Here is a new one... Guess the grade being played in Ebay auction

artistlost · July 11, 2012 6:12AM

Auction Link

No grade and the seller says that they will not tell the grade.

Bet it's a PSA 5.

mathew

bobbyw8469 · July 11, 2012 6:17AM

What a weird auction....

Time4aGansett · July 11, 2012 6:19AM

Not sure why seller is selling card this way, and there is a reserve too.
If card didn't grade properly, why not resubmit?
5 would be my guess too.

bking · July 11, 2012 6:21AM

Tells me the card is undergraded in the seller's opinion. He wants to sell it based on the appearance only rather than resubbing - which he probably has more than once already.

galaxy27 · July 11, 2012 6:25AM

Translation: I'm extremely pissed about the grade(s) I have received, and this is my dysfunctional way of sharing my displeasure

bobbyw8469 · July 11, 2012 6:26AM

I am betting that it isn't a number grade. It is probably "AUTHENTIC". I don't like the upper right corner bat-wing....

itzagoner · July 11, 2012 6:27AM

anyone who includes the name god in their ID should be able to change the damn grade on their own.

digicat · July 11, 2012 6:34AM

He bought this card recently. Centering looks similar.

link to card

ClockworkAngel · July 11, 2012 6:35AM

<< Translation: I'm extremely pissed about the grade(s) I have received, and this is my dysfunctional way of sharing my displeasure >>

HAHA..yup

Kind of an interesting concept. Gives me an idea.

STEP 1: Sell an auction exactly like this. Keep them guessing. Then reveal it to be a PSA 10. (Cheap card, like my PSA 10 Dwight Gooden Rookie) Assuming everyone bid as if it's a PSA 7 or 8, the winner is shocked and excited

STEP 2: Sell all my low grade PSA cards the same way. Include in the description the link to my 1st auction showing that I am straight up and good for PSA 10's

STEP 3: Everyone bids hoping for a 10. Reveal the 6's and 7's. I win.

ClockworkAngel · July 11, 2012 6:37AM

<< He bought this card recently. Centering looks similar.

link to card >>

No way, that's too easy. That's what he WANTS us to think. He knows the smart ones will look up his purchase history

Bet it's a 5

digicat · July 11, 2012 6:49AM

<< private listing - bidders' identities protected >>

I love this use of the word "protected."

bidders ID's are "protected", as if they were in danger or something.

hammered · July 11, 2012 6:54AM

It's the same card
Not sure what the hell he's trying to do here

bking · July 11, 2012 6:57AM

<< It's the same card
Not sure what the hell he's trying to do here >>

Based on that other listing, I'm now guessing it's a protest auction. He bought the card, then was shocked at the true quality of it but couldn't get a refund.

mtcards · July 11, 2012 7:00AM

I see stains on the back......might just be the scan, but if they are actually there, I say, no higher than a 6

galaxy27 · July 11, 2012 7:03AM

<< It's the same card
Not sure what the hell he's trying to do here >>

Yup, zoom in on the white circles to the left of his head and compare the snowflakes and the pd to the southwest

bobbyw8469 · July 11, 2012 7:04AM

The chipping on the right is the same. But hiding the grade like that is bad. I am betting that people will bid '8' money, and not get an '8'. Just my two cents.

NSibian · July 11, 2012 7:06AM

Almost guarantee you he cracked it out and resubbed and got a 6 or 7. Card was purchased in mid June. More than enough time to resub.

digicat · July 11, 2012 7:07AM

He's also playing this game with a 48 Leaf Musial:

link

NSibian · July 11, 2012 7:11AM

<< He's also playing this game with a 48 Leaf Musial:

link >>

Shipping is $13.25......just nitpicking

bking · July 11, 2012 7:20AM

<< 

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<< It's the same card
Not sure what the hell he's trying to do here >>

Based on that other listing, I'm now guessing it's a protest auction. He bought the card, then was shocked at the true quality of it but couldn't get a refund. >>

+1

I can smell his Canadian sour grapes. >>

ewwwwww..........

ShootyBabitt · July 11, 2012 8:20AM

I'm surprised he didn't land his asking price on this one: 1981 Fernando

WalterSobchak · July 11, 2012 8:29AM

<< I am betting that it isn't a number grade. It is probably "AUTHENTIC". I don't like the upper right corner bat-wing.... >>

Boy, would doing THAT ever purchase the guy a one-way ticket to Negville. That's pretty much an automatic.

