Hester and Darrell Sheets]. If so, how do you think the regulars will be cast? Without question at least one regular will have to be cast as the stereotypical "coin nerd". I wonder if any coin dealer character in the show will be shown being disheveled, out of shape and stuffing a hot dog in his mouth while having mustard drip onto his shirt
<< <i>Any time a coin story makes the news the result is a rash of calls from the public thinking they are set for retirement. A show like this will compound that. >>
This was my first reaction. I don't know that this necessarily helps the hobby. Maybe it'll help awaken people that are prone to being skeezed by hotel buyers, but then I'm convinced that there is a segment of society bent on screwing themselves no matter how much opportunity and information they're given to avoid doing that.
The few times I've watched Pawn Stars or American Pickers, there have been things that I've thought were cool that I don't collect. There may be people like that watching this show that get that same feeling and decide to pursue the coolness further than their TV. They won't be the ones with dollar signs in their eyes, either.
So who is going to be the first forum member to show up on the show as a member of the public? Bonus points if you can get on camera with a mustard stain somewhere.
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<< <i>In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch. >>
Do you really think so? I don't know? When the " public " finds out how much these coins, they been placing in their glass jars to cash in later,are actually worth more than just face value. They will finally know what the coin dealer doesn't want them to know! Esp. say someone just turned their grandma's old wheaties/mercs,etc. in to a coin shop and realize they just gave them a 1909s VDB to a person that didn't get what the coin was actually worth! >>
If anything the public will begin to think every single coin they have in a jar or drawer is worth big money, from circulated bicentennial quarters to worn wheat cents. Then when a dealer tells them the (true) bad news they will instinctively make accusations that are unjustified and libelous. When the public calls you up with a collection they found and want to sell, the vast majority of those coins are worth face value or metal value. Anything worth a decent premium is very, very seldom.
Collectors think widows walk in with gem Bust Dollars to sell for pennies on the dollar on a daily basis. Yeah right.
Any time a coin story makes the news the result is a rash of calls from the public thinking they are set for retirement. A show like this will compound that. >>
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<< <i>In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch. >>
Do you really think so? I don't know? When the " public " finds out how much these coins, they been placing in their glass jars to cash in later,are actually worth more than just face value. They will finally know what the coin dealer doesn't want them to know! Esp. say someone just turned their grandma's old wheaties/mercs,etc. in to a coin shop and realize they just gave them a 1909s VDB to a person that didn't get what the coin was actually worth! >>
If anything the public will begin to think every single coin they have in a jar or drawer is worth big money, from circulated bicentennial quarters to worn wheat cents. Then when a dealer tells them the (true) bad news they will instinctively make accusations that are unjustified and libelous. When the public calls you up with a collection they found and want to sell, the vast majority of those coins are worth face value or metal value. Anything worth a decent premium is very, very seldom.
Collectors think widows walk in with gem Bust Dollars to sell for pennies on the dollar on a daily basis. Yeah right.
Any time a coin story makes the news the result is a rash of calls from the public thinking they are set for retirement. A show like this will compound that. >>
That was pretty much what I was thinking. A lot of people I deal with who have found or inherited old coins think they must be really valuable since they're old. When I break the news over the phone and try to explain that their buffalo nickel is probably worth less than fifty cents they sometimes get angry and hang up or have some choice words for me because they don't believe it. At least when they are actually face to face with me in the office I can pull out my bags or boxes or buckets of common old coins and show them an example similar to theirs and tell them what I would sell it to them for if they are interested in buying.
I thought it would be something like someone found a Seated $ in the belly of a gator shot on "Swamp People." The guy finds out that he can get more for the coin than the gator.
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The show may turn out to be good or just another train wreck, but any publicity for our hobby by knowledgeable people on the NatGeo channel may turn out to be a good thing. It won't cure what ails parts of the hobby, but any new blood it brings in will be OK in my book.
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They've been around for a long time and they can be considered decent sized players. I can't say I know Mal that well but I know and like Shelly Rodriguez.
Interesting responses to my previous statements. Collectors seem to be slightly taken aback while dealers agree with me. This is totally what I expected.
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What Andy said and add that Mal Varner probably is in the top 1% of all dealers in broad based experience. Probably got his start when I was in elementary school, and I am 51. He could tell stories (true) that would make your hair stand up. Not a household name because he obviously chooses not to be in the limelight, (well, I guess until now) but well known to those who deal on a national level.
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Malcolm is good people, very busy and all kinds of gold, silver and high end coinage. Nice antiques and jewelry too. I have been there to many times to count and he's easy to deal with.......when you can catch him
I have always had good experiences dealing with them. I have never really dealt with Malcolm, pretty much every time I have been in the store, Malcolm's brother Jay has been there. I used to try and go in once a week, but haven't been in a while. It will be interesting and I'm looking forward to watching. They don't have anything on ebay right now either, but here's a link to their "me" page. Alhambra coin "me" Page
According to their website, their "Roadshow" is held at hotels, currently at the crown Plaza hotel. Sounds like a hotel buyer to me. I am quickly losing interest in watching the show now.
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<< <i>In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch. >>
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<< <i>In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch. >>
Do you really think so? I don't know? When the " public " finds out how much these coins, they been placing in their glass jars to cash in later,are actually worth more than just face value. They will finally know what the coin dealer doesn't want them to know! Esp. say someone just turned their grandma's old wheaties/mercs,etc. in to a coin shop and realize they just gave them a 1909s VDB to a person that didn't get what the coin was actually worth!
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<< <i>In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch. >>
Do you really think so? I don't know? When the " public " finds out how much these coins, they been placing in their glass jars to cash in later,are actually worth more than just face value. They will finally know what the coin dealer doesn't want them to know! Esp. say someone just turned their grandma's old wheaties/mercs,etc. in to a coin shop and realize they just gave them a 1909s VDB to a person that didn't get what the coin was actually worth! >>
If anything the public will begin to think every single coin they have in a jar or drawer is worth big money, from circulated bicentennial quarters to worn wheat cents. Then when a dealer tells them the (true) bad news they will instinctively make accusations that are unjustified and libelous. When the public calls you up with a collection they found and want to sell, the vast majority of those coins are worth face value or metal value. Anything worth a decent premium is very, very seldom.
Collectors think widows walk in with gem Bust Dollars to sell for pennies on the dollar on a daily basis. Yeah right.
Any time a coin story makes the news the result is a rash of calls from the public thinking they are set for retirement. A show like this will compound that.
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Might not just be numismatic items , baseball cards , pez dispensers ..could be lots of interest if it's done right.
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<< <i>In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch. With that being said a show like this will probably "recruit" some new collectors, which is a good thing for this industry. >>
How about a show about people who buy storage lockers? Or a show about people who hoard things? Or guys who fish for crab? There are far less mainstream topics covered in other shows that, when properly produced, result in a show that can have surprisingly wide appeal. Collectibles could make for a great topic for a show - I think it's brilliant. It's not American Idol, but I don't see why it cant generate an respectable audience, and maybe even move the needle for the hobby.
<< <i>In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch.
With that being said a show like this will probably "recruit" some new collectors, which is a good thing for this industry. >>
I agree with you in that the mainstream won't be that interested but have you watched some of these reality shows lately. About the only one I like is "pawn stars" but I watch some of the others with my son and they are not reality at all in my opinion, they are entertainment, and boy do they entertain.
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--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.Hopefully they chock it full of educational tips, like, - do not go to hotel buyers, and show that not every old coin has value. Both Pawnstars and American picker do ok, in showing when items may be neat, but really don't have a lot of value. That is what would be most helpful to the hobby, from a show like this.
and she did say they would be looking at much ore than just coins, (art, jewelry, antiques) so that should help hold a little more interest.
thanks for posting, I am interested...
Similar to "The Wow Factor" used in Storage Wars; or "Boom Baby" used in American Diggers.
I wonder also if the show will have a cast of "regulars" who will appear in each show and dominate same [like the 4 guys in Pawn Stars; and Barry Weiss, Jarrod Schultz, Brandi Passante, Dave Hester and Darrell Sheets]. If so, how do you think the regulars will be cast? Without question at least one regular will have to be cast as the stereotypical "coin nerd". I wonder if any coin dealer character in the show will be shown being disheveled, out of shape and stuffing a hot dog in his mouth while having mustard drip onto his shirt
Website lists no inventory? Weird
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<< <i>Any time a coin story makes the news the result is a rash of calls from the public thinking they are set for retirement. A show like this will compound that. >>
This was my first reaction. I don't know that this necessarily helps the hobby. Maybe it'll help awaken people that are prone to being skeezed by hotel buyers, but then I'm convinced that there is a segment of society bent on screwing themselves no matter how much opportunity and information they're given to avoid doing that.