Also, I think it's absolutely hysterical that he put a reserve on this auction.

NSibian · July 11, 2012 9:57AM

<< I'm surprised he didn't land his asking price on this one: 1981 Fernando >>

If it was already in a PSA 10 holder, $325 would be a steal.

jmmiller777 · July 11, 2012 10:00AM

I bet it is higher than a 5, thinking more like a 7. I can't tell if it has chipping on the sides. In any case, I would never buy from a seller who does this. What's he trying to do???

ssollars · July 11, 2012 10:01AM

<< He's also playing this game with a 48 Leaf Musial:

link >>

This card is a PSA 5! (cert = 20355814)

bobbyw8469 · July 11, 2012 10:50AM

He is touting the PSA name brand in his auction titles, yet he refuses to acknowledge the PSA assigned grade. In my opinion, he should crack the card out, or lose the PSA name brand altogether. He is getting the eyes that are searching for PSA cards, yet refuses to give the PSA grade. In my opinion, that is a reportable offense, and the auction should be taken down.

duckus · July 11, 2012 11:10AM

This flat out how not to list a card and I will never bid on any cards this person ever decides to sell. Anytime there is anything suspicious in an auction I avoid it like the plague and it's not worth risk. The reality is they are pretty nice mid-grade cards that I bet would do OK at auction. Thank you artistlost for posting this.

mcolney1 · July 11, 2012 1:18PM

To play games with him couldn't you win the item and then put a SNAD claim in just to aggravate him? The description of "everything you need to know about this card is clearly revealed in the detailed images" not true because he is hiding the grade. Also, scans rarely reveal wrinkles and other defects that need indirect lighting to detect.

CW · July 11, 2012 3:03PM

^^^ I agree.

He is just asking for trouble. HA! He thinks he is in control and will not reveal the grade? Somebody could simply just win the auction, and if they're not satisfied with the price compared with the actual grade - return it. Ebay has given all the power to the buyer, and this seller is being a complete idiot by not revealing everything up front in the auction to avoid returns/hassles/irate buyers.

These auctions are like ticking timebombs for the seller.

He likely has unreasonable reserves on these cards so this may be a non-issue anyways (ie. they won't sell)....

JMDVM · July 11, 2012 3:10PM

Why would anyone bid on his cards? By the way, does anyone want to buy my car? But I can't tell you the year or model......

digicat · July 11, 2012 3:13PM

<< Why would anyone bid on his cards? By the way, does anyone want to buy my car? But I can't tell you the year or model...... >>

Or the vin number.

orioles93 · July 11, 2012 3:22PM

This is pathetic to me. he is not being honest with his buyers which is bad.

greencrow · July 11, 2012 3:24PM

I'm going to bid 50 times on the cards.

greencrow · July 11, 2012 3:32PM

I just hit the reserve, $50.00.

JasonM32 · July 11, 2012 6:10PM

It really pisses me off when I see idiotic stuff like this on Ebay. There's always somebody trying to pull something. I feel like "asking a question" just to give him crap. I won't, but I'd like to.

Albertdidit · July 11, 2012 9:41PM

Is this the twilight zone??

jay0791 · July 11, 2012 9:44PM

the seller of the sittler card is from new jersey and actually very experienced.

I doubt he would do this

1960toppsguy · July 11, 2012 9:58PM

Cards are as someone else stated above, resubmissions with disappointing results, he wants you to look them up and bid on them for what they were; not what they are currently. He probably takes self portraits and post them on facebook as well.

dtkk49a · July 11, 2012 11:09PM

Seems like blatant keyword spamming to me. Should be reported to eBay.

bking · July 11, 2012 11:16PM

<< Seems like blatant keyword spamming to me. Should be reported to eBay. >>

How so? It IS a graded card; he's just not sharing the grade. This is a just a protest auction where the seller wants everyone to bid based solely on the visible condition.

Probstein123 · July 11, 2012 11:41PM

unreal...he should just change his ebay id to PLEASE_LEAVE_ME_NEGATIVE_FEEDBACK

bobbyw8469 · July 12, 2012 12:35AM

<< This is a just a protest auction where the seller wants everyone to bid based solely on the visible condition. >>

Then he should take the word 'PSA' out of the title. People are specifically searching for PSA graded cards, and not revealing the PSA grade, yet wanting to get the PSA bids is a slimeball move. As long as he takes PSA out of the title, I have no problem with it.....

JHS5120 · July 12, 2012 12:57AM

Okay, so I bid on the Gaylord Perry card and decided the reserve was too high so I'll share the grades.

1962 Gaylord Perry Topps # 199 PSA 6 Cert. 20355798
1953 Al Arbour Parkhurst # 38 PSA 2 Cert. 20355795
1957 Gordie Howe Topps # 42 PSA 5 Cert. 20355792
1954 Doug Mohns Topps # 18 PSA 5 Cert. 20355797
1952 Ted Lindsay Parkhurst # 87 PSA 4 Cert. 20355789
1953 E.Lach/M. Richard Parkhurst #30 PSA 5 Cert. 20355796
1961 Jean Ratelle HOF ROOKIE Topps #60 PSA 8 OC Cert. 20355794
1951 Boom Boom Geoffrion Parkhurst #14 PSA 3.5 Cert. 20355793
1950 Casey Stengel HOF Bowman #217 PSA 5 MC Cert. 20355791

I don't know the others, but I would stay away.
Jason

digicat · July 12, 2012 1:06AM

So, when this guy sells a used car, does he also refuse to send the vin number or allow for personal inspections?

digicat · July 12, 2012 12:02PM

Q: Hi, why are you hiding the grade that PSA assigned to the card?
A: I graded the card to ensure it's authenticity....the grade itself is of no relevance to me whatsoever. I recently sold a 1967 McCovey PSA 9 & a book value of $240.00 for $46.00! I'm not hiding the grade....I'm choosing instead to focus the attention on the card where it belongs. enjoy

bobbyw8469 · July 12, 2012 12:08PM

<< I recently sold a 1967 McCovey PSA 9 & a book value of $240.00 for $46.00 >>

That's true...IF his card was a straight '9'. His was a 9 (OC), so it was NOT worth $240. This seller is a tool.

ShootyBabitt · July 12, 2012 12:47PM

<< Okay, so I bid on the Gaylord Perry card and decided the reserve was too high so I'll share the grades.

1962 Gaylord Perry Topps # 199 PSA 6 Cert. 20355798
1953 Al Arbour Parkhurst # 38 PSA 2 Cert. 20355795
1957 Gordie Howe Topps # 42 PSA 5 Cert. 20355792
1954 Doug Mohns Topps # 18 PSA 5 Cert. 20355797
1952 Ted Lindsay Parkhurst # 87 PSA 4 Cert. 20355789
1953 E.Lach/M. Richard Parkhurst #30 PSA 5 Cert. 20355796
1961 Jean Ratelle HOF ROOKIE Topps #60 PSA 8 OC Cert. 20355794
1951 Boom Boom Geoffrion Parkhurst #14 PSA 3.5 Cert. 20355793
1950 Casey Stengel HOF Bowman #217 PSA 5 MC Cert. 20355791

I don't know the others, but I would stay away.
Jason >>

Nice work!

orioles93 · July 12, 2012 12:50PM

<< Q: Hi, why are you hiding the grade that PSA assigned to the card?
A: I graded the card to ensure it's authenticity....the grade itself is of no relevance to me whatsoever. I recently sold a 1967 McCovey PSA 9 & a book value of $240.00 for $46.00! I'm not hiding the grade....I'm choosing instead to focus the attention on the card where it belongs. enjoy >>

I got the same exact response from him.

PeteZaria · July 12, 2012 12:56PM

Never mind.

CocoaBeachDodgers · July 12, 2012 6:44PM

One thing I think we can all agree on is no matter what his reasoning is, this is not the way to list a card and receive the maximum value. If by chance he does receive more than the card is worth, he has increased the chance of either a return or a complaint, as somebody stated earlier, Ebay will favor the buyer.

To me, this listing is quite funny!

CrazyMind2017 · July 12, 2012 8:12PM

I guess it's no longer applicable to buy the card, not the holder.

Here is a new one... Guess the grade being played in Ebay auction

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