The few times I've watched Pawn Stars or American Pickers, there have been things that I've thought were cool that I don't collect. There may be people like that watching this show that get that same feeling and decide to pursue the coolness further than their TV. They won't be the ones with dollar signs in their eyes, either.
So who is going to be the first forum member to show up on the show as a member of the public? Bonus points if you can get on camera with a mustard stain somewhere.
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<< <i>In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch. >>
Do you really think so? I don't know? When the " public " finds out how much these coins, they been placing in their glass jars to cash in later,are actually worth more than just face value. They will finally know what the coin dealer doesn't want them to know! Esp. say someone just turned their grandma's old wheaties/mercs,etc. in to a coin shop and realize they just gave them a 1909s VDB to a person that didn't get what the coin was actually worth! >>
If anything the public will begin to think every single coin they have in a jar or drawer is worth big money, from circulated bicentennial quarters to worn wheat cents. Then when a dealer tells them the (true) bad news they will instinctively make accusations that are unjustified and libelous. When the public calls you up with a collection they found and want to sell, the vast majority of those coins are worth face value or metal value. Anything worth a decent premium is very, very seldom.
Collectors think widows walk in with gem Bust Dollars to sell for pennies on the dollar on a daily basis. Yeah right.
Any time a coin story makes the news the result is a rash of calls from the public thinking they are set for retirement. A show like this will compound that. >>
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<< <i>In all honesty, a reality show focused on coin dealers and collectors will have far less appeal to the mainstream viewing public than those existing pawn shop/ treasure hunting shows. It will be very difficult for the program to keep things interesting enough for non coin people to want to watch. >>
Do you really think so? I don't know? When the " public " finds out how much these coins, they been placing in their glass jars to cash in later,are actually worth more than just face value. They will finally know what the coin dealer doesn't want them to know! Esp. say someone just turned their grandma's old wheaties/mercs,etc. in to a coin shop and realize they just gave them a 1909s VDB to a person that didn't get what the coin was actually worth! >>
If anything the public will begin to think every single coin they have in a jar or drawer is worth big money, from circulated bicentennial quarters to worn wheat cents. Then when a dealer tells them the (true) bad news they will instinctively make accusations that are unjustified and libelous. When the public calls you up with a collection they found and want to sell, the vast majority of those coins are worth face value or metal value. Anything worth a decent premium is very, very seldom.
Collectors think widows walk in with gem Bust Dollars to sell for pennies on the dollar on a daily basis. Yeah right.
Any time a coin story makes the news the result is a rash of calls from the public thinking they are set for retirement. A show like this will compound that. >>
That was pretty much what I was thinking. A lot of people I deal with who have found or inherited old coins think they must be really valuable since they're old. When I break the news over the phone and try to explain that their buffalo nickel is probably worth less than fifty cents they sometimes get angry and hang up or have some choice words for me because they don't believe it. At least when they are actually face to face with me in the office I can pull out my bags or boxes or buckets of common old coins and show them an example similar to theirs and tell them what I would sell it to them for if they are interested in buying.
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They've been around for a long time and they can be considered decent sized players. I can't say I know Mal that well but I know and like Shelly Rodriguez.
Interesting responses to my previous statements. Collectors seem to be slightly taken aback while dealers agree with me. This is totally what I expected.
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What Andy said and add that Mal Varner probably is in the top 1% of all dealers in broad based experience. Probably got his start when I was in elementary school, and I am 51. He could tell stories (true) that would make your hair stand up. Not a household name because he obviously chooses not to be in the limelight, (well, I guess until now) but well known to those who deal on a national level.
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Malcolm is good people, very busy and all kinds of gold, silver and high end coinage. Nice antiques and jewelry too.
I have been there to many times to count and he's easy to deal with.......when you can catch him
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I have always had good experiences dealing with them. I have never really dealt with Malcolm, pretty much every time I have been in the store, Malcolm's brother Jay has been there. I used to try and go in once a week, but haven't been in a while. It will be interesting and I'm looking forward to watching. They don't have anything on ebay right now either, but here's a link to their "me" page.
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